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poorsoul
(acolyte)
06/20/04 01:11 AM
Touché new [re: anotherpoet]  

In reply to:

naíve



I applaud your effort to spell that word correctly but I think you'll find the "i" is accented with an umlaut, thus: naïve.

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Cucumber
(crash course raver)
06/20/04 02:23 AM
Re: Dub Dub Dub Dub new [re: Starlite]  

Anotherpoet is obviously no longer at the starting point of his artistic path, it is evident in the choice of words, it is also evident in the choice of imagery. He despises all forms of imitation; he glorifies all forms of originality. He is a true innovator.

Picasso, on the other hand, was not an innovator, he experimented with different techniques untill he descovered African art. Cubism was greatly inspired by the simplified, stylized forms of African sculpture. At the time, the Western world considered this aesthetically different cultural form of expression primitive. These "savage" forms and shapes were simply modified by Picasso and other contemporary artists to suit their own style needs.

Now Van Gogh was a true innovator because he was able to present a new vision triggered out by his own emotions. His brilliant colour scheme and his emotionally forceful images showed that his paintings were responses to his deep emotional reaction to visual experiences. Remember, the term Expressionism wasn't used untill the 1920's - it took people about 40 years to recognize the significance of his work.

"The time is sublime and the moon is so right"




SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/20/04 04:44 AM
Re: Dub Dub Dub Dub new [re: Cucumber]  

In reply to:

Anotherpoet is obviously no longer at the starting point of his artistic path, it is evident in the choice of words, it is also evident in the choice of imagery. He despises all forms of imitation; he glorifies all forms of originality. He is a true innovator.


But still, that would mean there is a point for an artist where s/he can declare that he cannot evolve any further... and I would very much like to believe there is always room for people to evolve and to better themselves. In art or otherwise.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
06/20/04 05:42 AM
Well I've got a girl who's good to me. new [re: Sysiyo]  

Ain't it a good thing Bowie didn't hit his artistic peek as early as another Poet, or we might be on LIZAJANE.COM at this moment bemoaning about the 40th reissue of Liza Jane and how it didn't include take 4 with the abandoned ending.

Oh dear, that's got Skellaway checking his collection now

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.



anotherpoet
(grinning soul)
06/20/04 05:53 AM
Re: Touché new [re: poorsoul]  

I'm aware of that, though I don't know how to type one. Maybe I should've written: "(sic)" to divert the wrath of pedants such as yourself.



Cucumber
(crash course raver)
06/20/04 02:56 PM
Re: Dub Dub Dub Dub new [re: Sysiyo]  

I hear ya, Sysiyo, but can you hear me?

What I'm trying to say is that anotherpoet is already there, he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone.

Goethe once said ,"Streben is Leben", as long as we live, we strive for perfection. Yet Goethe lived in a completely different world. He lived in a world where everything was stationary, artists were only allowed to use one viewpoint, the experience of speed was yet to be discovered.

Compare that to our competitive, dynamical world today and hopefully you'll begin to understand anotherpoet's statement.

"The time is sublime and the moon is so right"




SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/20/04 03:40 PM
We need more discussions like this... new [re: Cucumber]  

I understand your point... but my point is not about competing. My point is that a person cannot archieve perfection. Period.

Weather the world of a given time is stationary or moving has little to do with this fact. Hence, even though I appriciate anotherpoet's point, it's flawed from the beginning. Also, I cannot say I'd highly appriciate his poetry (discussions such as this are another thing), hence his claim that he only strives to equal his earlier work, and that all artists do so, is also flawed. From my point of view.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Starlite
(stardust savant)
06/20/04 10:27 PM
Re: Touché new [re: anotherpoet]  

Regardless, your poetry still sucks really bad. I'm glad you think it's swell, but like the song says, your roses smell like poo-poo.

Just wanted to deflate you a little, since you said in your other wanky thread that you were getting more respect.

You're not. We are just tired of arguing with your inflated head. Well, Cucumber likes you, but Cucumber's not real. In fact, you're Cucumber anyway.

(Though Cucumber might be taking the piss. I mean, I don't see how anyone, even someone like Cucu whose hobbies include lobotomy, can say that poetry about "yesteryear Mays" and rain has "original imagery.")

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

strangeDivine
(stardust savant)
06/21/04 01:53 AM
Re: Dub Dub Dub Dub new [re: anotherpoet]  

In reply to:

A true artist is always striving to equal his/her last piece; not surpass it.


That's an interesting take. But the distinction between "equalling" and "surpassing", especially, in relation to poetry, is so arbirtary as to be almost insignificant unless you're just talking about personal preference. As long as you are writing, you are progressing in some way. It's inevitable because when you write Poem B, you've gained more experiences and influences than you had when you wrote Poem A.

To equal a work would be to transcribe it verbatim. I don't knokw what surpassing would be.

Oh for God's sake, don't let that Coca Cola thing out!

anotherpoet
(grinning soul)
06/21/04 07:17 AM
Re: Touché [re: Starlite]  

Not just respect in terms of poetic appreciation. I've been addressed with more civility than I was at the beginning of the thread. I don't expect much from yourself, mind, given your probable psychological grudge.




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