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Johnny Keats
(mortal with potential)
06/22/04 02:48 AM
Jesus,like I can really be arsed to read this shit new [re: anotherpoet]  

In reply to:

The Poet replied...The Poet said


Yeah, using the third person really makes your account sound more credible.

A thing of beauty is a joy for ever

anotherpoet
(grinning soul)
06/22/04 06:59 AM
Re: Anotherpoet - beats TV any day. new [re: Sysiyo]  

I doubt it. You seem determined to have the last word, even though I had the definitive word from the outset. Well, I've thouroughly enjoyed responding to your feeble lack of an argument, and base insults. Here you are, then...Make another attempt to justify your evident stupidity on me, and I promise I won't respond*.

*Anticipates double-bluff of Sysiyo not replying, and somewhat paradoxical retort to the effect I've given up.



anotherpoet
(grinning soul)
06/22/04 07:03 AM
Re: Freedom of Speech. new [re: Starlite]  

If you read the entire thread, you'll notice Sysiyo gave me no choice other than to patronise him/her. It's certainly not intended to elevate myself, as I also mentioned: "Sysiyo said...Sysiyo replied".



anotherpoet
(grinning soul)
06/22/04 07:04 AM
Re: Freedom of Speech. new [re: Starlite]  

I understood capitalising to be writing my username in uppercase, as well, which I haven't.



anotherpoet
(grinning soul)
06/22/04 07:08 AM
Re: Freedom of Speech. new [re: Coan_teen]  

"...pretentious sack of shit" - Nice to know you're capable of playing Devil's Advocate. Your paragraphs can be turned on their head against Sysiyo, Starlite, and the rest of your clique, though you won't admit it ;>)



anotherpoet
(grinning soul)
06/22/04 07:11 AM
Re: Jesus,like I can really be arsed to read this shit new [re: Johnny Keats]  

*Yawns*

*Awaits decorum in replies to his own*

See one of the replies I've just posted for a response to your false accusation.



pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
06/22/04 07:26 AM
Re: Jesus,like I can really be arsed to read this shit new [re: anotherpoet]  

Multiple posting is also frowned on on this site

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.



anotherpoet
(grinning soul)
06/22/04 07:38 AM
Re: Jesus,like I can really be arsed to read this shit new [re: pablopicasso]  

Seemingly, logic and civility too ;>)



SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/22/04 08:53 AM
You asked for it. new [re: anotherpoet]  

By using the aforementioned quote function (that you can learn to use in the FAQ, which I strongly recommend reading), you could have squeezed those five posts into one, effectively saving badwidth as well as generally giving a more pleasant appearance of yourself.

In reply to:

I doubt it. You seem determined to have the last word, even though I had the definitive word from the outset. Well, I've thouroughly enjoyed responding to your feeble lack of an argument, and base insults. Here you are, then...Make another attempt to justify your evident stupidity on me, and I promise I won't respond*.


For starters, I am so sad our conversation bores you. I am still having quite fun. Let's see a few of your absurd claims and half-truth, that you seem to consider as 'definitive arguments':

In reply to:

I neither deemed my poetry, nor staying in touch with those who read it, nor bumping a thread to be: "revolutionary".


Yet, after I (amongst others) told you that bumping is not we approve of here, you gave the following response: "Revolutions break rules. In fact, they're against them. I've broken an exceedingly trivial one, and the sky, I'm thankful to say, hasn't fallen" Now I might not understand your revolutionary language, but to me it certainly seems you deemed the act of bumping that thread revolutionary. You also extended that revolutionarism to all acts of breaking rules. That is simply not something I as a moderator could tolerate here. This forum exists in this form we all know and love thanks to a group of rules, some of them admittedly unwritten, that keep it as civil as it is (and trust me, TW is civil compared to other places), while not slipping into a dictatorship of the moderators (again, something I've seen to happen on other boards, the worst example being the finnish Tolkien Society boards where people can be banned if the moderators think their names to do not fit the subject of the boards).

Another quote of yours, from the same Poetry And Purpose -thread: "As far as I know, others here aren't aiming to generate attention to a worthwhile, revolutionary, cause."

So... you're saying that you're not a revolutionary, but you're leading a revolution?

You come here, one of the best forums in the web (arguably), and certainly the free-est, to propagate your revolution, and you encourage the breaking of the few rules we have.

Also, a quote of yours, to justify my opinion of you as vain and selfish:

Pythonis: "why not post your poetry in the Artiste's forum?"
Anotherpoet: "I figure more people are likely to read my poetry if it's isolated from the rest."

So, if I'm reading you right (again, your use of the language is so revolutionary I find it hard to find your meaning in the midsts f it all), you were concious all the time of the existance of the Artiste forum, and the fact you should have posted these poems there. But no, you wanted a bigger audience, feeling that you're special you wanted to isolate your poetry from all the other poetry on these boards, and posted it in the wrong forum (hence also making your first breach of TW netiquette). Strikes me as vanity.

One of The Poet's initial replies to accusations of his vanity: "I'm, paradoxically, a down-to-earth person, who respects each opinion as equal, yet mine hasn't been respected here much at all."

Yet, you continuously put down any and all negative comments voiced against you, and your poetry, and continously tell us how you're perfectly satisfied with your poetry and that there is no reason for you to try to improve it. In addition, as said before, you seem to consider yourself so special you can break our rules without any repercussions.

Some other interesting things, too:

In reply to Starlite, Teh Poet said: "I'm confident in my writing, and wish to connect with as many people as possible, so as to have more chance of fulfilling my objectives. That's the reason I'm here :>)"

I find it interesting that you continously allocate to your 'objective' and 'revolution', let you do not give us any information on them. Not that I would be interested, I just find it odd you're here to gather support for some kind of a cause (and don't say you aren't, the above quote proves otherwise), yet you give us no information about this cause... excepting it's revolutionary quality.

T3H P03T, again: "If I was still at school, a critique might, indeed, be helpful, but I'm not, and I'm self-assured about my writing."

I find this statement to be most interesting. Especially the fact that you refer to 'school'. I shall skip the argument about continous evolution I presented against you on the May Day thread, and concentrate on this one word. Why make such a big number about critique and school, and the connection of those two? One can only theorise that you have recently graduated from school, and that you suffered from teachers who did not understand your poetry (for that we cannot blame them)... now that you no longer have to suffer under their despot rules, you hope to post your crap and be told we all love it. Then, when persons such as Pythonis, Persilot, Altoid, Starlite, Wraith2, ThomasJNewton6, TrappedSpirit, Schizophrenic, Poorsoul and My Highly Esteemed Self present critique, you withdraw into your shell, claiming that your poetry is perfect, and proceed to make the most atrocious of all your claims:

"Works of art aren't the product of asking people where you're going wrong. Those are works of entertainment, tailored to suit an audience, prior to an individual."

First of all, you once again generalise (like you did in our little chap about art and evolving), claiming that all works of art are done and displayed for the reasons you have done. Secondly, if what you said were true, your posting of your poems here made absolutely no sense: You apparently came here without knowing anything about these boards and their inhabitants. Hence your poetry cannot be tailored to suit this audience, as you did not know it beforehand. Additionally, even if you wrote it to entertain us, I could very few people who actually said they were entertained by your poetry: Beltene and Cucumber were the only ones voicing positive comments on the May Day thread. Hence it can easily be said that your attempt to tailor poetry to entertain your chosen audience was a huge failure.

Additionally, I consider it to be this forum's greatest strenght that there are many artistically talented people here (anothercrappoet excluded) to whom one can present one's latest works and ask for their opinions. I post my work here in order to get criticism of them, in order to better my works. That does not mean I would be unsatisfied with what I have done. Far from it, there are several pieces which I consider to be amogst the best I have ever seen. But still, even the fact that I'm satisfied with them does not make them perfect, and it does not mean there would be no room for improvement.

(Anticipates a reply from 7eh P037, with more twisting of words where she does not in fact reply anything I have said, and then proceeds to claim her infinite intellectual superiority).

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Starlite
(stardust savant)
06/22/04 12:13 PM
UPPERCASE new [re: anotherpoet]  

In reply to:

It's certainly not intended to elevate myself, as I also mentioned: "Sysiyo said...Sysiyo replied".


You MUST be an alterego, because noone else would be either so stubbornly idiotic, or unable to follow an argument.

Yes, you wrote "Sysiyo said, Sysiyo replied," but Sysiyo is his username. If you'd not intended to elevate yourself you should have written "anotherpoet said," or even "Anotherpoet said." Capitalizing your username is fine, since that's like capitalizing a given name.

Once again, "Sysiyo" is Sys' username, NOT a title he's chosen to give himself.

You, however, called yourself The Poet, capitalizing both "the" and "poet," which is NOT your username, but a title. It's the same as if Sysiyo had suddenly started calling himself The Moderator. In fact, if you'd insisted on calling yourself The Poet, then that's exactly what you should have called Sysiyo.

That would have just made you pretentious for writing in poofy third person, which is pretentious enough.

(By the way, before arguing further with me about not being pretentious, might you go to dictionary.com and check what "pretentious" means, just in case? You seemed to be unaware of the meaning of both "to capitalize" and "perfection" earlier, I just want to make sure we have no confusion here.)

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.


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