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Tin
(stardust savant)
07/31/05 03:34 PM
Re: Downsize these stoopid white men new [re: FastChanges]  

In reply to:

It seems to me though, that since you saved the world 60 years ago, you tend to forget everything that happened before.


I'd say that's a fairly accurate statement in relation to our Federal gov. Selective memory.

Personally, I do enjoy research and am constantly amazed at new information I dig up on events I'd only heard half the story on and that goes for 99.9% of my friends and family. Missionaries are one good example, in respect to California. Slaughter central.

Of course, my pals and I are the minority here in most respects, right down to something so simple as my preference of a Mac to a Windows PC. I won't even get into the last Gubernator election here and all the backpeddling those who voted him in are now doing.


It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

FastChanges
(electric tomato)
07/31/05 03:42 PM
Re: Downsize these stoopid white men new [re: Tin]  

Have you visited the Santa Barbara Mission? There I learned you were allowed to kill Indians if you had a slight suspicion that they were not Catholics. Just in case.

I'll have a small port, thank you.
Greedy, Madam! For most people one sailor would be enough.


Tin
(stardust savant)
07/31/05 04:10 PM
Re: Downsize these stoopid white men new [re: FastChanges]  

Nope, haven't been to that one. I have been to quite a few up and down the coast. Most have similar tales of the Catholic horrors of convert or die.

On a simlilar note, the city where I currently live (Northern Cal.) had the largest group of Confederate sympathizers on the west coast during the civil war. That's still very apparent today.

I also used to live in San Jose where their St. James park has the horrid memory of one of the only lynchings/hangings by an angry mob. In Gang of Four's words "Not Great Men."

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/31/05 04:55 PM
Re: Downsize these stoopid white men new [re: Tin]  

Confedrate sympathizers aren't always racists, you know.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Wraith2
(stardust savant)
07/31/05 05:15 PM
The South will rise again...eventually new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Confedrate sympathizers aren't always racists, you know.


True, true. I've always been curious as to what would've happened if the CSA had managed to stand up to the USA. It seems like, if it had collapsed under its own ineffectiveness (or, even better, was smashed by a massive slave rebellion!) quickly enough and the US didn't want to risk further interference, things might have turned out really great in the south. Of course, there also would have been the very real possibility of it degenerating into an even worse corporatocracy than what we've got going on now.

There are certainly a lot of variables to consider, though, most notably up to two world wars (likely just one, had the U.S. stayed out of the first) and the market crash.

Let's kill first the banker, with his professional demeanor
Let's televise and broadcast the raping of kings
Let our crowds be fed on tear gas and plate glass
'cause a people united is a wonderful thing


RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
07/31/05 05:16 PM
Re: Downsize these stoopid white men new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Confedrate sympathizers aren't always racists, you know.


True.

Let me get my hands
On your mammary glands


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/31/05 05:29 PM
Re: The South will rise again...eventually new [re: Wraith2]  

Whether I want to play the "what if" game or not (and today I don't), the point is that I fully support any state's secession from the union. The Declaration of Independance practically requires it.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Tin
(stardust savant)
08/01/05 01:28 AM
Re: Downsize these stoopid white men new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Confedrate sympathizers aren't always racists, you know.


And just where, exactly, did I say they were?

If you look up the definition of confederate in the dictionary you will find a negative connotation though. Conspiratorial and criminal act are words found within.

What I am referring to is the very closed-minded nature of the folks I've encountered who fit the big "c" bill.

A bit of elaboration on your comment would be nice. (Other than a state's right to secede from the union, which I have no problem with, depending on the reasons and methods.)

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
08/01/05 06:55 AM
Re: Downsize these stoopid white men new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

If you look up the definition of confederate in the dictionary you will find a negative connotation though. Conspiratorial and criminal act are words found within.


History is written by the winners, so that doesn't suprise me at all.

In reply to:

A bit of elaboration on your comment would be nice. (Other than a state's right to secede from the union, which I have no problem with, depending on the reasons and methods.)


That's really all I'm referring to. It's in our national vocabulary to equate confederate sympathizers with renecks and white supremacists and I find that unfortunate because I am not either one of those two things.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
08/05/05 04:33 PM
Just so you know... new [re: Monkeyboy]  

I'm making a pilgrimage to America for a week, starting tomorrow.

I'm almost two kilometres tall.


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