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theidiot2
(grinning soul)
06/14/06 06:31 AM
Re: Boredom Day [re: Arlequino]  

In reply to:

an outstanding strike - another to add to this tournament's collection


There has indeed been an almost unhealthy number of superb goals so far, hopefully the second round of group games throws up even more screamers.

Temperature's rising, but any idiot would know that...

Strawman
(acolyte)
06/14/06 07:22 AM
What happened to wingers who can cross a ball? [re: Arlequino]  

Steady, Chris, entertaining yeah, but not fantastic, as yet - as with previous tournaments the nations rarely show their true credentials until the 2nd & 3rd rounds of group matches - like the hosts Germany for instance conceding two goals in their opener against the mighty Costa Rica What the Germans lacked in defence in that match, England emulated within their midfield against Paraguay, but that was mainly through poor tactics & substitutions deployed by the (Italian loving game) Sven in the second half (and you don't attempt to to play keep ball by also hitting it long, Sven ) - but unlike the German back four, Englands short comings are something that can hopefully be fixed if Eriksson can remember that he's managing England & we prefer to play football the English way and it's the 4-4-2 formation incorporating quality wing play of which the likes of J. Cole & Beckham are more than capable of by possessing the skills necessary in giving the beach ball the deft touch required for killer crosses that will win this World Cup.

Have you observed how so many teams thus far seem to be unable to spread the play & provide decent crosses? With the exception of Argentina, Australia, Holland, Czech Rep & the dissappointing Brazil, every cunt is bunching it up through the middle of the park like school kids.

Before todays & the 2nd round of group matches I would say that the Czech Rep look the most impressive team thus far, alas, I've seen nothing as yet that should worry England.

Oh, & EJ, are the German cameramen autistic? Talk about wankety coverage

Laughing Poker

EJ
(byroad singer)
06/14/06 02:46 PM
It's A World Cup [re: Strawman]  

In reply to:

Oh, & EJ, are the German cameramen autistic? Talk about wankety coverage


The pictures are not produced by German television, it is all in the hands of HBS (Host Broadcasting service), a production company that belongs to Infront, the company that holds the tv rights of this World Cup. They have hired a thouroughly international team, which has only two German directors (one of them I know quite well) and those directors have all been told exactly how to film the matches in order to produce the best compromise for all tv habits around the globe. And it is the directors who tell the cameramen how and what to film.

There have been some complaints about the pictures here as well. Personally I think it is a bit boring, very neutral and not risking much - but still that's better than missing a goal by watching Beckham pick his nose.

Anyway, Germany - Poland starts in a few minutes, my prediction: 3:1 for Germany, goals by Klose (2) and Ballack.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


Arlequino
(cracked actor)
06/14/06 04:58 PM
The Lucky German [re: EJ]  

On balance of play they probably deserved it, but my God weren't they just lucky about it?

Oliver Neuville, - possibly the most immediately reliable player from the bench - having looked like a dream to an offside trap, timed one run to perfection, took advantage of some confusion amongst the Polish defence and slotted home an invaluable goal.

Had the Poles any creativity at all in midfield, and a half decent goal threat up front, the result could have been very different. But, that said, Germany played what was in front of them and got the three points. Not really a lot more you could ask for.

I still fancy any of the big teams against them though.

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay



EJ
(byroad singer)
06/14/06 05:05 PM
Germany - Poland 1:0 [re: EJ]  

Phew, that was close. Substitute Oliver Neuville scored Germany's winner in overtime converting a pass from substitute David Odonkor. Rarely have substitution's been more important. Well done, Klinsmann.

In the end I would say it was a deserved win, Germany had quite a few chances, hit the bar twice and interestingly enough didn't give the Polish a single good chance to score. Who would have thought that our defense would be the best part of the team in this match.

It was a typical World Cup fight, both teams fought with full force and quite some speed, negelecting good passing once in a while but avoided hitting simple long balls for most of the game. Not a quality match in terms of brilliance but still measuring quite highly on the intensity scale. A good tournament game.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


EuropeanCanon
(crash course raver)
06/14/06 08:19 PM
England's Glory? [re: Strawman]  

In reply to:

play football the English way and it's the 4-4-2 formation incorporating quality wing play of which the likes of J. Cole & Beckham are more than capable of by possessing the skills necessary in giving the beach ball the deft touch required for killer crosses that will win this World Cup.


Ignoring the obvious exception of Sir Alf's "wingless wonders" and their glorious success 40 years ago, I think you make a very valid point.

Beckham's not a natural winger in the traditional sense, but I'd like to see him offer more width to the team by curbing his natural inclination to drift inside. I'd also like Beckham to stop dropping too deep to take a short pass off Neville, Carragher or whoever before hitting a long ball down the middle; rather use his obvious quality of delivery in the final third.

On the other flank Joe Cole has, unlike Becks, the ability to go round the outside and beat a player and it's important that he does so and provide a quota of crosses for Crouch to potentially use his obvious height advantage (even though he's not particularly great in the air).

By employing more conventional width, this would provide balance and better shape to the team and a dangerous source of attacking options: the ball delivered in the box with forwards attacking both near and front posts, the cutback to Stevie G or Lampard lurking ominously on the edge of the penalty area and (in the case of Cole) ignoring the outside and using the option, like many great wingers, of cutting inside and running at defenders.

I think we all get that feeling “what can I do to help the human race” then you probably like me say fuck it theirs something on the TV - JamieSim

EJ
(byroad singer)
06/16/06 07:36 AM
Wonderful Fans [re: EuropeanCanon]  

I was at the Olympic Stadium here in Berlin last night and watched Sweden - Paraguay. And may I just say that the Swedish are the best fans I have ever come across in any football ground? No loudmouthed lager louts with bald heads, fat bellies and ridiculous tattoos but extremely pleasant, positive and joyful people, who gave a fantastic extra spirit to the game. And neither of them came close to anything violent or negative, and it's not that they woulndn't drink, they are just not like like that. Great. And for whatever reason they all looked physically fit, not a single beergut hanging out anywhere. And the Swedish women ... well, enough praise is done.

Berlin was completely flooded with Swedish people yesterday and I suppose there were more of them here than in Stockholm at the same time. Great guests.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


Arlequino
(cracked actor)
06/16/06 07:47 AM
Fan-o-rama [re: EJ]  

It'll be a fun one when the Swedes and English meet in the next match. Two superb and utterly vocal sets of fans travelling en-masse. Moreover, I'd expect to see a few T&Ts supporting England in that match - an English victory, and the islands still have a chance of reaching the second round.

Of course, England will have to raise their performance by a huge number of notches if they wish to progress much beyond the second round. Paul Robinson looked, along with Michael Owen, a complete liability. Peter Crouch looked to have had the confidence sapped out of him, until his goal. Frank Lampard was making the runs, but was horribly wasteful in possession and with his shooting. Some praise to Sven, though, who finally threw caution to the wind and threw on his three most testing substitutes. And Aaron Lennon looked a real threat every time he was given the ball.

Thankfully, the Sweden game is now open to some experimentation. And damn, but it's needed.

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay



Dara
(acolyte)
06/16/06 07:55 AM
Engerland: overhyped, undersexed and over there [re: Strawman]  

In reply to:

Englands short comings are something that can hopefully be fixed if Eriksson can remember that he's managing England & we prefer to play football the English way


I think Eriksson's in a bit of a bind really. It's been obvious for decades that the English way of football isn't going to win you anything. The others have figured out how to play against it. So Sven probably thinks that with the top Premship sides playing a more continental style of game, he could get the English team playing proper football. But not enough of them play for top Premship sides, and those that do tend to be their club's weakest links. So you've got a kind of worst of both worlds scenario at the moment. They can't play real football, and they lack the fighting spirit, organisation and never say die spirit that English sides have traditionally used to help compensate for their lack of ability.

In reply to:

I've seen nothing as yet that should worry England.


I have. England.

The teams that play proper football, the South Americans and southern Europeans, must have been laughing their heads off at England's inept display against Port Vale yesterday.

Adam:

In reply to:

I take it the Brazil victory is pretty OK for the Aussies (presuming two teams of each group make it to the next round).


Yes. Or in the case of that group, Brazil plus one. The Aussies are effectively competing against the other two teams, so any points garnered by those two against Brazil would be bad news for the socceroos.

Slan libh,

Dara

"I could count my friends on one hand, but I'd look like I was giving an invisible friend a hand job." - Shelle

EJ
(byroad singer)
06/16/06 09:23 AM
Experiments are for those who can afford them [re: Arlequino]  

In reply to:

Thankfully, the Sweden game is now open to some experimentation.


I wouldn't bet on that. Depending on the outcome of the Germany-Ecuador match England may well want to win the group in order to avoid Germany in the next round, if the Germans win their group. Not that I necessarily think that the surprisingly strong Ecuador is the easier opponent for England but the psychological factor in a match with Germany may not be welcome at a time when England is still struggling for their form.

And also because England has not won the pace and the confidence yet which is needed to go far in a tournament experimenting would be a bad idea - they need a win, a strong one at best, to lift themselves up to the level they want to be on.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow



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