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Arlequino
(cracked actor)
06/10/06 01:04 PM
German-tinted glasses [re: EJ]  

Much as it pains me to say it, I'd rather have to agree with billy against EJ here...I really thought that, even in that terrible second half, Gerrard was absolutely magnificent. It's been amazingly difficult to persuade him to keep a defensive role when he and Lampard have taken the central midfield births, but today he performed it like a natural. The booking was petulance, but petulance on the part of the ref rather than the player. Other than that, and a slight inability to clear the ball early in the second half, he looked a class act. And breaking forward, he showed there's definite potential for a good partnership with Lampard there. Whether that's something that gets undone by a team of real quality remains to be seen.

Also, for my money, Joe Cole was the best player on the pitch. Dangerous with his running, decisive with his trickery and a genuine threat cutting inside, he looked England's most threatening player by a good distance. When moved inside he became slightly marginalised, but that's square pegs and round holes for you.

I'm not quite sure where b_ managed to find out that Paul Robinson was a world class 'keeper from though. Some wayward, and occassionally hopeless kicking - normally such a strength - and no real saves of note came under the 'solid' rather than 'spectacular' heading for me. Nevertheless, following his slightly suspect pushing out of a Paraguayan cross midway through the second half, he rushed out well and to good effect.

Still to see a convincing performance from any complete team as yet, though. Nice to see Trinidad & Tobago holding the Swedes as of this moment, though! Any money on them bring 'this year's Greece/Senegal/South Korea'? None at all? Thought not.

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay



EJ
(byroad singer)
06/10/06 01:19 PM
Same Old Story [re: Arlequino]  

In reply to:

Much as it pains me to say it, I'd rather have to agree with billy against EJ here...


That's why the English never win tournaments. You put scarce positive bits above the obvious failure.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


CharlieManson
(kook)
06/10/06 01:27 PM
Re: Same Old Story [re: EJ]  

They call it the Dunkirk spirit. I bet you wish they had given up then too?


I'll slash them cold, I'll kill them dead
I'll break them gooks, I'll crack their heads
I'll slice them till they're running red
But now I've got the running gun blues


EJ
(byroad singer)
06/11/06 07:22 AM
Top Match new [re: Arlequino]  

Now that's what I call football! Argentina vs. Ivory Coast showed what it really takes to be a top team in this World Cup and made every other team that has played so far look 2nd rate. At best. High speed, finest skills and in the case of Argentina deadly scoring and magnificent tactical control. Two fantastic teams with the Ivories lacking the coolness and the experience to steal a point or even more from Argentina, who won this game due too absolute sharpness when it mattered the most. And it was impressive to see how the Argies stepped up the pace immediately after they had conceeded the goal and took over full control within seconds after the mishap. Impressive. A league on their own so far.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


b_mardle
(crash course raver)
06/11/06 08:43 AM
Re: German-tinted glasses new [re: Arlequino]  

For you and ej both: I didnīt mean that the yesterdays game turned him into a world-class player, what i meant was that it finally came to me yesterday that he is an great goalie... Disagree?? I know ej will anyway.

But it's still unfashionable
To believe in principles

b_mardle
(crash course raver)
06/11/06 08:48 AM
Re: Too Much Beer And Sun? new [re: EJ]  

In reply to:

Excuse me? Are we talking about the same match here?


I donīt think so

In reply to:

there was enough danger for England to not win or even lose the game.


Basically the game was finished after 4 minutes. Itīs true that after the break england kind of gave up, but still managed to create the most dangerous situations in the field. From where iīm standing, that was a easy victory. And it was far more conviencing one then yourīs against costa rica!!

In reply to:

Things can only get better.


One game, one win, no goals concieved, and you make it sound like we just hit the rock-bottom!


But it's still unfashionable
To believe in principles

Arlequino
(cracked actor)
06/11/06 10:02 AM
Re: Top Match [re: EJ]  

Aye, the Argentina - Ivory Coast match was just fantastic. What was most impressive was seeing two teams willing to go out and attack through the entire 90 minutes. And, finally, in Henri Michel, a coach who understands the value of a good substitute! Between he and Leo Beenhakker - what a result for the smallest ever World Cup nation, by the way - we've seen coaches who ooze positivity and attacking intent. Moreover, both have shown an ability to adapt to situations and wrest the impetus in a match. Fantastic.

I have to say that, in spite of the skill of the Argentines, there do seem to be weaknesses in the team. When defending, they're really restricted to 7 men, with Crespo, Saviola and Riquelme seeming to have absolutely no interest in tracking back or performing defensive duties. Also, while Cambiasso and Maschareno look an admirable shield in front of the very impressive Roberto Ayala, Heinze looked hugely short of match fitness and sharpness, and both full backs look questionable in defensive roles. They'll score goals, but with the shorn wings that their diamond/christmas tree formation creates, and a pair of offensive full backs, a team with genuine wingers could find them wanting at the back. Certainly the Ivory Coast looked dangerous on the flanks, whether it be from wide midfield, uncheck defence or drifting strikers.

Teams will rightly fear Argentina, and any team that has players of the quality of Lionel Messi to return, and can afford to leave Carlos Tevez and Pablo Aimar on the bench deserves respect. But force the issue against them, push them hard and bypass the defensive wall of Maschareno/Cambiasso, and there's the potential for goals there. Certainly, particularly given the marauding nature of their first half performance against Serbia & Montenegro, Holland's wide attack and drifting talents of Robben and van Persie look capable to causing damage.

Best match of the tournament thus far though.

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay



EJ
(byroad singer)
06/11/06 11:16 AM
Top Group [re: Arlequino]  

Holland beat the Serbs 1:0. Not a thouroughly exciting match but still a decent performance by the Dutch. Especially Robben was strong, dangerous and self-confident, not only when he scored the winner. The Serbs were a little disappointing. While fairly organised in defence they lacked creativity in attack and played way too many long balls.

All in all this group so far has confirmed its reputation as being the toughest of the tournament, though in the end the two favourites have done the job. But of course it is far from being over yet.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


NoGame
(acolyte)
06/11/06 01:52 PM
One down... [re: EJ]  

Holland scored their first three points alright. But I fear teams that really know just how bad our current defence is. The guys in the back are too inexperienced and lacking confidence. Van Basten better bring Boularouzh from the beginning against Ivory Coast. Our current number 4 Joris Mathijssen is not good enough to do this. Anyway, Holland does have a couple of deadly strikers and that may be just enough to surprise a few people. If they manage to get the defence organised, than I see potential.

Positive side of the Holland match was the fact that with ugly play the Dutch got their win. Slowly but surely Marco van Basten is introducing a thinking that says it's better to win ugly than to lose with beauty, as the Dutch are famed for. Van Basten knows how to play effective, he learned it all back in the day when he was the succesful striker of AC Milan.

NoGame
I see your thing alright.

EJ
(byroad singer)
06/11/06 02:17 PM
There have been worse [re: NoGame]  

In reply to:

Positive side of the Holland match was the fact that with ugly play the Dutch got their win.


Hey, Tom, the Dutch weren't that bad. Seems like you are a little spoiled by Dutch total football.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow



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