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bunniepaw
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02/23/02 01:46 PM
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are bowie fans gay? new [re: TheCrackedActor]  

Well, while were on the subject.... I love bowie and I am a straight female.. however i do think women are incredibly attractive, in many cases more attractive thant males. And when i ask people if they like bowie the males tend to be oversensitive and become rude. I know one male who admits to enjoying bowies music and he is a wee bit flamboyant and odd.. but for the most part hes straight. But it cuts both ways. I love Ani Difranco and when I ask people if they like here nine times out of ten both male and females reaction includes the words/phrase 'shes a dyke' 'shes a lesbian' 'shes an angry lesbo' and unless i find a true blue fan the answer is always that they greatly dislike her. my college roommate infact hates both bowie and ani based on their views and sexual preference. I think they are both talented beyond words and F'kn hot! no wonder they attract the other sex.



Coan_teen
(electric tomato)
02/23/02 01:56 PM
Am I Gay? Someone Enlighten Me. new [re: -ANON-]  

There are certain people in my life who insist that you don't know that you're gay unless you've "experimented." No disrespect to these folks, I love them dearly, but if that's true, how do I know I'm straight? Maybe I don't! I mean, so many people think I'm a lesbian, perhaps it's true. Cathy and I are awful friendly and everyone thinks she is a lesbian. Are we lesbians together?

Or am I just a gay man trapped in the body of a teenage girl?

C_t

You're a hypocrite/You got my body dancin' tangos/In three four time/

abe11825
(wild eyed peoploid)
02/23/02 03:47 PM
Is bowie gay? new [re: beckie]  

Ok. I am tired of everyone's "Is Bowie Gay?" shit. A friends of mine just asked if he was, and I had to tell her he is happily married to Iman. First she asked if he was married. I said "Yes, to Iman." second Q: "I thought he was gay." I said he was in the 70s to 1980, where he experiments with both sexes, BUT he was a declared bisexual.

I wanna know, wtf is up with these people? Yes, he was "gay", but no, he is not screwing around now with some bloke in the woods. I am sorry if i offend anyone. I just wanted to vent this out, and i thought this would be a good thread to do so.

Sorry again!!!

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AfterEight
(absolute beginner )
02/23/02 03:48 PM
Re: are bowie fans gay? new [re: -ANON-]  

these people must think zz top fans are santa claus fans too...no? the same moustache but not the same bike...



a lad insane47
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02/23/02 04:37 PM
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Re: gay/bi/straight Bowie fans new [re: -ANON-]  

well your little post made me think. you were one the posts i've read so far that brought up gender. that got me thinking, how do you bowie fans think of alterinitive genders? i personally indentify as male/female/trans/andro/none of the above (yes it is confusing i know).



FUZZ45
(mortal with potential)
02/23/02 08:27 PM
Re: are bowie fans gay? new [re: -ANON-]  

I suspect that as in the whole population- 11% to 14% of the population is gay- as is the percentage of any population or audience of any band




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th0mas
(wild eyed peoploid)
02/23/02 08:42 PM
Re: are bowie fans gay? new [re: FUZZ45]  

hmm... i dont think there are that many gay EMINEM fans.

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AdamModerator
(crash course raver)
02/23/02 10:07 PM
Re: Devil's Love new [re: twister]  

In reply to:

As for cover-art, the only thing that comes to mind is The Man Who Sold The World, and perhaps Hunky Dory.


Add the artwork of Aladdin Sane and Diamond Dogs, not to mention the transvestite imagery of Ziggy Stardust. His image around the time of Diamond Dogs was very gay, large girly earing, makeup, and clothing. Add the bracelets and makeup which continued into the Thin White Duke era. The 1979 video for Boys Keep Swinging, Bowie in 3 different types of drag singing "when you're a boy, other boys check you out", the 1996 video for Hallo Spaceboy, Bowie in stiletto heels, long dangly diamond earing singing "do you like boys or girls, it's confusing these days". In a woman's dress singing "he showed me the leather belt round his hips" and speaking of "The Church of Man-Love". An effiminate character singing "If you want it boys, get it here thing". "Now Jimmy looks sweet cause he dresses like a Queen.....oh yes we can love". "He was really quite paradise". The 1979 Saturday Night Live performance singing in a woman's skirt. Videos as late as 1984's "Loving the Alien" with Bowie heavily doused in lipstick and makeup. An effiminate man wearing a pierrot costume singing "they came down hard on the faggots, they took away our clothes and things". And of course, Bowie's most famous stage gesture of all time - implying fellatio to Mick Ronson.

That's just off the top of my head, and most of it is from his classic, renowned period. Sure you can squabble over individual points and interpretations, but John, don't get me wrong, you started building an argument which says it "is only there if you are pre-disposed to find it". Frankly, you'd have to be extraordinarily dumb not to consider at least some of it as gender bending, especially in a more conservative American setting where these types of gestures are much more foreign to the rock scene. And as I said before, it is highly unlikely a homophobe would miss it or be able to rationalise in spite of their prejudice.

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WildWind
(stardust savant)
02/23/02 11:51 PM
Closed doors new [re: twister]  

In reply to:

Ah, but WildWind of fifteen months ago, surely you can see how many people can consider themselves a "fan" and not give a shit about Bowie's personal life and/or accomplishments? Just like U2 can harp on about their political convictions and their desire to "drop the debt", and other things I find thoroughly bland and boring, yet this wouldn't alter my ability to be a fan of their music (assuming I considered one).

After all. It's all, or at least it should be all, about the music.


Well, Adam has pretty much covered all the bases, but I'd like to add one more thing.

Homophobes are by their very nature judgmental of people's personal lives. Keep in mind that these are people who think that a person is less of a boss/co-worker/grocery clerk/human being because of what s/he does behind closed doors.

I don't think a rock star would be any different for them - the rock stars they love would be firmly grounded in their machismo or femininity, and probably prejudiced as well.

That's not to say that there can't be a song or two that they might like, assuming that they're ignorant of details of the artist. But once they find out a bit more, they'd run, and they certainly couldn't be fans to the extent that we are, where they'd go out of their way to post on a message board devoted to the man. They would inevitably have to face threads like these, after all, which would be far too disconcerting for them.

WW

You may not like the things we do
Only idiots ignore the truth.
It's easy to lie down and hide
Where's the warrior without his pride?


twister
(stardust savant)
02/24/02 01:39 AM
M & M (He'll Melt In Your Mouth, Not In Your Hand) new [re: Adam]  

In reply to:

[th0mas] i dont think there are that many gay EMINEM fans.


I'll bet you there are. To say there aren't many gay Eminem fans is akin to saying that all Eminem's fans are homophobic, which is, of course, ridiculous. Eminem's lyrics are often anti-gay, yes - or to be more precise more making a mockery of gay than flat out hatred, but this only means Eminem will lose the fandom of those incapable of taking anything as something other than completely literally. I, for one, do not believe he has raped his mother, or comes equipped with a "go-go-gadget dick" either.

In reply to:

[Adam] Add the artwork of Aladdin Sane and Diamond Dogs, not to mention the transvestite imagery of Ziggy Stardust. His image around the time of Diamond Dogs was very gay, large girly earing, makeup, and clothing. Add the bracelets and makeup which continued into the Thin White Duke era. The 1979 video for Boys Keep Swinging, Bowie in 3 different types of drag singing "when you're a boy, other boys check you out", the 1996 video for Hallo Spaceboy, Bowie in stiletto heels, long dangly diamond earing singing "do you like boys or girls, it's confusing these days". In a woman's dress singing "he showed me the leather belt round his hips" and speaking of "The Church of Man-Love". An effiminate character singing "If you want it boys, get it here thing". "Now Jimmy looks sweet cause he dresses like a Queen.....oh yes we can love". "He was really quite paradise". The 1979 Saturday Night Live performance singing in a woman's skirt. Videos as late as 1984's "Loving the Alien" with Bowie heavily doused in lipstick and makeup. An effiminate man wearing a pierrot costume singing "they came down hard on the faggots, they took away our clothes and things". And of course, Bowie's most famous stage gesture of all time - implying fellatio to Mick Ronson.


Oh. Right. That.

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