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07/13/05 01:44 PM
The Top Albums of the 00s (Half Way)  

I think we're overdue for an old fashioned album list thread in the TW tradition (twister's been away).

Of course, we've done this once before at the quarter way mark, but that was so long ago that I think those who contributed probably have fairly new lists by this time.

Keep in mind that additional commentatary adds interest and substance to your list but I'm not entirely against a straight Top 10 if you're pressed for time.

I'll be nice and let someone else go first this time.

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(stardust savant)
07/13/05 02:26 PM
Re: The Top Albums of the 00s (Half Way) new [re: Adam]  

I'm gonna do a top 5, because I don't really buy albums these days. Too expensive.

#1. Morrissey - You Are The Quarry (2004).
Not just because everybody here hates him (except Diamond Dave), but because this is the best album of the so called 00's.

#2. J Mascis + The Fog - More Light (2000)
#3. J Mascis + The Fog - Free So Free (2002)
J Mascis has a dog. I have a dog. We both have dogs. J talks about his dog in every interview. I talk about my dog in every post I make. I'm gonna see J live in August, when the reunited Dinosaur Jr plays in Stockholm. I'm positive we will bond.

#4. Iggy Pop - Skull Ring (2003)
As commercial as Iggy can get. Every track is super commercial, in a good way. It was like he was saying, "MTV, here I come!" Only MTV didn't want him to come. Nevertheless, it sold well.

Some of my other favourite artists also released some great things, but I'm gonna put my own collaboration album with Sysiyo at #5, even though it's far from finished.

GFried: What aspect of your personallity do you think makes you post at a David Bowie message board?
Dara: For me it's pretty much an interest in David Bowie.

07/13/05 02:34 PM
Re: The Top Albums of the 00s (Half Way) new [re: eraserhead]  

In reply to:

Not just because everybody here hates him (except Diamond Dave

I'll take that as an offence mister!

If I would bother to write a list it would have Morrissey's You are The Quarry on top, closely followed by Ian Hunter's Rant and too much Finnish material that you'd bother to read it.
Oh and I might throw Musicology somewhere in there...

A friend in need is a tubgirl indeed

(cracked actor)
07/13/05 02:45 PM
Re: The Top Albums of the 00s (Half Way) new [re: Adam]  

Aw hell...I'm struggling to remember what was released this year, let alone over the last five. This list is probably missing some of the best and most important pieces from the last five years, and the order is by no means solid. But, for now:

10. Razorlight - Up All Night

Give it a year and this, Razorlight's 2004 debut album, may have climbed further into my top ten. Or it may have dropped out altogether. Either way, at the moment, it rocks. Sounding rawer and more stripped down than most of the rest of the current indie movement, Johnny Borrell easily makes up for occassional blips in the songwriting with overpowering charisma and an obvious ear for a good pop tune.
Highlight: Somewhere Else may have been an addition on the 2005 rerelease, but it's the best thing on here by a mile.

9. Divine Comedy - Absent Friends

Thank God Regeneration was only a brief indulgence for the incomparable Neil Hannon. On Absent Friends, the Divine Comedy go quickly back from whence they came - writing hugely melodramatic, gorgeously instrumentalised and textured ballads with just the right amount of tongue-in-cheek humour and knowing cultural references. Never too serious, only occassionally too silly, this is the real return to form. Recalls a more grown up version of Promenade; which, coming around a decade after should really be expected.
Highlight: Our Mutual Friend. Remember how good Frog Princess sounded the first time? This is it, in repeat listening.

8. Franz Ferdinand - Franz Ferdinand

In 2003, all pop-rock seemed to be going the Coldplay route. Piano-driven, with just the right - or wrong - amount of gushing sentiment and vulnerability. Then came Franz Ferdinand and, without wishing to put too much of their achievements down to one song, that guitar riff. Suddenly, in pubs and student areas up and down the country, you could hear one thing: "Da-da-da-da-da-da-daa, da-da-da-da-da-da-daa, da-da-da-da-da-da-daa, d-d-d-d-d-da, TAKE ME OUT". Fuck, it was cool. And it still is. Beyond that one, obvious highlight, the eponymous debut from these young, Scottish popsters has greater depth and intelligence than many older and more experienced songsmiths. They said their aim was to make people dance. They nailed it.
Highlight: Take Me Out - need I have said?

7. As Heard On Soulwax Radio pt 2. - 2 Many DJ's

Not a single self-coined track. No massive singles. No Great airplay. No club fillers. And yet, somehow, this 2-DJ combo created probably the greatest party record since Basement Jaxx gave us Rooty. Intelligent, rocking, funny, surprising and engaging all at the same time. It kicks into life with a hidden track 4:30 minute prior to the 0:00 mark with a massively disjointed Can't Get You Out Of My Head which kicks effortlessly into the outstanding Peter Gunn (live)/Where's Your Head At mash up. Right there, it grabs your balls, and it never lets go. Exemplary dance music.
Highlight: Either the opener, or the Skee-Lo I Wish a capella bit at around 40:00. Brilliant.

6. David Bowie - Heathen

Probably some bias here, but Heathen still sounds marvellous. Grown-up in the way Reality never was and packed with enough good tunes to counter the more serious business of 'real' Bowie songs, such as the brilliant opener Sunday, or the equally epic closer, Heathen (The Rays. It isn't Bowie's best by a long shot. But it's clearly his best of the 00s.
Highlight: Heathen (The Rays) - it's the way you'd want a 50-year-old Bowie to sound.

5. Martin Grech - Open Heart Zoo

If this had been Radiohead's follow-up to Kid A it would've been hailed as the unsurpassable best album of the 00s. As it happens, an 18-year old A-Level student brought it out and, with his curious falsetto and counter-tenor vocal stylings juxtaposed against heavy-then light-then heavy accompaniments, it really was a joy. Over-reaching, and lacking in tunes it may have been, but for pure musicality, vision and effect it's pretty unmatchable. And it isn't diminished at all by repeat listenings. Superb.
Highlight: Penicillin - sounding as much like Radiohead as Grech ever does, he pulls off a song Yorke and co. would've been proud of.

4. Radiohead - Hail To The Thief

From disciple to master, though. It's difficult to predict where Radiohead are going to go these days. In 2000, it would probably have been safe to say they were going to stick in the Ok Computer mould. But along came Kid A instead, and suddenly Radiohead could've been heading anywhere. Continuing in the Kid A trend with Amnesiac, it would then have seemed sensible to bet on Radiohead going further down the experimental path. Instead, they released the record that sounded like it was written to bridge the gap between Ok Computer and Kid A. Equal parts quiet introversion, experimentation and outright songsmanship, Hail To The Thief might just be the essential Radiohead record. There isn't a dud track, and not a single moment passes where something interesting or unexpected isn't heard in either Yorke's delivery or the band's playing. Unique, exciting, interesting and brilliant, Hail To The Thief may not have been as much of a leap as the band had made before, but it's still an amazing record.
Highlight - Myximatosis - paranoid Radiohead mumblings in the best possible sense. Good tune to boot.

3. Outkast - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below

What do you do when hip-hop's all becoming a bit too serious? Stick on some Outkast. Forget the singles Hey Ya!, Roses, I Like The Way You Move and Ghetto Musak (actually, don't, because they're superb), and you're left with two super albums from one great heavyweight of the genre. Big Boi may have the bling-rap down to a tee, forsaking all of the cliches and contrivances which can make contemporaries irritating, and leaving you with a distilled rap the like of which is barely seen anymore, but Andre 3000 is an undisputed musical genius. Superb wordsmithery, excellent tunes, knowing humour and an unequalled ear for effect characterise his half of this double album. Big Boi's, while not quite so outstandingly magnidicent, is still a brilliant genre piece. Add in some great guest spots on each album (Kelis is predictably great) and you're left with a real, stunning musical achievement.

Put the singles back in, and it gets even better.
Highlight: Andre's She Lives In My Lap - here's how to be effortlessly cool.

2. Ute Lemper - Punishing Kiss

Take one part beautiful, dominatrix-looking German, one part ouststanding voice and two parts superb cover versions, and you get this: the most amazing female-vocals album in years. It fits it all in here: humour, seduction, death, melancholy, cruelty, loneliness and Kurt Weill. What more could you want in an album? Add in Neil Hannon/Joby Talbot at the top of their respective games, and the fact that this album came as a complete surprise, and you're left with one of the masterpieces of the decade thus far. It's underrated, and you probably won't have heard it. But by God, you should have by now.
Highlight: Nick Cave's Little Water Song. So beautiful, so sad and oh-so-well delivered.

1. - Tom Waits - Alice

Released at the same time as Blood Money, but almost entirely consisting of music previously used for a Germans tage production, Alice is about as inspired as modern music making gets. Jazzy, minimalist, nonsensical, melodic and utterly, utterly bemusing, this is quintessential Waits. His unmistakable growl fits the music and lyrics perfectly, and the dark, seedy mood that exists throughout the album compliments both his style and the twisted Lewis Carroll vision of Alice in Wonderland completely. Very rarely has cabaret/jazz music been so effective on so many levels and yet here, in Alice is possibly the masterpiece of the first decade of the 21st Century. Amazing, unrelenting, beautiful and jagged. This is music at its best.
Highlight: The title track. Just amazing.


I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay

(cracked actor)
07/13/05 03:02 PM
Re: The Top Albums of the 00s (Half Way) new [re: Adam]  

I tend to keep my musical tastes back in the 60's/70's so I don't know very many new musicians . . . . .

Bowie - Heathen
Cooper, Alice - Dragontown
Manson, Marilyn - Holy Wood (In The Shadown Of The Valley Of Death)
Osbourne, Ozzy - Down To Earth
Waits, Tom - Alice
Waits, Tom - Blood Money
Waits, Tom - Real Gone
Zappa, Frank - Joe's Domage (does that count?)

I can't seem to think of anything else at the moment, so throw in two of these:
- Alice Cooper - Brutal Planet
- Alice Cooper - The Eyes Of
- David Bowie - Reality
- Frank Zappa - Joe's Corsage
- Frank Zappa - Halloween

Tickle My Bunny, Please

07/13/05 03:04 PM
Now it's time for a breakdown new [re: Adam]  

Since I think it'd be more fun this way, I'm not including any of the bands I listed on the first thread. Which is the only reason Radiohead isn't on here.

DM & Jemini - Ghetto Pop Life (2003)
Dangermouse's beats are uniformly excellent, Jemini's rhymes are sorely underrated, and guest spots from the Pharcyde, Cee-Lo, and the 'Liks help this become one of the most fun albums of the last five years. Key tracks: Copy Cats, What U Sittin On (Cee-Lo Remix)

Madvillain - Madvillainy (2004)
Quite possibly the best work Madlib and MF Doom have ever done with a great flow from beginning to end, making it a rare hip-hop album with no skipping necessary. Key tracks: All Caps, Raid

Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner (2003)
Grime's everywhere now, and it all starts to sound the same, but when this shit dropped, nothing could have sounded fresher. Key tracks: Stop Dat, Fix Up Look Sharp

M.I.A. - Arular (2005)
Sexy, political, dancefloorworthy, and just plain fuckin' good. Key tracks: Bingo, Galang

Jay-Z - The Black Album (2003)
Jigga! When you work with the best big-name producers (Kanye, Timbaland, etc.), you get the best big-time tracks. One couldn't have asked for a better farewell from Ya Boy. Key tracks: Dirt Off Ya Shoulders, 99 Problems

Kanye West - The College Dropout (2004)
Kaneezy steps out from behind the boards - well, after making the tracks, presumably - and proves to be an adequate if unspectacular MC. Great guests and great production and surprisingly little filler. Key tracks: School Spirit, Get 'em High

Aesop Rock - Bazooka Tooth (2003)
Darker and denser than Labor Days, here Aes fully embraces his misanthropy, leading to one of the most lyrically inscrutable (and brilliant) rap records ever. Key tracks: NY Electric, We're Famous

DJ Shadow/Cut Chemist - Product Placement (2001)
Sequel to the limitlessly brilliant Brainfreeze, in which two extraordinarily talented DJs each create a 30 minute mix using rare funk and soul 45s. In addition to being a fantastic party album, it is a testament to the art of turntablism - a true work of art. Key tracks: Both of them

Microphones - Mount Eerie (2003)
Yay indie rock! Or experimental indie rock, anyway. I think it's because I usually don't care for things like this (i.e. 17 minutes of tribal drums and unholy machine screams) that I like it so much. Key tracks: The Sun, Solar System

Four Tet - Rounds (2003)
The definitive "folktronica" artist, he moves easily from the dancefloor to your headphones. Computer music has never sounded so warm and inviting. Key tracks: My Angel Rocks Back and Forth, As Serious As Your Life

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

(stardust savant)
07/13/05 03:37 PM
Moz, PE and Gwen new [re: RabbitFighter]  

In reply to:

I'll take that as an offence mister!

Obviously, I know that you are a die-hard Morrissey fan, but I thought, for some reason, that you didn't like the new stuff. Are you sure you like the new stuff? I thought you were more like twister and Prism, in that you're crazy about the old stuff (The Smiths plus Viva Hate and perhaps Arsenal and Vauxhall) but think that Quarry is a sell-out, or at least a lesser album.

Also, I would like to make a modification to my list. I want to add Morrissey's latest release as well: the live album Live At Earls Court, which was released this year. It's simply the best live album I've ever heard, not counting all the Dinosaur Jr/J Mascis bootlegs I own/download all the time (as new ones are always being uploaded).

In reply to:

Jay-Z - The Black Album

I know that Chuck D was planning on naming a PE album "The Black Album" in the late 90s/early 00s. He was mentioning this title in his Terrordome/online journal several times. But the album was never made, or it was given another title (perhaps Revolverlution, which was released in '02). So, I'm just wondering...did Jay-Z steal this title from Chuck, or what?

Oh, and didn't you also like Gwen's new album, Marquis? Or was that irony? I know I liked it, and then I read that you liked it, and I was like, reassured, that I was right, in thinking that it was good. Or that the single was good. I never heard the album. But I liked the first single. So, why didn't Gwen make your list, Marquis? Also, doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer? Only Laura was a little more busty. Not that Laura was busty, but, a bit more.

GFried: What aspect of your personallity do you think makes you post at a David Bowie message board?
Dara: For me it's pretty much an interest in David Bowie.

(thunder ocean)
07/13/05 03:41 PM
Re: The Top Albums of the 00s (Half Way) new [re: eraserhead]  

1. Gorillaz - Demon Days

Feels a bit odd giving the top slot to an an album I don't de facto own, but Gorillaz is at least something resembling a new act. And the album is great.

Highlight: Fire Coming Out Of A Monkey's Head - The Wild-Eyed Boy From Freecloud meets the 21st century.

2. Kraftwerk - Tour de France Soundtracks

OK, I admit they are attempting to capture old glories and failing. Still, the album has it's moments. These guys can still make good music, even if it asn't groundbreaking anymore.

Highlight: Tour de France Étape 2 - The whole Tour '03 sequence is great, but this portion is particularly magnificient.

3. King Wayne - The Hidden Sword

Eraserhead delivers his best effort to date. Short and to the point. The only negative thing to point out is the artwork and I'm to blame for that.

Highlight: MacGyver Theme - Because.

4. David Bowie - Heathen

It's inconsistent. The subject has been beaten to death already, so I'll just leave it at that.

Highlight: I Would Be Your Slave - David demonstrates he can still write, and come up with something at least resembling new stuff.

5. Gorillaz - Gorillaz

The debut has it's moments. It also has it's non-moments, especially on the early part of the album, tracks that sound a little too close to the sound of Blur's 13 to warrant their place on a Gorillaz album.

Highlight: Clint Eastwood - By now probably a bit of a cliché, but my god the song rocks.

6. Fripp & Eno - The Equatorial Stars

Again, an artist (well, two) who made great stuff a few decades ago attempt to capture the magic and fail. The adventurous sound of No Pussyfooting and Evening Star is gone, replaced by a cold, over-conceptualised sound on tracks named after (you guessed it) the seven Equatorial stars. The result is basically a run-of-the-mill ambient album, something the two first Fripp/Eno albums certainly were not.

Highlight: In the name of all fairness, they all sound the same.

7. King Wayne - Turkish For Death

Partially soundtrack-work, a bit too long with inferior pieces thrown in, but also includes the first true King Wayne classics.

Highlight: Turkish For Death, too weird for it's own good but just that, good.

8. Mike OIdfield - Tubular Bells 2003

An inferior note-by-note recording of the classic (but overappriciated) original. A lot of the spirit of the original is lost with the use of modern technology in the recording process, resulting in a lifeless ghost of the vibrant original. Where Oldfield strayed from the original mix, the changes are for the worse.

Highlight: Hmm. There isn't one.

9. Suede - A New Morning

I value this today a lot more that I valued it when it came out. The only problem is, I value Suede a lot less. It's a passable album.

10. Karl Bartos - Communication

Kraftwerk's former percussionist tries to show that he too can make music. And he can. Unfortunately his gifts as a lyricist aren't up to a scrath (maybe he should have asked Schult to help out with them?). The album gives an interesting idea of what Kraftwerk's sound might have developed into if the group had chosen a different path in the early 90's... the biggest problem is that the album also sounds like it dates from 1993, not 2003.

It's interesting to note that this album was released in 2003, and like Bowie's offering from the same year, it includes a track called Reality.

Highlight: 15 Minutes of Fame

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07/13/05 03:57 PM
Some Doubt new [re: eraserhead]  

In reply to:

So, I'm just wondering...did Jay-Z steal this title from Chuck, or what?

Well according to allmusic.com, the first Black Album was released by the Damned in 1980, so perhaps they're both ripping off Captain Sensible.

In reply to:

Oh, and didn't you also like Gwen's new album, Marquis? Or was that irony

Most assuredly irony. I loathe Gwen Stefani, nearly as much as Carson Daly and Paris Hilton. "Hollaback Girl" is good only because the Neptunes can't miss, not because her tuneless yowling carries the track.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

07/13/05 04:08 PM
I need help! [re: eraserhead]  

The thing is that I'm far too severely obsessed with Morrissey to really even notice that there might be weak albums in his catalogue. I even dig Kill Uncle and Southpaw Grammar!

A friend in need is a tubgirl indeed

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