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Arlequino
(cracked actor)
02/16/06 06:13 AM
Re: Didn't you read the subject line? Oh wait, no new [re: guiltpuppy]  

What guiltpuppy said. I'd add that the simple addition of 'You're' would make it a complete sentence. Where's wildwind when you need her?

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay



AItoid
(grinning soul)
02/16/06 08:31 AM
Re: Didn't you read the subject line? Oh wait, no new [re: guiltpuppy]  

In reply to:

"The truth" is not the subject of that sentence, it's the object. It's still an incomplete sentence.


Given that…

subject —n. 1 a matter, theme, etc. to be discussed, described, represented, etc. b (foll. by for) person, circumstance, etc., giving rise to a specified feeling, action, etc. (subject for congratulation). 2 field of study. 3 Logic & Gram. noun or its equivalent about which a sentence is predicated and with which the verb agrees. 4 any person, except a monarch, living under a government. 5 Philos. a thinking or feeling entity; the conscious mind esp. as opposed to anything external to it. b central substance of a thing as opposed to its attributes. 6 Mus. theme; leading phrase or motif. 7 person of specified tendencies (a hysterical subject). —adj. 1 (foll. by to) conditional upon (subject to your approval). 2 (foll. by to) liable or exposed to (subject to infection). 3 (often foll. by to) owing obedience to a government etc.; in subjection. —adv. (foll. by to) conditionally upon (subject to your consent, I shall go). —v. 1 (foll. by to) make liable; expose (subjected us to hours of waiting). 2 (usu. foll. by to) subdue to one's sway etc.  subjection n. [Latin subjectus placed under]

….and given that…

object —n. 1 material thing that can be seen or touched. 2 person or thing to which action or feeling is directed (object of attention). 3 thing sought or aimed at. 4 Gram. noun or its equivalent governed by an active transitive verb or by a preposition. 5 Philos. thing external to the thinking mind or subject. —v. (often foll. by to, against) 1 express opposition, disapproval, or reluctance. 2 protest.  no object not forming an important or restricting factor (money no object).  objector n. [Latin jacio ject- throw]

….and given that…

preposition n. Gram. word governing (and usu. preceding) a noun or pronoun and expressing a relation to another word, as in: ‘the man on the platform’, ‘came after dinner’, ‘went by train’.  prepositional adj. [Latin praepono -posit- place before]

….and given that…

transitive adj. (of a verb) taking a direct object (whether expressed or implied), e.g. saw in saw the donkey, saw that she was ill. [Latin: related to *transit]

…please explain in what way “The truth” is “the object” of the sentence. It doesn’t appear to be governed by a preposition, as far as I can see. Nor is it governed by an active transitive verb. So how is it “the object” of the sentence?

It certainly fits the description of "noun or its equivalent about which a sentence is predicated and with which the verb agrees". The sentence is predicated about the truth and the verb, "telling" (of the truth) would seem to agree with it. Ergo it's the subject. How is it not?



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
02/16/06 08:57 AM
Re: Didn't you read the subject line? Oh wait, no new [re: jump93]  

In reply to:

I nominate myself for most ignored brit


NO!






In reply to:

That’d be Old Uncle Tom Cobley, you clueless, most annoying, Kraut.






London Bye Ta-Ta...


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