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power2charm
(kook)
03/08/06 07:37 PM
A funny thing happened on the way to the Forum  

Recent Highlights from the "other" messageboard.....

Thread Title: Are the Gay's disappointed
[abridged]

ricko in mesquite: I was prepared all week by the experts on TV and radio that Homo on the range was going to sweep the oscars.

Keynes31: My friend who's most involved with the gay community (a very political way of saying 'My very gayest friend') thought Capote was the movie that gay men were most proud of. Brokeback was kind of a 'chick flick' to him. Ergo, a lot of gay men would be proud of Phillip Seymour's win moreso than Brokeback taking best picture.

Ricko: My very gayest friend liked Brokeback.

It's still wierd when he gets 12 roses on valentines day from a dude and dances like a girl for 30 seconds. Just wierd I tell ya.


Keynes: I'm not even going to begin to touch that one, Ricko.

Not even to point out how weird of a scene it would be to see you hanging out with a gay dude on Valentine's Day. Nope, not I'm not even going to touch it. Nope, not going to point out how odd it is that you had time to make sure it was a dozen roses. Or the fact that you remained around for 30 seconds during this display.

No sir, I am not going anywhere near that statement.


Ricko: I told you it was wierd.

TMacsOneGoodEye: Reck doesn't have gay friends. At least none that he knows about.

The fact that he equated his gay friend to dancing around for 30 seconds like a homo proves it.

Most gay men don't do that. It's just the dumbasss stereotype your ignorant hillbilly redneck ass sees.

An average gay man hates a flaming homo the same way an average black man hates a thug nigga.


Ricko: Well maybe I shouldn't have promoted that gay man to head of my marketing department or offered Keys a look at a tech job this week.

I think it was Keys that lost his job. If you can help me win send a resume no need to put your race on it. Oh yeah! I shouldn't have hired that black bastard herb to run telemarketing. Damn, wake up! I thought I was hiring and promoting qualified hard workers.

My dad taught me right and he also told me not mix it up so much (he was a quiet man) but I didn't inherit that good sense. Probably my playground basketball background; I do wish I could grow up sometimes.

Come on over for a tour of my facilities and I'll put a sock in it for you.


KentATM: Rick just b/c a gay guy you know liked it doesnt mean all gay men do. thats like saying all women are suckers for REese Witherspoon movies.

Ricko: It takes a gay man to know that, you know.

KentATM: har har. rick will be here all week folks, try not to miss his cutting edge comedy act.

TMac: Git R Done, Reck! Git R done!

***

I scored this for Ricko. He was feeling feisty today.

____
Kid, you've paid your dues...dues and dues. ~J. Tweedy

Auntie Prism
(stardust savant)
01/25/11 03:14 PM
Close your eyes and think of England new [re: power2charm]  

My latest recovery of threads left to rot in Coffee Shop's comedic tundra:

In reply to:

Brokeback was kind of a 'chick flick' to him.


Brokeback was crushingly dull and lacked even the odd witty one-liner found in most 'chick flicks'. I might just (just, mind) have been able to appreciate the cinematography everyone raved about had there been an Elgar soundtrack (Elgar, apparently, the composer of incessant trees and rolling hills), or a commentary track by Sir David Attenborough describing the wildlife or the effects of climate change.

Since this thread is a thinly veiled appeal for gay film recommendations, I'll point you in the direction of some old favourites:

My Own Private Idaho: Keanu Reeves may be as wooden as ever, but River Phoenix puts in his best performance as a narcoleptic hustler. Phoenix's charm and ιlan could only have been surpassed if K himself had taken the lead role.

Maurice – James Ivory: An adaptation of E.M Forster's novel. Hugh Grant in the years before the stutter mushroomed to Porky Pig proportions.

Blue – Derek Jarman: It's probably cruel to suggest I prefer Jarman's films without the visuals, which is why this one is something of an odd one out. Blue has a tone of introspection often missing in homoflicks.

Honourable mention: Looking for Langston.

If searching for gay films of the other sort … look no further than The Dicks of Hazzard, the heartwarming spin on the '70s family favourite The Dukes of Hazzard. Bo and Luke get up to many of the freewheelin' tricks priggishly omitted in the original, though their carelessness comes at a cost when Bo falls foul of Sheriff Rosco's truncheon.



Quills
(kook)
01/25/11 04:46 PM
Re: Close your eyes and think of England new [re: Auntie Prism]  

In reply to:

had there been an Elgar soundtrack (Elgar, apparently, the composer of incessant trees and rolling hills), or a commentary track by Sir David Attenborough describing the wildlife or the effects of climate change.



Elgar would not suit this American movie.

Aaron Copland would be better.



I went to a restaurant that serves 'breakfast at any time'. So I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance.


Remade/Remodeled
(acolyte)
01/25/11 06:56 PM
Gregg Araki made something good? new [re: Auntie Prism]  

You don't rate Mysterious Skin? It's an absolutely beautiful film and also, along with the brilliant but hetero Brick, showed us all that Joseph Gordon Levitt was more than just that kid from that shitty sitcom about aliens with John Lithgow and Newman from Seinfeld in it.

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre

ghostlove
(stardust savant)
01/25/11 10:14 PM
Re: Gregg Araki made something good? new [re: Remade/Remodeled]  

Re/re, I'm afraid that your taste in comedy is limited for not seeing the genius of 3rd Rock From the Sun . I do agree that Gordon-Levitt has done pretty well in all the films that I've seen him in, though. I actually would say that he and Justin Timberlake are among the best American actors of their generation at this time.



Remade/Remodeled
(acolyte)
01/25/11 10:48 PM
Re: Gregg Araki made something good? new [re: ghostlove]  

Justin Timberlake????

Fuck off!

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre

ziggfried
(acolyte)
01/25/11 10:55 PM
Re: Gregg Araki made something good? new [re: Remade/Remodeled]  

What, you didn't dig his high-voiced, one-note performance in The Social Network?



Remade/Remodeled
(acolyte)
01/25/11 10:58 PM
Re: Gregg Araki made something good? new [re: ziggfried]  

I haven't seen it yet, I'm just talking about his laughably bad performance in Alpha Dog.

We already have one Hayden Christiansen, we really, really don't need another.

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre

EJ
(byroad singer)
01/26/11 07:48 AM
Voiced new [re: ziggfried]  

In reply to:


What, you didn't dig his high-voiced, one-note performance in The Social Network?


I found him better than I had expected in that film. But that may be due to the fact that I saw the German version in which his voice was dubbed by a professional actor.

TW GOD OF FOOTBALL


Marquis
(wise like orangutan)
01/26/11 06:35 PM
Scobias FTW new [re: Remade/Remodeled]  

I stayed well clear of Alpha Dog, but I did see Jumper in the theaters, and I would take Timberlake in a heartbeat. He may not be Phil Hoffman, but he's charming and affable enough; Christiansen just seems bored and sullen in everything I've seen him in.

What I can't figure out is why JT felt compelled to take a voice role in Yogi Bear.

I never did get around to seeing Brokeback, which I guess makes me a homophobe, although I prefer to chalk it up to a general antipathy towards Ang Lee. I took a film theory course back in the day taught by his frequent collaborator James Schamus, which was quite good, but even then I couldn't work up the enthusiasm for a then-current Crouching Tiger to attempt any serious ass-kissing (others were more than willing to accomodate in my stead).

If you'd like to appreciate the scenery without wading through all that Gyllenhallia, I strongly recommend Sweetgrass, which I'd put firmly in my 2010 best-of-the-best list.

R/R - I see you've been swayed by the AV Club's vociferous love for Mysterious Skin. I haven't gotten around to it yet, but damned if the New Cult Canon isn't the best thing to happen to that site in the last year.

And, lastly, I will note how strange it is to see Darren Aronofsky, David O. Russell, David Fincher, and Joel Coen nominated for Best Director at the same time. A lot can happen in ten years.

I don't walk it like I talk it cause I run it

Remade/Remodeled
(acolyte)
01/26/11 09:24 PM
Re: Scobias FTW new [re: Marquis]  

In my defense, I saw Mysterious Skin before the start of the NCC but I'm certainly not going to argue with Scobias on this front. That feature is incredible though, it introduced me to Primer, the Pusher trilogy, Morvern Callar and several more.

Nabin, or NOEL BITCHASS MURPHY are fair game to argue with.

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre

power2charm
(cook)
01/26/11 11:41 PM
Frottage, Naturally new [re: Auntie Prism]  

I feel obliged to say something on my own resurrected shipwreck.

Brokeback lost me when Heath hocked a gob on his dick before putting it in. To me, that's just gross. It's the equivalent of peeing in your radiator to get your car to the station. Nothing romantic there. The latter at least provides a funny story later on.

Come to think of it, the whole topic of assisted lubrication has always bothered me. Vasoline: REALLY? Is that really necessary .... ever??? I don't even understand that product. I have NEVER purchased Vaseline and I never will. Period.

Broadly speaking, I think gay-themed movies are tough to pull off. They always end up treating the fact of being gay as some sort of unfortunate affliction. I guess I liked Milk pretty well. Far from Heaven was kind of fun - a precursor to Mad Men's gay sub-plot. Hedwig was a touching film. Definitely had to think of a naked lady to keep the tears from making trax down my rosy cheeks during the "goodbye" scene near the end.

Alright. I've contributed. How 'bout dem Steelers?!?!

____
Kid, you've paid your dues...dues and dues. ~J. Tweedy

schizophrenic
(acolyte)
01/27/11 01:08 AM
TW, I just can't quit you. new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

I never did get around to seeing Brokeback, which I guess makes me a homophobe, although I prefer to chalk it up to a general antipathy towards Ang Lee.


I second the hell out of this. I suppose I should really give Crouching Tiger a second chance now that my expectations have been lowered somewhat, but it's low on my priorities list what with this newfangled "iPad" people keep talking about, and "sex".

Also, am I a dick for mentioning Hulk? Because I seriously don't think Ang Lee should be allowed to live that down.



Auntie Prism
(stardust savant)
01/27/11 10:46 AM
Is the AV Club like Norton AV? new [re: power2charm]  

In reply to:

[R/R] [Mysterious Skin showed us that] Joseph Gordon Levitt was more than just that kid from that shitty sitcom about aliens …


… and, ironically, it was the drivel about aliens in Mysterious Skin that I found out of place. Yeah, it was a decent-ish film, but introduce aliens along side homosexuality and you automatically have the idea of tragic outsiders, or heroes of fortitude, which I think was partly what p2c was driving at. It may be done in a positive light, but it's getting fairly routine.

There's something of that in Idaho (which I mentioned above), but there's other stuff working for it.

Still, Gordon Levitt gave a good performance. Haven't seen Brick.

P2C, I'm afraid I've still no idea what this thread was meant to be about. I guess it wasn't gay movies, and now you're talking about lube? I was going to argue that lube of some kind is a necessity for most people (i.e. whose genitalia doesn't resemble a burst spacehopper); but then I recalled a story I heard last month, demonstrating that even the most unwieldy of objects can wedge themselves 'up there' with innocent intentions.

Rather than words comes the thought of high windows

Marquis
(wise like orangutan)
01/27/11 06:50 PM
THE Leonard Pierce? new [re: Remade/Remodeled]  

Perhaps I'm projecting; it would take a writeup as breathless as that one to make me consider watching an Araki film.

I'd say the best things it has exposed me to are The House of the Devil, which may be my favorite American movie of the last 5 years, and Oldboy -- or, more accurately, Park Chan-Wook, whose other movies I liked even more.

I've also had Martyrs out from Netflix for the last two weeks but haven't had the balls to brave it yet.

I feel like Rabin's started to buy into his own hype a bit too much. My Year of Flops used to be great, and now each one is a 3000 word essay, half of which is only tangentially related to the movie in question.

i'm 2 much for these niggas and 3 much for these hos

power2charm
(cook)
01/27/11 08:46 PM
Pass the douche new [re: Auntie Prism]  

In reply to:

I was going to argue that lube of some kind is a necessity for most people


I think Hollywood can certainly give gays the same generous portrayal where making love is concerned that straights receive. I don't ever recall hearing vaginal farting in a film, for instance.

And yes, this thread was supposed to be about gay themes in films and how straight audiences receive them. *bows deeply*

____
Kid, you've paid your dues...dues and dues. ~J. Tweedy

th0mas
(acolyte)
02/07/11 10:16 AM
Re: A funny thing happened on the way to the Forum new [re: power2charm]  

Does Tarnation qualify as a gay movie? While the "director" is constantly pretending it would be about his schizophrenic mother the movie shows him being a faggot most of the time, doing faggot things and being the narcistic faggot one expects of a narcist who happens to be a faggot. Maybe there is something I don't get in this movie, but I never understood why someone with Gus Van Sants expertise would produce such a pile of crap.


Among all these wolves...


Remade/Remodeled
(acolyte)
02/09/11 05:02 AM
Re: A funny thing happened on the way to the Forum new [re: th0mas]  

Tarnation is gayer than cum on a moustache.

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre

Auntie Prism
(stardust savant)
02/09/11 07:28 PM
Tango a la caprice new [re: Auntie Prism]  

In reply to:

[p2c] And yes, this thread was supposed to be about gay themes in films and how straight audiences receive them.


Ah, gotcha. But I guess the moment has passed for documenting the fevered conjectures about what exactly was at stake re. Brokeback Mountain's (non)Oscar.

Reposting to add Wong Kar-wai's Happy Together. It occurs to me that the other films I mentioned show relationships that are doomed from the start, or which never got off the ground (to reappropriate the old saying, 'I've been on fairground rides that have lasted longer than relationships in gay films...' ). Happy Together shows the lengthy deterioration of a failing, dysfunctional relationship, and depicts it in a novel, unpredictable way. Beautifully shot, slow-paced and partially in black in white, it offers the kind of serious treatment of a gay relationship that Brokeback should've executed better.

In reply to:

[R/R] the brilliant but hetero Brick



Yup, Brick (which I watched this week) is indeed brilliant. Now, if I could cross the two and find some Japanese gay neo-noir detective anime, that would be the perfect combination.

Rather than words comes the thought of high windows

Marquis
(wise like orangutan)
02/10/11 06:43 PM
Feigned Expertise new [re: Auntie Prism]  

Although to be somewhat fair to Ang Lee, "Wong Kar-wai did it better" applies to, like, everyone.

In reply to:

Japanese gay neo-noir detective anime


Satoshi Kon woulda killed this concept.

i'm 2 much for these niggas and 3 much for these hos


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