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diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/11/06 09:23 AM
In rememberance of a Nation under fire on 9/11  

Let us never forget, the day, the world changed




London Bye Ta-Ta...

PHOENIX
(funny little bunny)
09/11/06 09:34 AM
Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: diamondogz74]  

The "Planes flying into buildings" thread which played itself out as events were happening is probably lost. That's a shame.

Am I suspended in gaffa?

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/11/06 09:44 AM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: PHOENIX]  

In reply to:

The "Planes flying into buildings" thread which played itself out as events were happening is probably lost. That's a shame.


Indeed! I wasn't a member then, but I do vaguely remember the thread.

I'm hoping to see the new Oliver Stone film soon, 9/11, he was on BBC television last week talking about his new film, it is not at all a tacky sensationalization type of film ( which I feared it might be ) the story of a NYC firefighter and the tragic events that unfolded.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

th0mas
(acolyte)
09/11/06 10:03 AM
Re: In rememberance of a Nation under fire on 9/11 new [re: diamondogz74]  

It is strange to see how a nation receiving such a lot of sympathy from around the world after that event could fuck up so badly within five years. I can't see this event without a cynical view on what happened since then. It did not really change the world, it just gave the administration an option for propaganda just like the burning Reichstag did it for the NSDAP. The terrorists did not only succeed in killing 3000 people, they even made the USA give up a great part of their freedom and start two never finished wars, making it a lot easier for the Iran to get forward with their current politics.


Liest das denn keiner außer mir?

PHOENIX
(funny little bunny)
09/11/06 10:17 AM
Re: In rememberance of a Nation under fire on 9/11 new [re: th0mas]  

In reply to:

It is strange to see how a nation receiving such a lot of sympathy from around the world after that event could fuck up so badly within five years.


I don't feel sympathy for the United States of America when I think of 9/11, I feel sympathy for the people who died in one of the worst ways you can die, and the families of those who lost loved ones and know they died in this way. And the people of America, New York in particular, who were traumatised by the sudden and sensational disaster which descended on them in such an unexpected way.

A friend told me a few days ago that we shouldn't pay so much attention to this when 1000's die in other countries on an almost daily basis. But it's the shock and horror of a nation of people who live such secure lives that stands out from other forms of war.

Even if I didn't dwell on the dead, I still remember the astonishment I felt when I was told that the towers, the twin towers of the World Trade Centre, had actually collapsed! A disaster that as far as world history is concerned only marks itself on mankind's psyche like events such as the sinking of the Titanic.

America? Maybe an evil empire? Yeah. But even empires are populated by people who are definately not evil.

Am I suspended in gaffa?

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/11/06 10:30 AM
Re: In rememberance of a Nation under fire on 9/11 new [re: PHOENIX]  

In reply to:


I don't feel sympathy for the United States of America when I think of 9/11, I feel sympathy for the people who died in one of the worst ways you can die, and the families of those who lost loved ones and know they died in this way. And the people of America, New York in particular, who were traumatised by the sudden and sensational disaster which descended on them in such an unexpected way.


Well said, my sentiments entirely, all I can add, are my few thoughts...

The September 11th. attack on America is not justifiable using any real or imagined political dispute, religious belief or misguided reasoning. It was a repugnant and cowardly act of terrorism against innocuous civilians.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Sam_X
(electric tomato)
09/11/06 11:51 AM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

I'm hoping to see the new Oliver Stone film soon


And you better don't miss United 93, if you haven't seen it already. It's THE 9/11 movie.

~
Heaven is a place where
Nothing ever happens

KModerator
(thunder ocean)
09/11/06 12:14 PM
You all read this five years ago of course new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

The September 11th. attack on America is not justifiable using any real or imagined political dispute, religious belief or misguided reasoning. It was a repugnant and cowardly act of terrorism against innocuous civilians.


As were the countless attacks on innocent civilians committed directly by U.S. forces or committed by goverments sponsored by them (such as Saddam Hussein's reign), that to some degree were the reason for those "terrorist" attacks.

Like I said five years ago, I'm not saying the attacks were justified, but I'm saying that until the U.S.A. changes their foreign politics and stops meddling with the affairs of other sovereign nations, this kind of thing can - and will - happen again.

"If one of us dies, I'd be the one to inherit your money."
- Mrs. K on the legal function of marriage

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/11/06 02:39 PM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: Sam_X]  

In reply to:

And you better don't miss United 93


Yes, I have already seen it, I wasn't that impressed, felt more like a tv movie than a cinema film, lots of things not correct in the film, the film was made using 2006 technology abound, flat panel computer screens everywhere! and they were not in that much use in 2001, a minor error, but one that stuck in my mind.

The acting wasn't much cop either, script was better, using transcripts of original telephone conversations, not a well made film, I was expecting to feel moved by this, I felt nothing.

Oliver Stones film will be the one to see.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Mxy
(crash course raver)
09/11/06 02:46 PM
Re: You all read this five years ago of course new [re: K]  

Yep. Sept. 11th is also the anniversary of the CIA-sponsored coup d'etat in Chile, which started a 17 year dictatorship that resulted in 20,000 dead (that's 10 WTCs).

The only difference between 9/11 and any other terrorist attack of the same scale (including the ones perpetrated by the US itself) is that this one was fully televised. It's not the same watching the towers be hit and collapse than reading about it in the paper.

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Mxy
(crash course raver)
09/11/06 02:57 PM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

The acting wasn't much cop either, script was better, using transcripts of original telephone conversations, not a well made film, I was expecting to feel moved by this, I felt nothing.

Oliver Stones film will be the one to see.



United 93 was a chilling recreation of how it probably happened. The technology was current because, with the exception of the plane, the places and the people in them were real. The flight operators in the movie are playing themselves, for example. The actors in the plane had intimate knowledge of the lives of the people they were playing, and were allowed to improvise with that information in mind.

I guess for some people it's easier to be moved by Nicholas Cage trapped under concrete, yelling "GO! SAVE YOURSELF!" to a tear-eyed fireman who promises he'll "tell his wife" or "never forget".

"NN webcomic. No assertion of notability other than a lack of artistic value." -Wikipedia
"Not for me, but thanks." -Warren Ellis
Biarre Webcomic. Updated daily, for real!


Monkeyboy
(band intro)
09/11/06 04:09 PM
What? new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Let us never forget, the day, the world changed


This is an awfully cryptic way to celebrate Moby's birthday.



Must be an asexual thing.

"...most of us know Monkeyboy is in fact frightfully intelligent. Try to argue with Monkeyboy and you'll lose no matter what." - K

anisette
(acolyte)
09/11/06 04:20 PM
I spy with my little eye new [re: Monkeyboy]  

hmmm...this picture makes me think maybe he should be called "Mopey"???!!! Hee Heeeee!!!111!!!

and looks like the twin towers sitting right next to him! har har!!

meow


Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
09/11/06 06:32 PM
Re: In rememberance of a Nation under fire on 9/1 new [re: diamondogz74]  

I say nuke those fucking burger-gobblers! All of them! (but please keep San Francisco).

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

Remade/Remodeled
(acolyte)
09/11/06 11:34 PM
Fucking French new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

In reply to:

(but please keep San Francisco)


Fag.

Deny your culture of consumption;
This is a culture of destruction


poorsoul
(you will pay mr jones)
09/12/06 03:52 AM
Attachment
Mr Vice-President new [re: Monkeyboy]  



Out!



Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
09/12/06 04:44 AM
Re: Fucking French new [re: Remade/Remodeled]  

Nice little poem, very concise. I like it.

There is considerable overlap between the intelligence of the smartest bears and the dumbest tourists.

theidiot2
(wild eyed peoploid)
09/12/06 05:11 AM
Re: Fucking French new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

Brevity is the soul of wit.


Temperature's rising, but any idiot would know that...

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/12/06 10:02 AM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: Mxy]  

In reply to:

I guess for some people it's easier to be moved by Nicholas Cage trapped under concrete, yelling "GO! SAVE YOURSELF!" to a tear-eyed fireman who promises he'll "tell his wife" or "never forget".


Oliver Stone said he made this film devoid of politics on purpose, he fully intends to make another film with the political slant on it.

In reply to:

The technology was current because, with the exception of the plane, the places and the people in them were real.


You mean the film was done on the cheap, how nice for the relatives.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Mxy
(crash course raver)
09/12/06 04:35 PM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: diamondogz74]  

The relatives were involved in the production.

How is using the actual places and people "cheap"? It would have been easier to get generic sets and fill them with extras yelling dramatic lines. As evidenced in his film "Bloody Sunday", director Paul Greengrass is deeply committed to the truth. He did everything to ensure the film would be as realistic as a movie on this subject could possibly be.

From what I've seen of Oliver Stone's film, it looks like he's taking the easy way and making a standard Hollywood movie about "courage and heroism" (and possibly "love and friendship"). It may use a real tragedy like 9/11 as the context for its plot, but the characters themselves barely resemble human beings. I can't say I'm surprised to find that walking clichés move you more than real people, though...

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"Not for me, but thanks." -Warren Ellis
Biarre Webcomic. Updated daily, for real!


diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/13/06 09:45 AM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: Mxy]  

In reply to:

How is using the actual places and people "cheap"?


You are misinterpreting my words, the people in the film aren't cheap, the fact that it's not historically correct is cheap.

In reply to:

Paul Greengrass


I see him as exploiting these people in return for fame.

In reply to:

From what I've seen of Oliver Stone's film, it looks like he's taking the easy way and making a standard Hollywood movie about "courage and heroism" (and possibly "love and friendship"). It may use a real tragedy like 9/11 as the context for its plot, but the characters themselves barely resemble human beings. I can't say I'm surprised to find that walking clichés move you more than real people, though...


Not at all, Oliver Stone said he would definitely make a film of 9/11 with a political slant, I figured he thought using a political slant would not be nice for the relatives this soon? hence the later film he has planned.

Look what happened to Fahrenheit 9/11, it backfired on Michael Moore and let Bush win a second term.

It's too easy to create sensationalism and does nobody any favours.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

EJ
(byroad singer)
09/13/06 10:44 AM
Good Lord new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Look what happened to Fahrenheit 9/11, it backfired on Michael Moore and let Bush win a second term.


Yeah, and here in Germany it rained on the US election day - made Bush win too.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


Marquis
(wise like orangutan)
09/13/06 11:25 AM
Sound Fundamentals new [re: EJ]  

Hm, really? I'd heard that Bush's re-election was punishment for some sinful thoughts that had been running through the mind of a particularly naughty third grader in Queens, combined with a stunning mid-air butterfly collision on the beach in Rio de Janeiro, and the precipitous drop in atmospheric pressure around Tuscon, AZ on the morning of August 3rd, 1989.

I'm also pretty thoroughly amused by Dogz' contention that because he'd never seen a flat-screen computer monitor before 2003, that means Paul Greengrass is raiding the coffers of 9/11 sympathy for his own agrandizement - regardless of the fact that about .5% of people in this country would recognize his name.

Oh jujubee
What don't you want with me?
I'm a celebrity!



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/13/06 11:41 AM
Cathode ray' V' lcd/plasma new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

I'm also pretty thoroughly amused by Dogz' contention that because he'd never seen a flat-screen computer monitor before 2003, that means Paul Greengrass is raiding the coffers of 9/11 sympathy for his own agrandizement - regardless of the fact that about .5% of people in this country would recognize his name.


Of course i'd seen flat screen monitors and televisions before 2003, you know as well as I do, they were not in common use before that date, they were still reasonably expensive, as for airports incorporating this technology so soon! it's a joke, airports even to this day are mean on updating IT, i've seen cathode ray monitors in use, in airports, to this very day.

In reply to:

regardless of the fact that about .5% of people in this country would recognize his name.


What would be the percentage rate now?




London Bye Ta-Ta...

EJ
(byroad singer)
09/13/06 11:57 AM
It Was All God's Help new [re: Marquis]  

You are right Marquis, it is well known that those incidents you listed severely helped Bush winning. But still the German rain was the decisive factor - especially as Hamburg stayed dry. That did it for Kerry.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


Marquis
(wise like orangutan)
09/13/06 02:12 PM
Bigfoot's Wristwatch new [re: diamondogz74]  

So, again, just because you never saw a flat-screen monitor in an airport, *that's* your justification for the film being "cheap"?

Guess what, Dogz: contrary to their portrayal in Ben Hur, ancient Romans did not actually speak English. Doesn't this enormous anachronism - it's got to be at least 1000 yrs vs. the 2-3 yrs for United 93 - ruin the movie for you? How *cheap* those bastards were for not making Heston learn Latin!

In reply to:

What would be the percentage rate now?


.5% was my initial guess. But you want to crunch numbers? Let's see...

The film made $32 million at the box office, which at an average of $10 a ticket works out to approximately 3 million people having seen it. Let's go ahead and grant them 10 million viewers counting DVDs and television.

I'm not even going to factor in the probability that fewer than half of those people would be aware of the director's name - unless we're talking Spielberg, most people just don't care - instead granting that the number will be made up by people like myself who know the name without having seen the movie.

So we're left with ~10 million out of 200 million who know the name Paul Greengrass, or 5%.

WOW WAS I WRONG!!!

He's at least 10x more famous than I gave him credit for!

I'm sure that whopping 5% of the populace is tearing down his door even know, paparazzi breaking into his house and stealing his garbage because 5% of Americans just *have* to have their fix of Paul Greengrass news! That fucking media WHORE!!!! Everywhere you look now, it's Paul Greengrass this, and Paul Greengrass that! Can you even go to the supermarket without seeing him on the cover of every magazine, hawking his Eau du Paul cologne or his United 93 video game adaptation?

I, for one, am sick of hearing about Paul Greengrass all the time - especially when Phil Joanaou is such a bigger heartthrob!

*swoon*

Oh jujubee
What don't you want with me?
I'm a celebrity!



Mxy
(crash course raver)
09/13/06 02:35 PM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

You are misinterpreting my words, the people in the film aren't cheap, the fact that it's not historically correct is cheap.



Ah, so the people can be real, the places can be real, but if there's plasma monitors in the background the film isn't "historically correct"? Nevermind the fact that they've gone through the trouble of getting the real air traffic controllers and such to recreate what they did that day. If there's a plasma monitor in the shot, what they're doing isn't as historically accurate as Nicholas Cage playing a generic brave cop.

If the monitors shouldn't be there (forgive me for doubting your extensive knowledge of air traffic rooms and military bases), I think that's a very, very small price to pay for getting to use the places where the story actually took place.

In reply to:

I see him as exploiting these people in return for fame.



If he wanted fame he would have done an easy movie simple people like you can enjoy. This is far from being a pop corn film with a predefined structure; if anything, it suffers a little from being so unconventional. There's no way a movie like this can be a hit.

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Monkeyboy
(band intro)
09/13/06 02:59 PM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Look what happened to Fahrenheit 9/11, it backfired on Michael Moore and let Bush win a second term.


Dogz, have you seen this movie?

In reply to:

It's too easy to create sensationalism and does nobody any favours.


Right. That's why Karl Rove's such a political failure.

"...most of us know Monkeyboy is in fact frightfully intelligent. Try to argue with Monkeyboy and you'll lose no matter what." - K

ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/13/06 06:55 PM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: Sam_X]  

In reply to:

you better don't miss United 93, if you haven't seen it already. It's THE 9/11 movie.


I considered going to see it because one of the doomed passengers is played by one of my idols, David Rasche from Sledge Hammer!...



...the presence of Rasche is what made me see The Sentinel (he played the President). But that movie kinda sucked...



EJ
(byroad singer)
09/14/06 05:06 AM
Re: Not likely to forget something like that! new [re: ziggfried]  

Sledge Hammer was brilliant. It is still on here on some minor German channel and once in a while I manage to watch it. Great stuff.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/14/06 05:24 AM
Trust me...I know what I'm doing! new [re: EJ]  

In reply to:

Sledge Hammer was brilliant. It is still on here on some minor German channel and once in a while I manage to watch it. Great stuff.


When they were finally released, I pounced on the Sledge DVDs like a salivating dog:



I love Captain Trunk's uncharacteristic cheesy grin on the cover of season two.



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/14/06 08:52 AM
Boxed in office new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

The film made $32 million at the box office, which at an average of $10 a ticket works out to approximately 3 million people having seen it. Let's go ahead and grant them 10 million viewers counting DVDs and television.


This was released at the box office? I saw it on dvd, at best it's a semi-documentary, not a film for cinema release, this would have played better on television.

In reply to:

I, for one, am sick of hearing about Paul Greengrass all the time


Same here! it's just so boring.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

EJ
(byroad singer)
09/14/06 09:59 AM
Don't Thank God - Thank Gun new [re: ziggfried]  

From 9/11 to Sledge Hammer in a handful of posts - that's what I love about TW.

Student: What's your favorite book?
Sledge Hammer: War and Peace! The first half.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/14/06 10:30 AM
Make War - Not Love new [re: EJ]  

In reply to:

From 9/11 to Sledge Hammer in a handful of posts - that's what I love about TW.


Cop: What do you think of reading prisoners their rights?
Sledge: I prefer reading them their last rites!
Cop: What do you think of the death penalty?
Sledge: It's too lenient. There's always the possibility of reincarnation!

and

Sledge: Jenkins, you need to see a special kind of psychiatrist.
Jenkins: What kind?
Sledge: The kind that's licensed to kill their patients!



Sam_X
(electric tomato)
09/14/06 10:36 AM
Re: Bigfoot's Wristwatch new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

That fucking media WHORE!!!!


+1, I went shopping today and guess what - Paul Greengrass! I opened a bag of chips - Greengrass again. And the radio keeps playing his stupid single U93 (Goin' Down) over & over, it's nauseating.

Ban this filth, before it's too late.

~
Heaven is a place where
Nothing ever happens

EJ
(byroad singer)
09/14/06 10:37 AM
Re: Make War - Not Love new [re: ziggfried]  



And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/14/06 11:02 AM
Re: Make War - Not Love new [re: EJ]  

This might not be appropiate for a thread dedicated to a tragedy involving collapsing buildings...but who could forget Sledge's excessive method of dealing with a rooftop sniper?






Sledge: I think I got him.


EJ
(byroad singer)
09/14/06 11:15 AM
Re: Make War - Not Love new [re: ziggfried]  

Fully appropriate in my view. Makes more sense than dogz ideas about 9/11.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/14/06 11:27 AM
Re: Make War - Not Love new [re: EJ]  

In reply to:

Makes more sense than dogz ideas about 9/11.


You dare impugn the most astute political analyst of our time?

Anyway, another classic Sledge moment...

Trunk: Hammer, give me your badge. You're never again going to cause me pain...


(stab)


Trunk: AAAAARGH!!!!!

EJ
(byroad singer)
09/14/06 11:53 AM
Re: Make War - Not Love new [re: ziggfried]  

Brilliant. Where do you get all those shots, ahem, I mean photos from?

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/14/06 12:12 PM
Re: Make War - Not Love new [re: EJ]  

In reply to:

Where do you get all those shots, ahem, I mean photos from?


The Sledge Hammer! Arsenal. The best Sledge site around is Sledge Hammer! Online though...



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/14/06 02:27 PM
FOX!!! not bloody likely new [re: Mxy]  

In reply to:

This is far from being a pop corn film with a predefined structure; if anything, it suffers a little from being so unconventional. There's no way a movie like this can be a hit.


Ya know, I never took you for a fan of Fox television productions, considering how right wing they are, still politics is a game of pick and chose, isn't it?



London Bye Ta-Ta...

Remade/Remodeled
(acolyte)
09/14/06 02:38 PM
The Paki's are stealing our jobs! Asexual's unite! new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

politics is a game of pick and chose, isn't it?



And you must be absolutely gutted you can't choose Enoch Powell anymore, yeah?

Deny your culture of consumption;
This is a culture of destruction


Monkeyboy
(band intro)
09/14/06 03:24 PM
Throwing the Dogz a bone new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Fox television productions, considering how right wing they are


Fox News: home of Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity
Fox Network: home of The Simpsons, American Dad, and House. Also former home of Arrested Development (which was cancelled due to low ratings, not because of political differences) and Married With Children.

There is probably a right-leaning subtext to the network as a whole but they tend to have some of the most original shows as well. Hell, F/X gave that pinko hippie, Morgan Spurlock, a show on which to spew his communist propaganda. Fox News has the agenda; the other channels are just there to make money (for the most part).

"...most of us know Monkeyboy is in fact frightfully intelligent. Try to argue with Monkeyboy and you'll lose no matter what." - K

Mxy
(crash course raver)
09/14/06 07:33 PM
Re: FOX!!! not bloody likely new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

This was released at the box office? I saw it on dvd, at best it's a semi-documentary, not a film for cinema release, this would have played better on television.



1. So you think Paul Greengrass (there's that fucking name again!) hoped to get rich and famous by making a TV documentary?

2. How long ago did you watch this movie, Dogz? According to Amazon, the DVD was only released on the 5th of this month.

In reply to:

Ya know, I never took you for a fan of Fox television productions, considering how right wing they are, still politics is a game of pick and chose, isn't it?




What the fuck are you talking about? From Amazon:

Production Company: Sidney Kimmel Entertainment, Studio Canal, Universal Pictures, Working Title Films

There's an awful TV movie called Flight 93. Dogz... are you sure you're not talking about that one? It's far fetched, but let's face it, you ARE stupid enough to make that kind of mistake!

"NN webcomic. No assertion of notability other than a lack of artistic value." -Wikipedia
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Biarre Webcomic. Updated daily, for real!


PHOENIX
(funny little bunny)
09/14/06 09:32 PM
Re: Don't Thank God - Thank Gun new [re: EJ]  

In reply to:

From 9/11 to Sledge Hammer in a handful of posts - that's what I love about TW.


When you think about the way America responded to 9/11 it actually fits quite well. A brilliant allegory in fact. I hazard a bet that if they had of started making Sledge Hammer these days a greater proportion of critics would have no doubt said it was a scathing reproach on America's reaction to 9/11.

That goes to show that all too often critics read more into things than is actually there.

Am I suspended in gaffa?

ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/14/06 10:08 PM
Re: Don't Thank God - Thank Gun new [re: PHOENIX]  

In reply to:

I hazard a bet that if they had of started making Sledge Hammer these days a greater proportion of critics would have no doubt said it was a scathing reproach on America's reaction to 9/11.


The time is right for the return of Sledge! From [series creator] Alan Spencer's The Return of Sledge Hammer!...

Sledge felt America was heading in the wrong direction. It had become gentle, soft and interminably peaceful.

One thing Hammer knew for sure: You could always count on those tides changing.

And when Hammer placed his beloved Magnum on the pillow beside him and drifted off to sleep, he dreamt of a day when chaos and disorder would make a welcome return.

Because that would be the day that Sledge Hammer and his “Gun” would be needed again.

Sure enough, years later… Hammer awoke one morning to discover a world where evildoers had returned in droves, forcing American to return to its proud ass kickin’ roots.

For the first time, Sledge found a politician he actually liked: George W. Bush.

Hammer respected a President who mostly talked about war and blowing things up… with a foreign policy that amounted to blasting other countries to smithereens.

In fact, Hammer had been vacationing in Florida during the last election… and was so impressed by candidate Bush that he voted for him three times.

Hammer sincerely hoped that when the U.S. was done obliterating all the vermin on foreign soil… the current administration could be convinced to attack Wisconsin, since that’s where Sledge’s ex-wife was living.

And as Hammer was savoring this blissful thought, the phone rang.

Sledge didn’t recognize the voice on the other end, but he did recognize the man’s title: Head of Homeland Security.

Hammer accepted the collect call.

And subsequently, Sledge was informed of a new and powerful weapon that had fallen into the wrong hands… and how the higher-ups in Washington felt the time had come to fight fire with gunfire.

So… after fifteen long years, Inspector Sledge Hammer was taken off suspension.




EJ
(byroad singer)
09/15/06 05:36 AM
Re: Don't Thank God - Thank Gun new [re: ziggfried]  

Wonderful. Just wonderful.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


PHOENIX
(funny little bunny)
09/15/06 05:41 AM
Great thread new [re: ziggfried]  

Aaahhhh. The two ends and topics of this thread have been neatly tied.

Am I suspended in gaffa?

EJ
(byroad singer)
09/15/06 06:21 AM
A Miracle new [re: PHOENIX]  

Yeah. It's amazing. Truely amazing.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/15/06 07:01 AM
Re: FOX!!! not bloody likely new [re: Mxy]  

In reply to:

2. How long ago did you watch this movie, Dogz? According to Amazon, the DVD was only released on the 5th of this month.


I'm a member of a group that is sent dvd's prior to mass release, I then fill in a questionnaire, it is posted and read by the company, same with television programmes, pilots etc...

In reply to:

There's an awful TV movie called Flight 93


The version I have says...in association with Fox television, perhaps this is the tv movie, if it is? i am sorely mistaken, can you provide a url for the film you mean? that way i can see for myself.




London Bye Ta-Ta...

Strawman
(acolyte)
09/15/06 07:17 AM
Re: FOX!!! not bloody likely new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

I then fill in a questionnaire, it is posted and read by the company, same with television programmes, pilots etc...


So it was you who ticked all the boxes of approval in the Dale Winton's Supermarket Sweep questionnaire.



ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/15/06 08:50 AM
In rememberance of cuddly mascots under fire new [re: PHOENIX]  

In reply to:

Aaahhhh. The two ends and topics of this thread have been neatly tied.


Yeah. So now that we have all that sorted out, I think this thread needs to go into a completely new direction.

...so yeah, I was in Fremantle today and I passed by a souvenir store, and I saw a rack of kangaroo and koala dolls. They were so limp and downcast, it looked like they had been hanged, like they were being executed in a concentration camp or something:





How depressing is that?



theidiot2
(wild eyed peoploid)
09/15/06 09:03 AM
Re: In rememberance of cuddly mascots under fire new [re: ziggfried]  

Didn't they have any executed stingrays? I'd buy one of those.


Temperature's rising, but any idiot would know that...

EJ
(byroad singer)
09/15/06 09:43 AM
Re: In rememberance of cuddly mascots under fire new [re: theidiot2]  



Would make a pretty dangerous rucksack though.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow


EuropeanCanon
(crash course raver)
09/15/06 09:50 AM
Close Encounters of the Furry Kind new [re: ziggfried]  

That's it! I think I've discoverd your great calling in life, zig.

If you bought the entire stock of fluffy kangaroo and koala dolls from all these souvenir death camps in Fremantle, then those poor, defenceless creatures would be spared their grisly public humiliation.

Sure, you'd risk the wrath of slightly vexed tourists unable to mark their joyous visit to the Fremantle Motor Museum by purchasing a stuffed marsupial, but just imagine: you'd be hailed as a sort of modern-day Oskar Schindler of the cuddly toy.


God's footballer hears the voices of angels
Above the choir at Molineux


ziggfried
(acolyte)
09/15/06 09:57 AM
Re: In rememberance of cuddly mascots under fire new [re: theidiot2]  

In reply to:

(theidiot2) Didn't they have any executed stingrays? I'd buy one of those.


You don't honour the memory of Steve Irwin by buying an executed stingray. You have to go out and execute a stingray yourself!

In reply to:

(EuropeanCanon) That's it! I think I've discoverd your great calling in life, zig.

If you bought the entire stock of fluffy kangaroo and koala dolls from all these souvenir death camps in Fremantle, then those poor, defenceless creatures would be spared their grisly public humiliation.

Sure, you'd risk the wrath of slightly vexed tourists unable to mark their joyous visit to the Fremantle Motor Museum by purchasing a stuffed marsupial, but just imagine: you'd be hailed as a sort of modern-day Oskar Schindler of the cuddly toy.


I'm already practicing my cloying self-pitying "I could have done more...I could have done so much more!" speech, when all the cuddly toys congregate to thank me for saving them from Ozwitz.



Mxy
(crash course raver)
09/15/06 10:08 PM
Re: FOX!!! not bloody likely new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

I'm a member of a group that is sent dvd's prior to mass release, I then fill in a questionnaire, it is posted and read by the company, same with television programmes, pilots etc...



Even if this group consists of thousands of people, the thought of you having any amount of influence in the world of entertainment is deeply disturbing. It does makes complete sense though, for many reasons.

In reply to:

The version I have says...in association with Fox television, perhaps this is the tv movie, if it is? i am sorely mistaken, can you provide a url for the film you mean? that way i can see for myself.



Sure, you can find info about the TV movie here and here.

"NN webcomic. No assertion of notability other than a lack of artistic value." -Wikipedia
"Not for me, but thanks." -Warren Ellis
Biarre Webcomic. Updated daily, for real!


diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/16/06 07:39 AM
Plastic People new [re: Mxy]  

In reply to:

Even if this group consists of thousands of people, the thought of you having any amount of influence in the world of entertainment is deeply disturbing. It does makes complete sense though, for many reasons.


The group consists of 200 members in the UK, what you see, is what you deserve.

In reply to:

Sure, you can find info about the TV movie here and here.


Even after looking at both films, i cannot tell the difference, with respect, most american actors all look the same to me, plastic.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

th0mas
(acolyte)
09/16/06 12:51 PM
Re: Plastic People new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

what you see, is what you deserve.


Nope, unfortunatly what I see is what *they* deserve.


Liest das denn keiner außer mir?

Sam_X
(electric tomato)
09/16/06 06:47 PM
Re: Plastic People new [re: diamondogz74]  

This is the movie you're looking for.


~
Heaven is a place where
Nothing ever happens


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