Ok, here's how it goes. I name an 80s tune and I wanna know if you people think it's crappy or crappily good. Feel free to add your own. Ready? OK!

Footloose
crap!
craptastic!

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I accidentally rated Footloose as "craptastic" when I actually wanted to rate it "crap" so please, everyone, make the mental correction (-1 craptastic, +1 crap) when reviewing the results.

Why didn't John Hinkley Jr. go after Rick Astley? That's what I'd like to know.

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Kid, you've paid your dues...dues and dues. ~J. Tweedy

That was fun. Actually, I ended up ranking most of the choices "Craptastic," in some cases agonizing a bit before settling. I really loved the '80s. Those were some of my formative years, after all. The only ones I rated "Crap" were "Footloose," "Hello," and "Jack and Diane."

I agonized over:

"Uptown Girl," but I went for "Craptastic" because I couldn't get the image of Homer Simpson's devotion to it out of my mind.

"U Can't Touch This." In all fairness, this would have been "crap" if I didn't adore Hammer from his appearance on "Surreal Life."

"Never Gonna Give You Up" has to be craptastic 'cause of the fact that Rick Astley is a short, skinny white man.

"Summer of '69" reminds me of good times, so I'm biased on that front.

I'm surprised I'm the first to give a positive rating to "Like a Virgin." C'mon, folks, that's a freakin' classic.

Sometimes I feel the need to move on. So I pack a bag and move on.

I can't believe I left out the hair metal!

Here I Go Again (Whitesnake)
Crap!
Craptastic!

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She's A Maniac (Hall & Oates)

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Wrong!

"Maniac" ("She's a maniac, maniac on the floor, and she's dancing like she's never danced before") from that crap movie about the dancing welder (ETA: it's called "Flashdance") is by Michael Sembello.

"Maneater" ("Woah here she comes, watch out for her, she'll chew you up, woah here she comes, she's a maneater") is by Hall and Oates.

They're both crap, though. In fact, I think all Hall and Oates songs should be banned, 'cause they're just too bad for human consumption.

Sometimes I feel the need to move on. So I pack a bag and move on.

Edited by WildWind on 01/28/07 11:09 PM (server time).

oops. my bad.

Walk out into velvet
Nothing more to say
You're my favourite moment
You're my Saturday

So which one did you mean?

Sometimes I feel the need to move on. So I pack a bag and move on.

I meant the Flashdance one of course.

Maneater is fucking awesome, and it's neither crap nor craptastic.

Walk out into velvet
Nothing more to say
You're my favourite moment
You're my Saturday

You're right. I dunno this one.
I do, however, love Dio.
But I also love Hall and Oates.

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Anyone rates this crap and they get a beating.

I think I was trying to suggest something about the duality of man, sir

There was a time that I would have voted "crap" but then I witnessed a real, bone fide retard singing it at karake complete with dance moves. I swear to you: I saw cherubs.

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I just want to make it clear that I voted "craptastic" specifically for the extended dance mix (found on the second side of the cassette single, btw).

[echo effects and vaguely latin dance beat]"never gonna...gonna...never gonna...gonna...never gonna...gonna...(repeat for about 2 minutes)"

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The opposite is true of Like A Virgin sung by a retard at karaoke. There's nothing enjoyable about that.

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As someone who grew up listening almost exclusively to soft rock/easy listening, I'm proud to be the first to vote this one as "craptastic."

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A few confusions:
Which "Roxanne" is that supposed to be? The Police one is from 1978.

"Centrefold" was fom the J. Geils Band and the Kid Creole song was "Stool Pigeon". Nice song actually.

Anyway, some real gems on the list: Whitesnake, Flock Of Seagulls, Black and the pre-Hood Bryan Adams.

Absolutely terrible: Ebony & Ivory.

Most bizarre: "Hello" with Lionel Richie asking the blind girl if she was looking for him. Love that.

No memory: "I melt with you".

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow

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"Centrefold" was fom the J. Geils Band

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oops how right you are.

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No memory: "I melt ith you".

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this was by Modern English...actually I've never heard there version. Ive only heard Nouvelle Vogue's Version which is great.

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Which "Roxanne" is that supposed to be? The Police one is from 1978.

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oops i did it again.

yeah, i was thinking i should do a bit of fact-checking there, but meh. i did mean the police version, which to me is totally an 80s song, but if you don't think so, then don't vote.

oops, i mean,

Walk out into velvet
Nothing more to say
You're my favourite moment
You're my Saturday

Thank you for making this correction, WW, (knew we could count on you to prove someone wrong!) but how dare you call Flashdance a crap movie?!

For one, it was made in Pittsburgh, so like me, it is sooty and wonderful.

Two, there are some pretty original dance scenes in this movie - namely the famous water splashing scene, and the one with Patrick Swayze's gangly broad (of the time) who also played Penny in Dirty Dancing - when she kicks it to "Manhunt." She reminds me of Big Bird in that scene, but she does things with her body that still just blow my damn mind every time I watch it. And I like that she starts out wearing a catcher's mask.

And, you know what... I think the soundtrack rocks, in all its cheesy glory. It's one of the first CDs I ever bought, and the first vinyl I ever owned. There's a couple shitty songs on there, but how can you not appreciate "What A Feeling" in some way, or that last scene where she serves that stuffy ass panel of fuddies duddies when she breakdances!

Highlights from this soundtrack:

"Romeo" by Donna Summer
"He's a Dream" by Shandi
"Seduce Me Tonight" by Cycle V (that's gotta be the raunchiest saxophone riff in the history of.. well, saxophone riffs.)
"Gloria" by Laura Brannigan
"I Love Rock 'n' Roll" by Joan Jett & her Blackhearts (not on the soundtrack - probably couldn't afford that

"And don't call us Maltesers." - Marquis

"Flashdance" was awful. The hype around that film was immense and when I gave in and decided to go and watch it I was amazed how crappy it was. Hardly enough interesting scenes to fill the three minutes of the title track's video.

"What A Feeling" is still a wonderful pop song though.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow

EJ, you obviously wouldn't know a good movie if it hit you in the Pachanga.

I'll bet you can't even tell what I'm referencing right now.

Shame...

"And don't call us Maltesers." - Marquis

Shouldn't it be "referencing to"?

But otherwise you are certainly right.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow

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Shouldn't it be "referencing to"?

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No, either "referring to" or "referencing" are correct.

Anyway it's from Dirty Dancing.

Sometimes I feel the need to move on. So I pack a bag and move on.

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Shouldn't it be "referencing to"?

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No, it shouldn't. "Reference" can be used as a transitive verb without a preposition. Perhaps you're thinking of "referring to" or "making a reference to".

But otherwise you are certainly right.


Temperature's rising, but any idiot would know that...

Crikey, if anyone's pedantic enough to get there before me it's WW.


Temperature's rising, but any idiot would know that...

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this was by Modern English...actually I've never heard there version. Ive only heard Nouvelle Vogue's Version which is great.

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Heathen! Modern English's "I Melt With You" is a classic, and the rest of the album After The Snow ain't bad either. I like the song "Life in the Gladhouse." I had that album on cassette.

Anyway, "I Melt With You" was made famous in the 1983 flick Valley Girl.

Sometimes I feel the need to move on. So I pack a bag and move on.

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Crikey, if anyone's pedantic enough to get there before me it's WW.

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We posted at the same time. Does that make us equally pedantic?

Sometimes I feel the need to move on. So I pack a bag and move on.

Thanks, good to know.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow

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We posted at the same time. Does that make us equally pedantic?

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It makes me want to re-evaluate my life choices.


Temperature's rising, but any idiot would know that...

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EJ, you obviously wouldn't know a good movie if it hit you in the Pachanga.

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...you are certainly right.

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Good. I'm glad we're in agreement, there.

"And don't call us Maltesers." - Marquis

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It makes me want to re-evaluate my life choices.

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Cool. I didn't know I had that much power.

Sometimes I feel the need to move on. So I pack a bag and move on.

Until I find the strength to make the changes I need to, I'll bear the following signature around my neck to constantly remind me of my greatest flaw:


As pedantic as WildWind

if you don't know Star Trekkin then where were you in the 80's?

Indeed I did know it, but I hadn't seen the video until now. If ever I was in need of something life-affirming . . . . It's definitely craptastic.

Er, what exactly does craptastic mean, anyway?

Sweetness, sweetness, I was only joking when I said I'd like to smash every tooth in your head . . .

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Er, what exactly does craptastic mean, anyway?

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I'm assuming It's good shit? or it's so crap it's good.

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Er, what exactly does craptastic mean, anyway?

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I believe that you can answer this for yourself, if you use context clues from my original post.

Walk out into velvet
Nothing more to say
You're my favourite moment
You're my Saturday

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if you don't know Star Trekkin then where were you in the 80's?

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In a country where the original Star Trek wasn't shown until 1987-1989 and three of the movies (II, V and VI) weren't shown in theatres until 1996, so...

Q: What's the difference between Michael Jackson and a plastic bag?
A: One is made of plastic and is dangerous to kids, while the other is used to carry your groceries home.

Well, okay, craptastic means 'crappily good', but that could still mean a couple of things:

1) It's not as crap as 'crap', possibly in a slightly perplexing, kitsch way. It's able to bend the conventions of whatever it is it's doing so shamelessly it's not at clear what it's attempting. Ergo, it's impossible to reach a precise judgement on it.

2) It's crappier than 'crap', but eminently watchable in the same way that car accidents, bomb explosions and Dogz' posts could somehow draw people to bear witness to them.

And y'know, various grey areas and shades in between.

Sweetness, sweetness, I was only joking when I said I'd like to smash every tooth in your head . . .

Auntie P, you think too much. Everyone else here seems to get it. Use your gut, not your noggin. Sometimes you have to feel your way through life, you know what I'm sayin, man?

but for the record, craptastic is something that's crappy, either so crappy it's good, or that you know in your heart of hearts is crap, but you still like it anyway.

nah it doesn't -- it's like "beautiful" or "pornographic" -- it means what you want it to mean.

Walk out into velvet
Nothing more to say
You're my favourite moment
You're my Saturday

the most beautiful thing about Modern English is that their sound was quite a bit darker than "I Melt With You" and oftentimes, very abrasive. cue it up to their output on 4ad. After the Snow is amazing, but Mesh & Lace is even more so...

hands up, WHO WANTS TO DIE!

Well Craptastic is what is. Don't analyse the crap with a magnifying glass.

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As pedantic as WildWind

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Realising you've hit rock bottom is the first step on the path to recovery. Good luck to you.

"This future racing toward us paralyzes the wallet and the brain"

ha ha that still counts in my books. Even it is the 1780's.

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