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Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 03:22 AM
MIKA  



Campy, vampy, trampy?


Youtube.

Discuss.

I'm so intellectual.

(And I know all you Brits probably are sick of it, but he's not really known over here yet.)



Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/04/07 04:29 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Looks like a Jew.

Please visit my Message Board so I can ban you.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 04:50 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Hell yeah.

You know I can't resist those Jewish boys with the curly hair, girly looks, and brightly colored pants.

But actually, he's half-Lebanese.



Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/04/07 05:23 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Ah, a terrorist. Or a half-terrorist.

Please visit my Message Board so I can ban you.

96dbFreak
(acolyte)
04/04/07 05:27 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Monkeyboy]  

He's not a Jew he's a Lebo.

_____________________________________________

"You complete me twister!" - Remade/Remodeled


Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 05:32 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Ah, a terrorist. Or a half-terrorist.


Well, White Prism definitely seems to think that his songs are works of full-on terrorism.

I, as we all know, am exactly the kind of commie anti-American hippie who would like that sort of thing. Put your raygun to my head and all that jazz.



KModerator
(thunder ocean)
04/04/07 07:49 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

But why does he have a Finnish name?

"I do not remember seeing a too narrow trachea on a cat, but I'm sure they can be bred to have them."
- Marjatta Snellman, professor of clinical veterinary medicine

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 07:53 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

Because he's so fabulous that he transcends nationalities. :-P

His full given name is Michael, and his nickname is Mica, which he turned into Mika for a stagename.



schizophrenic
(acolyte)
04/04/07 10:11 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Well, that's just silly.



jareth's tights
(absolute beginner )
04/04/07 10:25 AM
choose someone older, grrl new [re: Starlite]  

he's so hawt and cheesy and stereotypically faggy. (^_~)

a man would tear his brother's flesh, a chance to die
to turn to mold.


Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 10:27 AM
He's 23! new [re: jareth's tights]  

Hey, he's only one year younger than me. That's 2 years older than the last 3 (4?) guys I've been into in real-life. This is totally a step up for me.

He is, however, gay.



jareth's tights
(mortal with potential)
04/04/07 10:35 AM
Re: He's 23! new [re: Starlite]  

>He is, however, gay.

well, blow me. :P

edit: wow! i'm a mortal with potential! how much cred is that worth around here??

a man would tear his brother's flesh, a chance to die
to turn to mold.

Edited by Jareth's Tights on 04/04/07 10:36 AM (server time).



Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 10:40 AM
Too bad he gives repetitive interviews new [re: jareth's tights]  

In reply to:

well, blow me. :P


Are you him?

Anyway, I'm just sayin' it 'cause the Brits are all, "ooooh, he won't divulge his sexuality! So coy!" Pfffft.



jareth's tights
(mortal with potential)
04/04/07 10:51 AM
Re: Too bad he gives repetitive interviews new [re: Starlite]  

he won't divulge his sexuality so you kindly divulged it for him? neat. you read the signs correctly? XD

am i correct in saying you once said that bowie was, like, totally straight and just playing ghey for laughs?

a man would tear his brother's flesh, a chance to die
to turn to mold.

Edited by Jareth's Tights on 04/04/07 10:53 AM (server time).



Strawman
(chameleon, comedian, corinthian and caricature)
04/04/07 11:09 AM
Re: Too bad he gives repetitive interviews new [re: jareth's tights]  

I've always believed that Bowie is straight, but there's been times I've wondered.

And...


I'm currently practising that dance.



theidiot2
(kook)
04/04/07 11:48 AM
Re: Too bad he gives repetitive interviews new [re: Strawman]  

That's actually a great series of clips, cheers.



As pedantic as WildWind

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 11:49 AM
Re: Too bad he gives repetitive interviews new [re: jareth's tights]  

Yep, I've decided to let you all in on this most closely-guarded secret of his, 'cause obviously whatever guess on the matter I voice must be true. He is welcome to come over and complain to me personally if he has a problem with it.

And yeah, I did say that about Bowie. Well, not that he played gay for laughs, but that he basically wasn't so much ever attracted to men as he was attracted to the idea of being attracted to men at the time. Marc Bolan, now, he was far more genuinely bi, all the more so because he plainly admitted to preferring women.

But Strawman's got the right idea. More videos!

Edited by Starlite on 04/04/07 12:16 PM (server time).



riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 12:45 PM
Re: Too bad he gives repetitive interviews new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

Well, not that he played gay for laughs, but that he basically wasn't so much ever attracted to men as he was attracted to the idea of being attracted to men at the time.


..are you saying he didn't enjoy it? bowie doesn't seem the type to do things that don't satisfy him.



Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 01:07 PM
Experimentation new [re: riley]  

In reply to:

..are you saying he didn't enjoy it? bowie doesn't seem the type to do things that don't satisfy him.


Well, he stopped pretty quickly, didn't he? I'm not saying he was like, shuddering in revulsion and forcing himself or anything, but it really wasn't his thing.

I mean, it's not like there aren't other people who've done the same thing. (Flea and Anthony Kiedis come to mind...)



riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 01:16 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

Well, he stopped pretty quickly, didn't he?



not what angie said.

In reply to:

I'm not saying he was like, shuddering in revulsion and forcing himself or anything, but it really wasn't his thing.


i'm sure he always got consent.

In reply to:

Anyway, it's not like there aren't other people who've done the same thing. (Flea and Anthony Kiedis come to mind...)


they'd have to be bi as well. though i didn't know anthony got into it/hims. it's kinda sexy on bowie but on anthony it's a bit of a turn off. not sure why.



Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 01:33 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: riley]  

No, they aren't bi. They've said before that they really wanted to be gay, and tried very very hard, but in the end they had to accept it wasn't going to happen.

I suppose one could consider Bowie bi, but that would be stretching it by my definition... I mean, okay, he was not-straight enough to allow him to engage in some experimentation and maybe carry through a tryst or two. But that also depends on how you'd define "tryst"...

...ack, I almost went and typed out my specific opinions on how far he's gone with whom/when, but this board so does not need that.

I shall keep my specific opinions both on Bowie's sexual experience and Mika's actual sexuality to myself.



riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 01:50 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

No, they aren't bi. They've said before that they really wanted to be gay, and tried very very hard, but in the end they had to accept it wasn't going to happen.


they would've had to of gotten a hardon at some point..unless they were the.. 'recipient'.

In reply to:

I suppose one could consider Bowie bi, but that would be stretching it by my definition... I mean, okay, he was not-straight enough to allow him to engage in some experimentation and maybe carry through a tryst or two. But that also depends on how you'd define "tryst"...

...ack, I almost went and typed out my specific opinions on how far he's gone with whom/when, but this board so does not need that.


On the contrary.. you have introduced some valuable points but without something to back them up I just can't take them seriously. Is this an important discussion or not?!

In reply to:

I shall keep my specific opinions both on Bowie's sexual experience and Mika's actual sexuality to myself.


Mika is far too pretty to be straight.. and yeah i know he's not freddie but freddie [on that he does have his own talent..] didn't come out straight away either. use those night time fantasies while you can.

jareth's tights
(mortal with potential)
04/04/07 01:59 PM
how titillating. new [re: Starlite]  

>this most closely-guarded secret of his

fair enough. his (starlite-assigned) gayness was of the dejected "i'm never going to meet him/make out with him plus he's much too old" sort, rather than genuine gayness. ;)

but yeah, judging from that earlier link, it sounds like his career (or the hype) will die as soon as he comes out/stays in… or not "stays in", but comes out as a straight person, if that's possible. perhaps that fatal interview where mika's oh-so-controversial-sexuality is revealed will add that much needed interview-variation you call for. and then we can go "oh wow!@" and start another thread.

but seriously now, will anyone who's posted so far own up to liking his music? ;)


a man would tear his brother's flesh, a chance to die
to turn to mold.


jareth's tights
(mortal with potential)
04/04/07 02:06 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: riley]  

>On the contrary.. you have introduced some valuable points but without something to back them up I just can't take them seriously.

it depends how you define bi doesn't it? i'm loathe to bestowe the lable on anyone who doesn't "keep it up" so to speak. surely it would have to add up to more than literally one or two casual encounters. contrary to contemporary macho thinking, it's possible to engage in same sex activity as a straight person without puking up your guts.

though this is the point where marian webster usually makes an unsolicitied entrance.

a man would tear his brother's flesh, a chance to die
to turn to mold.


Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 02:20 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: riley]  

In reply to:

they would've had to of gotten a hardon at some point..unless they were the.. 'recipient'.


Aw, geez. Well, first off, they may never have got that far--thus the gayness not working out for them. Second off, it is entirely possible to get a hard on with enough diligence even if you're not really into whoever you're with. Some parts of the male anatomy do function fairly mechanically, and a hand is a hand is a mouth is a mouth.

In reply to:

Mika is far too pretty to be straight...


I am not saying he is straight, either. But there are other categories besides straight and gay, and even straight and bi and gay. These days all the gay men I know occasionally have sex with women and enjoy it, and all the lesbians are having sex with transfolk or gay men, and all the bisexuals have eschewed labels altogether and prefer to be multiqueer, and even the straight men are getting in on the game and make out with other men at bars or parties (and these are not the closeted types).




riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 02:23 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: jareth's tights]  

In reply to:

it depends how you define bi doesn't it? i'm loathe to bestowe the lable on anyone who doesn't "keep it up" so to speak.


thought erections were biological reaction to being sexually aroused?

In reply to:

surely it would have to add up to more than literally one or two casual encounters. contrary to contemporary macho thinking, it's possible to engage in same sex activity as a straight person without puking up your guts.


sorry but you have to be a little bit bi or they'd be no point to it.. unless they want to be exploited but thats a seperate issue. there'd be no physical/emotional reward.
[love the 'puking you guts up'/homophobe inference btw..]

In reply to:

though this is the point where marian webster usually makes an unsolicitied entrance.


you've still got time for a wikipedia edit.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 02:28 PM
Re: how titillating. new [re: jareth's tights]  

Hurrah, you get me! And I'm grateful for your comments on the non black-and-whiteness of same-sex encounters above.

In reply to:

his (starlite-assigned) gayness was of the dejected "i'm never going to meet him/make out with him plus he's much too old" sort, rather than genuine gayness. ;)


Well, I'm not ruling out its being genuine, but yeah, it was of the variety you mention.

In reply to:

it sounds like his career (or the hype) will die as soon as he comes out/stays in… or not "stays in", but comes out as a straight person, if that's possible.


Actually, while a lot of the hype has to do with his sexuality, a good chunk of it has to do with his cheeky unabashed poppy campness, which makes me glad. I don't think he'll ever have to come out as straight though.

And after listening to it on repeat for the last two days straight, I will admit that I like his music. But I may have been temporarily brainwashed. That "Do I attract you? / Do I repulse you / with my queasy smile? Am I too dirty / Am I too flirty/ Do I like what you like?" part of Grace Kelly is definitely enough to make me rather disregard my brain.

ETA:

In reply to:

sorry but you have to be a little bit bi or they'd be no point to it..


The "point" would be the curiousity of experimenting, and the infatuation/interest with the perceived glamour/artiness/exoticness/nonsexual affinity with/of gay culture and wanting to be a part of that. ;-)

riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 02:44 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

Aw, geez. Well, first off, they may never have got that far--thus the gayness not working out for them.


but to claim you're gay you've gotta at least have some sort of confirmation. like.. say.. having gay sex. that'd do it. most gay people already 'know' from an early age. if someone's not sure they're probably bi imo.

In reply to:

Second off, it is entirely possible to get a hard on with enough diligence even if you're not really into whoever you're with.


pornos yes.. real life. why bother? doubt someone would find their new partner having a pull over girly mags prior to very romantic.

In reply to:

Some parts of the male anatomy do function fairly mechanically, and a hand is a hand is a mouth is a mouth.


if you have to force yourself to do it despite not really wanting to it could be either self depreciating or alot of work.. doesn't sound seductive.

and why does this subject keep poping up? alot of bowie fans seem to cling to the idea but 'he was never really gay though'. whats it matter?



riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 02:53 PM
Re: how titillating. new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

The "point" would be the curiousity of experimenting, and the infatuation/interest with the perceived glamour/artiness/exoticness/nonsexual affinity with/of gay culture and wanting to be a part of that. ;-)


beauty is in the eye of the beholder.. experimentation is not 'coming out'. i believe most people are a little bit bi which is why so many people experiment with that facet of themselves. i don't think it's healthy for people to experiment with things that they are uncomfortable with.

can we now reach agree that bowie exprimented with his bi side and then chose the straight? it's like a fucking never ending footy game. it's a draw.



Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 02:56 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: riley]  

Dude, you're the one bringing it up and dragging it out. I assure you my thinking he was "never really gay" has nothing to do with any sort of homophobia or unwillingness to accept others' sexuality. In fact, I have been trying to convince plenty of my male friends that they are gay despite their total non-cooperation.

In reply to:

but to claim you're gay you've gotta at least have some sort of confirmation.


Are we still talking about Flea and Anthony here? They said they really wanted to be gay, and tried their hardest, but found they weren't made for it--they never claimed to be gay.

As for Bowie, well gee, he said that he was "gay and always has been" while married and expecting a child, so that tells you how much he cared for strict accuracy of terms at the time. (By your own definition, that would make him at most bisexual.)

In reply to:

if you have to force yourself to do it despite not really wanting to it could be either self depreciating or alot of work.. doesn't sound seductive


Well, that's why most people give up on it then. But really, you can't imagine someone being so seduced by the idea of a particular type of romance that they throw themselves into it hoping it will work, somehow?


But yes, yes, Bowie experimented with his "bi side" and then chose the straight. Because his bi side was like, nearly non-existent when it came to the nitty gritty.

Anyway, let's go back to talking about the prettiness of Mika now!

Pretty pretty.





Silly pants, yay!

Edited by Starlite on 04/04/07 03:13 PM (server time).



riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 03:03 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

Dude, you're the one bringing it up and dragging it out.


the forum has been far to placid lately.

In reply to:

I assure you my thinking he was "never really gay" has nothing to do with any sort of homophobia or unwillingness to accept others' sexuality. In fact, I have been trying to convince plenty of my male friends that they are gay despite their total non-cooperation.


Your male or do you just wanna watch?
My advice is to get them in touch with their 'little bit bi' sides..

[yeah i know i just backflipped on it.]

In reply to:

Are we still talking about Flea and Anthony here?


Anthony.

In reply to:

They said they really wanted to be gay, and tried their hardest, but found they weren't made for it--they never claimed to be gay.


ergo.. experimenting.

In reply to:

As for Bowie, well gee, he said that he was "gay and always has been" while married and expecting a child, so that tells you how much he cared for strict accuracy of terms at the time. (By your own definition, that would make him at most bisexual.)


very bisexual?

In reply to:

Well, that's why most people give up on it then. But really, you can't imagine someone being so seduced by the idea of a particular type of romance that they throw themselves into it hoping it will work, somehow?


nope. have to be turned on by it or i'd find something that would.

In reply to:

But yes, yes, Bowie experimented with his "bi side" and then chose the straight. Because his bi side was like, nearly non-existent when it came to the nitty gritty.


drugs might have helped a little.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 03:08 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: riley]  

I am told that I am a lesbian drag queen.

Feast your gay eyes on this.

riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 03:14 PM
Re: Experimentation new [re: Starlite]  

gay man trapped in a womans body here


for the record.. never said i wasn't bi. just not bi enough.



Marquis
(wise like orangutan)
04/04/07 03:33 PM
Fingercuffs new [re: riley]  

In reply to:

gay man trapped in a womans body here


What, did he try to use that new "Glue-bricant" everyone's talking about?

They let the retard in the game and he went wild.

riley
(crash course raver)
04/04/07 03:41 PM
Re: Fingercuffs new [re: Marquis]  



drastic measures had to be taken -the bitch wouldn't stay put.

Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/04/07 08:07 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

You're all missing the point here: Mika has made a classic album. He's in the same league as Freddie and George.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 09:52 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

The sad thing is, I can't even tell how serious you're being. Partially because Freddie and George are two entirely different registers for me, partly because I haven't actually listened to Mika's whole album, and partially because I have a tendency for quickie infatuations with the most random songs, especially when their singer looks like that.



Vanessa_Y
(cracked actor)
04/04/07 10:25 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

I was trying to recall why the name sounded so familar; I realized I saw on FUSE that he was compared to queen and george micheal.

Never heard him sing but for that clip but it sounded wonderful.

But..the comparisons in themself sound gay, yeah.

http://shynsweetlilme.deviantart.com/

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/04/07 11:52 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Vanessa_Y]  

You know, honestly, he's not even that gay. I seriously don't see it. He's pretty, he's British, he's cheeky and playful, but... I mean, come on. After a few glam rock vids he seems understated, not flamboyant. I'm not saying anything about where my personal gaydar may or may not place him, but I don't quite see what it is that has everyone tripping over themselves to yell "gay gay gay!" at him.



96dbFreak
(acolyte)
04/05/07 03:44 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

I think you need to listen to the album. Some of the lyrics are very revealing. Take Billy Brown, for example:

Oh Billy Brown had lived an ordinary life.
Two kids, a dog, and a cautionary wife.
While it was all going according to plan
Then Billy Brown fell in love with another man.
He met his lover almost every single day
Making excuses through his (dodly) holiday
(Unto religion that he said and duty found
They didn’t know his faith was (earthlic) bound)

Brown…Oh Billy Brown.
Don’t let the stars get you down.
Don’t let the waves let you drown.
Brown…Oh Billy Brown.
Gonna pick you up like a paper cup.
Gonna shake the water out of every nook.
Oh Billy Brown.

Oh Billy Brown needed a place, somewhere to go.
He found an island off the coast of Mexico
Leaving his lover and his family behind.
Oh Billy Brown needed to find some peace of mind.
And on his journey and his travels on the way,
He met a girlie who was brave enough to say,
When they made love he shared the burden of his mind.
Oh Billy Brown you are a victim of the times.

Brown…Oh Billy Brown.
Don’t let the stars get you down.
Don’t let the waves let you drown.
Brown…Oh Billy Brown.
Gonna pick you up like a paper cup.
Gonna shake the water out of every nook.
Oh Billy Brown.
Brown…Oh Billy Brown.
Gonna pick you up like a paper cup.
Gonna shake the water out of every nook.
Oh Billy Brown.

Oh Billy Brown had lived an ordinary life.
Two kids, a dog, and a cautionary wife.
While it was all going according to plan
Then Billy Brown fell in love with another man


_____________________________________________

"You complete me twister!" - Remade/Remodeled


theidiot2
(kook)
04/05/07 04:39 AM
Arbitrary genres new [re: riley]  

In reply to:

very bisexual?


This is the inevitable result of the unreasonable expectation that everything must be classified and slotted into a neat bracket. Are there gradations of bisexuality? These things aren't quantifiable.

Who cares what camp you're in.



As pedantic as WildWind

Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/05/07 04:40 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: 96dbFreak]  

Not to mention that other song in which he advises us all to "suck hard on our lollipops." A Bowie reference?

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/05/07 04:49 AM
Re: Arbitrary genres new [re: theidiot2]  

I think there are gradations and, more importantly, phases. One might feel half-gay for a week, then 200% straight for a month, then 37% gay for a day or two, then all het again...

How do I know all that? A friend told me, of course.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/05/07 05:24 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

The sad thing is, I can't even tell how serious you're being.


Je suis très sérieux. I brought Mika's album with me when I was on holiday last month and I listened to it in the car about 100 times. We're not dealing with quickie infatuations here: this is an album that'll still be in print in 50 years from now.

The Freddie comparison is obvious because of the song Grace Kelly, but there's another song on the album (My interpretation) in which he sounds even more like him. But the good thing about Mika is he has many voices, so when he's too alike another artist, it's only for a line or two.

The George Michael comparison is less obvious, it's probably the song Relax that made me say that: it sounds a lot like some of George's recent stuff, especially Precious Box and Flawless on the last album.

In reply to:

my gaydar


needs fixing. Mika said in a recent interview that "he'd rather not discuss his sexuality with journalists." This is a bit like saying to your colleagues "I went out for dinner with my partner last night." This was also George Michael's strategy for many years: no interviews (and gender neutral songs) but everyone knew what it meant. Mika will come out at some point, believe me, it's just a bit early for him.

And if it turns out that he's one of those disgusting flamboyant hets like Daddy, well, I'll keep on liking his music anyway.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

ladymacbeth
(electric tomato)
04/05/07 07:07 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

I first heard him described as a cross between Freddie and Morrissey, so he got my vote even before I had heard him.

The album is totally brilliant, so uplifting and fun, and the last song is beautifully sad and enchanting (I think it's an extra secret track). Grace Kelly is one of my favourite songs of the year by far.

Live, Mika is amazing. He is beautiful too and a real showman.

I didn't even think about his sexuality when I first saw him. I just knew I fancied him. But then I've always fancied gay men. The first three crushes I remember I ever had were Boy George, Neil Tennant and Indiana Jones (I know he's not gay but I thought I'd mention him anyway in order to balance out my penchant for gay men with an example of macho virility).

Ai wa, kanari itai.
Love really hurts.

ladymacbeth
(electric tomato)
04/05/07 07:09 AM
Sucker! new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

No, it's about his sister. So he's not only homosexual, he's into incest too. Good for him!

Ai wa, kanari itai.
Love really hurts.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/05/07 11:36 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

In reply to:

The George Michael comparison is less obvious


Hahah, dude, I've been reading articles on him for the past two days, and every single one is like "Freddie Mercury, George Michael, Rufus Wainwright." Sometimes when they get ambitious, they'll throw in Prince too, or something. I think they're neglecting Michael Jackson.

In reply to:

I brought Mika's album with me when I was on holiday last month and I listened to it in the car about 100 times. We're not dealing with quickie infatuations here


I am glad, because I've been listening to the songs of his I've downloaded (most of 'em, really) on repeat nonstop over the last 48 hours, and now I really want the album. (His art is so cute!)

In reply to:

needs fixing.


Uh. My gaydar's fine, thankyouverymuch. Again, did I say I thought Mika was straight? What I said was, I don't get what's so over-the-top gay about most of his songs/performanes to the average joe that gets people to yell "queer!" at him. I don't mean reading lyrics and stuff--of course there's Billy Brown, and Grace Kellly is camp and we all know it, and so on, and so on. That's a whole 'nother issue. The people I was talking about are casual observers who've watched a song or two on Youtube. Usually the songs I mean are Grace Kelly and Love Today, neither of which have anything in them like Billy Brown--and the homophobes who yell "gay gay" at him probably don't even know enough gay culture to pick up on some of the more queer aspects of Grace Kelly's lyrics. But anyway, Grace Kelly is still more camp than gay.

I just don't think he's quite as "flaming" or flamboyant or whatnot as everybody seems to be saying he is.

Anyway, I actually don't want Mika to come "out." I quite like his current position. I think I agree with him that he is not hiding anything per se, nor is he shying away from gay subjects. I like this quote of his:
"I say `Have you heard the f---ing album?' There's a song called Billy Brown about a married man who has a homosexual affair and one of my lyrics goes `I tried to be like Grace Kelly'. If I was worried about sexual taboos I certainly wouldn't have made the record I made. It has nothing to do with that. It has more to do with self-respect."

He's really a pretty private person. All his interviews are also scripted--he gives the same responses each time, word for word. He obviously does not want to reveal too much of his personal or private life: he's calculated how much he will say about any subject, and tends to stick to that.

I've actually always thought that it's weird how we demand that we know about our musicians', etc, sexual lives. Some people love to put themselves out as a public figure and then maybe it's different, but musicians more than movie stars right now are people who practice a craft, and their music is their work, and they give us that craft, and that's it. And I don't actually think that one's sexual orientation--or sex life--is any of people's business at work.

This is why, for instance, when I talk about queer issues in most classes, I tend to talk of them in the abstract, and why I have my facebook privacy settings so that faculty can't access my profile, specifically because my sexual orientation is in fact stated there. A classmate actually asked me why I did that, and why I wasn't "out," and I told him it wasn't a question of being out--I had no shame or issues with that, I mean, had he heard me talk in class? I bring up queer issues all the time! I'm not exactly keeping it a secret. But it was a question of simple privacy. It's not the faculty's business who I'm looking for or sleeping with, whatever their gender, and I prefer not to make it known.

Which is basically exactly what Mika said, isn't it? So I <3 him.

Plus he is also trying to make mass-appeal pop, so it makes sense that he doesn't sing to a particular gender.



Starlite
(acolyte)
04/05/07 11:38 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: ladymacbeth]  

In reply to:

Live, Mika is amazing. He is beautiful too and a real showman.


Grr, I'm jealous of you, english lady. I discovered who he was 3 days after he was in NY performing, and then he promptly left the country. Dammit.



Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/05/07 12:12 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

On the whole, he sounds maybe more like the Bee Gees than like Freddie and George. But it's a comparison I have yet to hear.

I don't think anyone can write a song like Billy Brown without being at least a little bit gay, but like you I don't really care what my favourite songwriters do in their bedrooms. It's nice to know a few things about their lives, but what's important is they keep making good records (and Freddie has disappointed me a bit of late I must say). After all they tell a lot about themselves in songs already, so why should they tell more in interviews?

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/05/07 12:51 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

In reply to:

On the whole, he sounds maybe more like the Bee Gees than like Freddie and George. But it's a comparison I have yet to hear.


I live to serve.

Scott-O-Rama mentioned a new album out by Mika. You can listen to it free HERE for a limited time. It is really good. Kind of like the Beatles meet the Bee Gees meet today’s pop…..

http://www.scott-o-rama.com/2007/03/27/listen-to-mikas-full-album-online-for-free/

"Love Today" is the missing link between the Bee Gees and Village People and "Relax, Take It Easy" is a chilled Pet Shop Boys in gold lamé.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Cartoon-Motion-Mika/dp/B000M2E2QY

Born in Beirut and brought up on a cocktail of Serge Gainsbourg, Elton John and Bob Dylan, Mika's sound is beyond unique. Think Bee Gees mixed with Freddy Mercury, a dusting of Dexy's Midnight Runners and you're still only halfway there!

http://uk.launch.yahoo.com/mika/

Question: what do you get when you cross the baroque art rock of Queen with the pop smarts of George Michael and add a spoonful of Bee Gees? Answer: you get latest U.K. pop sensation Mika.

http://www.evolutionofmedia.com/review.asp?id=591&order=Mika&style=Pop


I swear, there isn't anyone he hasn't been compared to. (Including Bowie.)



Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/05/07 01:01 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Wow, you're the Google Queen! Has he been called a mix of Thelonious Monk and Gary Numan yet? I wouldn't be surprised.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

96dbFreak
(acolyte)
04/05/07 08:31 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

His full given name is Michael, and his nickname is Mica, which he turned into Mika for a stagename.


It occurs to me that since he pronounces it "Mike-A" (or possibly "Meek-A") he might have changed it (or been encouraged to change it) to avoid confusion with British soul singer and lifestyle media 'personality' Mica Paris whose name is pronounced "Mee-sha" '

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Starlite
(acolyte)
04/06/07 02:25 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: 96dbFreak]  

He pronounces it Mee-ka, and he actually changed it from Mica because he said people kept getting it wrong. (I guess they were calling him My-ka, maybe?)

Oh! On the subject of his privacy and all the other speculations related to that: there's an interview with him here, where he is asked to tell the background info on some of his songs. There is one song out of the batch that, according to the interviewer, Mika did not want to discuss ("Mika wanted the story of this song kept a secret").

It is pretty obvious why, because it is about family issues that I should think he wouldn't exactly like to air beyond what's already in the lyrics. But, here is a sample of some of the lyrics:


Oh, oh, oh - Is there anybody home?
Who will believe me, won't deceive me, won't try to change me?

I look at you,
You look at me,
We bite each other.
And with your bitter words you kick me in the gutter.

Ours is a family that's based upon tradition
But with my careless words I tread upon your vision.

This is who I am,
This ain't a greater plan to break your heart of me.

Ah, ah, ah - Is there anybody home?
Who wants to have me, just to love me?


It could easily be about something else entirely, of course, but still.



Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/06/07 04:34 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Because he's gay.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/06/07 06:03 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

What are you talking about?



Can't a boy hang out with Perez Hilton and stab phallic baloons into his chest without being accused of being gay nowadays?!




Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/06/07 06:39 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Not to mention this (Mika was in the limo, I was told):



There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/06/07 06:57 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

Ewww. Don't make me think of that.




Much better.



Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/06/07 07:59 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Too late.



There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/06/07 08:52 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Froggy Starlust]  

Well, that doesn't even have to do with anything!

By the way, Mika did a live-broadcast concert on msn video tonight. People should watch it.



Um, this link takes you to "My Interpretation," because I feel like it. It's easy enough to navigate to the beginning if one so wishes anyway.

Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/06/07 09:03 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Yes, it does. Mika wrote Big Girl as a tribute to Divine. Check your facts, dyke.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

KAdministrator
(thunder ocean)
04/07/07 05:29 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Well, I catched Mika's Grace Kelly video on The Voice (local music channel) twice yesterday, by the virtue that the song was #5 on the official download list.

I must say I wasn't terribly impressed... the song was uninteresting, Mike himself isn't particularly attractive in my opinion (and based on the vid he has no fashion sense) and his vocals mostly sounded like a watered-down version of Klaus Nomi. That said, the video itself was a refreshing change from all the videos with black women shaking their arses, which is what 99% of music videos seem to consist of these days.

Oh yeah, and from the Finnish point of view Mika pronounces his name wrong.

"I do not remember seeing a too narrow trachea on a cat, but I'm sure they can be bred to have them."
- Marjatta Snellman, professor of clinical veterinary medicine

FredPhelps
(wild eyed peoploid)
04/07/07 05:48 AM
MIKA'S A FAG AND K'S HIS SODOMITE WHORE new [re: K]  

In reply to:

K


Fags are infiltrating everywhere!


godhatesfags.com

Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/07/07 07:26 AM
Re: Too bad he gives repetitive interviews new [re: Strawman]  

In reply to:

I've always believed that Bowie is straight, but there's been times I've wondered.


Some mighty gay steps, indeed.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/07/07 06:46 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

I think we deserve an admin who knows his irregular verbs.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/08/07 05:11 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

Whatever! He is fabulous, and his awful fashion sense is one of the best things about him.

(He tends to look different live than in that vid, though. They put a ton o' makeup on him there or something. Check the last link I posted.)

Anyway, Tony Visconti told me he liked him yesterday, and perhaps he was just being polite, but still. Plus, Sys, you hate "Hunky Dory." Also, this guy said Mika was "wonderful," and he was awesome and liked my clothes, so in my opinion that carries little more weight, don't you think?



Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/08/07 05:40 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

Racist.

Please visit my Message Board so I can ban you.

KAdministrator
(thunder ocean)
04/08/07 07:35 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Did I ever mention I'm part-Jewish myself?

"I do not remember seeing a too narrow trachea on a cat, but I'm sure they can be bred to have them."
- Marjatta Snellman, professor of clinical veterinary medicine

Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/08/07 07:59 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

Sorry to hear/read that.

Please visit my Message Board so I can ban you.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/08/07 08:17 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

Wait, when were we talking about anything Jewish?

Or were you making a joke, like, "I can't be homophobic, I'm part Native American!"?



Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/08/07 08:51 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

"I can't be homophobic, I'm part Native American!"


That's certainly my angle.

Please visit my Message Board so I can ban you.

JonnyManic
(acolyte)
04/08/07 09:00 PM
Mika Mouse new [re: Starlite]  

Mika's an interesting phenomenon - a perfectly marketed pop package, camp but not threatening. He's being pitched as a solo Scissor Sister but with the eccentric lyricism of other pop-types like Shakira.

Alas, his music is shit and his vocals are nauseatingly bad.

"The challenge of modernity is to live without illusions and without becoming disillusioned" - Antonio Gramsci


Starlite
(acolyte)
04/08/07 10:29 PM
Re: Mika Mouse new [re: JonnyManic]  

Ah, but you see, I like Shakira. She is also a cutie (well, when she isn't doing weird things to her hair).

The fact that I've been listening to Mika's album nonstop for the last 3 days aside, I would say he's rather like Alphaville. I definitely enjoy their music, but whether it's good or not is another question entirely.

Though Mika is better.

Because he's Mika. (And because, no, seriously, "Grace Kelly" is an awesome song. And "Stuck in the Middle" too.)




Vanessa_Y
(cracked actor)
04/09/07 02:17 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Yeah..and besides we've seen Bowie in crazier getups than that. One that comes to mind is the video for Rebel Rebel.

Though I am gonna have to look more into this Mika guy.

http://shynsweetlilme.deviantart.com/

KAdministrator
(thunder ocean)
04/09/07 05:09 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

Wait, when were we talking about anything Jewish?


Earlier in the thread you were talking about Mika being half Jewish. I presumed Monkeyboy's comment was in reference to that. Not that I'd know what goes on in the mind of a genious like Monkeyboy.

"I do not remember seeing a too narrow trachea on a cat, but I'm sure they can be bred to have them."
- Marjatta Snellman, professor of clinical veterinary medicine

96dbFreak
(acolyte)
04/09/07 05:16 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

In reply to:

Earlier in the thread you were talking about Mika being half Jewish.


His mother's Lebanese and his father is American (whatever that means). Since Jewishness is only passed through the female line, Mika is not Jewish or half Jewish.

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Starlite
(acolyte)
04/09/07 05:40 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: 96dbFreak]  

He's also not half Jewish because even if his Mom weren't Lebanese, his dad isn't Jewish either.

In reply to:

Earlier in the thread you were talking about Mika being half Jewish. I presumed Monkeyboy's comment was in reference to that.



I would say Monkeyboy was referring to the "black women shaking their arses" part, not the part where you said Mika isn't hot. I know it can all get a bit confusing, but that might just be it.

Though come on, if you don't think he's hot, you're obviously a racist.



...I have those socks. We're clearly meant to be.

Edited by Starlite on 04/09/07 07:04 AM (server time).



96dbFreak
(acolyte)
04/09/07 05:59 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

...not the part where you said Mika isn't hot


I didn't say he wasn't hot. I imagine his temperature is a regular 98.6 degrees fahrenheit or 37.0 degrees celsius just like everyone else's.

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Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/09/07 06:28 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: 96dbFreak]  

In reply to:

I didn't say he wasn't hot. I imagine his temperature is a regular 98.6 degrees fahrenheit or 37.0 degrees celsius just like everyone else's.




Please visit my Message Board so I can ban you.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/09/07 07:03 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: 96dbFreak]  

...that was me replying to Sys, Stu.

You know, his comment right above yours, that you replied to yourself?

I've edited now for clarity.

In reply to:

I imagine his temperature is a regular 98.6 degrees fahrenheit or 37.0 degrees celsius just like everyone else's.


Actually Perez Hilton, who watches Mika's every footstep more carefully than I do, said that Mika was recently sick with the flu. So if he still has any of that hanging around, he is significantly hotter than that.



They're BFF.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/09/07 10:22 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Oh, and btw--so everyone keeps saying that Mika is like Freddie Mercury reincarnated (you don't have to agree, I'm just relating what people are saying), but here's a comparison I haven't yet seen made:

Mika:


Syd Barrett:



Y/Y?



Froggy Starlust
(acolyte)
04/09/07 06:47 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Freddie died when Mika was 8, so it's impossible.

There is so much to be ungrateful for.

KAdministrator
(thunder ocean)
04/09/07 08:59 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

He's also not half Jewish because even if his Mom weren't Lebanese, his dad isn't Jewish either.


That was never made evident in the earlier part of the thread, the impression I got from there is that he's half-Lebanese and half Jewish. Wish would certainly be odd, but not impossible.

But regardless of that, he's still not hot. Cute, yes, but certainly not "hot".

And for the record, I've nothing against black women shaking their arses (or women of any other colourfor that matetr). I'm just bored with that concept since every music video seems to feature it these days.

"I do not remember seeing a too narrow trachea on a cat, but I'm sure they can be bred to have them."
- Marjatta Snellman, professor of clinical veterinary medicine

96dbFreak
(acolyte)
04/09/07 09:10 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

In reply to:

...the impression I got from there is that he's half-Lebanese and half Jewish


Where, exactly?

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KAdministrator
(thunder ocean)
04/09/07 09:21 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: 96dbFreak]  

First three posts of this thread. Monkeyboy says Mika looks Jewish, to which Starlite replies that he's actually half Lebanese, giving the impression he's half Lebanese and half Jeiwsh since no-one mentions that the non-Lebanese half is USAnian.

"I do not remember seeing a too narrow trachea on a cat, but I'm sure they can be bred to have them."
- Marjatta Snellman, professor of clinical veterinary medicine

96dbFreak
(acolyte)
04/09/07 09:25 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

And you can't see my post that says "He's not a Jew he's a Lebo."?

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KAdministrator
(thunder ocean)
04/09/07 11:36 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: 96dbFreak]  

No.

"I do not remember seeing a too narrow trachea on a cat, but I'm sure they can be bred to have them."
- Marjatta Snellman, professor of clinical veterinary medicine

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/10/07 02:49 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

In reply to:

But regardless of that, he's still not hot. Cute, yes, but certainly not "hot".


I guess to me, cute is hot. I mean, I also go for younger guys and find childishness/boyishness/playfulness and sillyness a turn-on.

But I think he's pretty hot in the photo with the heart and the girl.



Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/10/07 07:06 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: K]  

In reply to:

Not that I'd know what goes on in the mind of a genious like Monkeyboy.


It's just staggeringly brilliant, the dick jokes I can come up with.

Please visit my Message Board so I can ban you.

Starlite
(acolyte)
04/10/07 07:12 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Monkeyboy]  

You have my full enthusiasm if you want to keep them on-topic...



Starlite
(acolyte)
04/12/07 07:22 AM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Okay, so are you guys sick of my Mika obsession yet?

You probably are, but whatever. This little 2-minute video is adorable.



Starlite
(acolyte)
05/15/07 07:44 PM
Re: MIKA new [re: Starlite]  

Ok, ok I know you couldn't care less about this, but whatever. Omg, Mika's unreleased demos/studio outtakes are so good. "Instant Martyr," wow. Too bad no-one gets to hear them (probably because some of them sound way too much like Queen).

Also, he performed wearing a chicken suit the other day. I may be in love.

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