Though I have been on this board since June of last year (and a member of BowieWonderWorld on which I have defended TW many times), I just became a registered member here. I was just wondering how long exactly you are considered a "newbie," and how long they have to endure the abuse from the other members - and is it really worth it?

You're a newbie until people forget that there was a time before you were here, or until you have been here long enough that they don't care. Making posts that bring attention to the fact that you are a newbie (as if "absolute beginner" weren't enough) doesn't help the situation. Just hang in there and if you make it, you make it. We all go through.

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

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I was just wondering how long exactly you are considered a "newbie"

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No one cares.

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There's no definite timeframe, it all depends on you. You start with a 'hello' thread, meaning you've probably got about a week's worth of abuse coming. Beyond that, if you don't post like an idiot, no one will treat you like one. If you post like Diamonddogz, no volume of postings will halt our collective wrath. Basically, we're too disorganized for formal hazing.

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Clearly.

How'd we get here so fast?
Hold me closer than that

You are legally a newbie as long as you behave as you are totally clueless. Good ways of attracting the wrath of others are posting "How do I use the search function" in Coffee shop, posting a new thread on the theme "What is Bowie's worst song", or reacting with exaggerated anger against everyone who voices differing opinions from yours. Act responsibly and with some common sense and nobody will attack you just because you are new.

-Midget! Crapper!

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It will probably take several years to work out the finer details. It's good that you've been watching from the sidelines for a few months, but the 'posting' experience is quite a bit different from the 'viewing' experience (i.e. it's usually worse).

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Some tips here. If you want to avoid conflicts, try to stay out of discussions on board etiquette and politics, bearing in mind that some grudges go back several years. But getting embroiled in Phoenix's 'diamondogz74 thread' isn't a good idea if you don't want to be pigeonholed.

Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread

Thanks, muchly.

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Thanks, muchly.

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Stop being such a tool.

I mentioned Bowie in this post
Monkeyboy for America
Dedicated to making pay and play politics work for once.

You might also want to take the abusive comments of certain posters with a grain of salt. Wait until it's obviously personal before you assume that it might be. We like to joust around here and some of us see newbies as the new team mate in the locker room who deserves a few extra towel snaps. It shows us what you're made of, if you will.

I mentioned Bowie in this post
Monkeyboy for America
Dedicated to making pay and play politics work for once.

You know you're no longer a TW newbie when you (tick all that apply):

- have slept with Monkeyboy
- have had a blow-job from Beltene
- have married anisette
- have out-drunk WildWind
- have been insulted by p2c and/or Marquis and/or Monkeboy and/or me and/or Strawman and/or Shyster at least once (and insulted back in equal measure)
- think you've figured out who Shyster is and posted your suspicion on the board
- have figured out who Dr Evil is
- have figured out which alter-egos are Evan's
- have replied to one of your own posts with at least one of your own alter-egos
- have bozoed someone
- have been bozoed
- have at least contemplated an emotional leaving thread
- have had threads, from others, aimed at making you leave
- have created at least 5 polls, at least one of which is now legendary
- have been a prime partcipant in an epic thread/a famous thread
- are referred to by other posters knowingly for...something
- think of a better name than some stupid Gunners reference
- have had a go at Australians/Americans/the British/the English/the Israelis/the Arab world (circle any that apply)
- have tried to bring peace and harmony to warring factions (but failed miserably)
- have given up trying to be a peacemaker and become cynical and manipulative
- know Earl Slick's inside leg measurement, the name of Trevor Boulder's dog and how many croissants, and from which Manhattan deli, Bowie has for breakfast
- have met, been out drinking/taking drugs with at least 5 other TW'ers
- have told someone a secret in a PM, only to have it broadcast all over the internet
- no longer feel the need to hide your profile

Stu
Get Bowie Back Downunder
The GBBD 2005 campaign starts here!

After a good while of blundering about TW, it has recently come to my attention that I am considered by some as a "respectable poster." Nothing has been as surprising to me, since I tend to see myself as an eternal newbie of sorts. But I guess now that I'm a stardust savant, I have some solid claim to full membership.

Anyway, the newbie question is very fascinating, because it has a unique problematic. The social status structure of TW is fairly easily perceived by newbies--after a few weeks, they can tell who's in which clique, and the rankings of these cliques, etc. They can differentiate the "elite" posters from the general mass, and are often intimidated by them. However, by the time you have, in one way or another, managed to infiltrate any of these cliques, and befriend the "elite" posters (often achieving the same status by association), there occurs the interesting side effect of now being unable to perceive these divisions. Suddenly, you see what the "elite posters" were talking about when they pooh-poohed the idea of "cliques" and such--because inside the clique, there's no self-consciousness of being a "clique." You're just friends! Plus what the newbies construe as older posters disdaining newer ones is often really simple indifference. Monkeyboy doesn't remember that time he called you a 'loid, even if you do. Marquis doesn't keep track of all the labygirls he's given a tongue-whipping to.

Anyway, whoever said that you stop being a newbie when people forget what it was like before you were here is right. That depends on each poster, of course. White Prism, for instance, rose quite quickly through the ranks, by postiung frequently, and posting well. It's good to start off strong, and make sure your posts have substance, so that we can respect you.

When you are accepted, then you can make posts about your favorite celebrity's underwear, or which underage starlet you'd like to sleep with.

The Most Important Rule of TW is, as someone else said, not to take things personally. People will insult you. Take it in good stride! You can insult them back, but only so long as you keep it in perspective. If it's obvious from your comeback that you were really hurt by the original insult, we'll just make fun of you more. Everything's a game of mockery. It's good to embrace it. Be careful with your insults, though. With some particularly well-known posters, it's good not to try to fight back until you're better-established yourself. Instead, accept their jibes with good grace. Love the hand that slaps you, etc. Have a sense of humour.

(Corollary of The Most Important Rule: Everything that is said is said as a joke, or "in good humor." Everything. A good example is Phoenix's thread about ddz74. Sure, wishing cancer on his mother was tasteless, but that still fits into the corollary.)

The easiest way to fit in, though, that I've seen, is to make friends with the better-established posters here. Which you'll probably do through PMs and off-board chat, not sucking up through the MB. That's just tacky.

Gods, no-one wanted to read all that. Oh well. I finished my thesis, so I'm free to ramble!

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

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Gods, no-one wanted to read all that. Oh well. I finished my thesis, so I'm free to ramble!

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I read it, and I did want to read it, too.

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At twenty-nine years of age I have exhausted everything. It only remains for me to become a complete egoist. - Napoleon

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It’s interesting you should refer to your title, since several people on this thread have downplayed the notion that posters inherently have a claim to power that comes with their ‘rank’. I think it tends to be something that largely goes unspoken, though Starlite is clearly part of a fascist clique that demotes the opinions of less regular posters, even though they may have frequented the boards more often than herself. Personally I’m not keen on the ‘titles system’ – indeed I think it was BFP who argued for its removal quite a while ago – because it promotes asinine comments like, uh, this, and encourages chatty, one-line posts to reach the elusive 5,000 post goal in quicker time. I mean, there are even some posters who will engage in humourless duals with diamondogz74 which they secretly hope will go on forever so to rack up shitloads of posts in no time at all!

What many Stardust Savants fail to recognise in criticising newbies is that they, themselves, are failing to produce posts of a consistent quality that are enlightening and entertaining to read. When they eventually reach the state of disillusionment and cynicism, they believe that their status of a ‘good’ poster is assured no matter what they do, and will pass off any old shit in the belief that it’s interesting to the similarly crestfallen members in their clique (who, in all likelihood will never read it because they’re now experimenting in cybersex with prepubescents picked up from a Busted site). If newbies were to simply recognise that most of the old guard are struggling, dissatisfied dinosaurs who are but a shadow of their former selves, then they’d have plenty of ammunition to hurl back at them. Simply mention to Monkeyboy that his posts are washed up, mechanical rebuttals with jokes he’s recycled several hundred times already (SweetchildGNR, you’re entitled to be brutally honest ) and you’re bound to piss him off no end.

We’d hate to prattle on about this subject since there are far better things we could be doing than typing these highly informative, well-researched musings – in fact, I’ve been intending to paint the fence outside for several months already – but Starlite is completely wrong when she says that newbies can identify cliques after a few weeks, not least because several posters disappear for months at a time and some (conniving little shits that they are) even post sarcastic messages to throw other people into confusion and to stir trouble between others! Needless to say, Starlite is one of those struggling posters/trouble-makers, though she’s obviously correct when she says that I’m an excellent poster.

Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread

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Marquis doesn't keep track of all the labygirls he's given a tongue-whipping to.

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That's certainly one reason to loiter at the conventions...

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Simply mention to Monkeyboy that his posts are washed up, mechanical rebuttals with jokes he’s recycled several hundred times already (SweetchildGNR, you’re entitled to be brutally honest ) and you’re bound to piss him off no end.

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You fucking jackass! Don't let that secret out so quickly! It takes years and months of frequent posting for people to discover that, but here you go just letting it all out.

What about the people who had to sit and put up with years of my recycled insults before they discovered that? How fair is this to them?

And I'm not repetitive. All of my jokes are highly original. Which is why you should vote for me as President again in 2004. Oh, yeah retards are funny and here's a kitten:



I mentioned Bowie in this post
Monkeyboy for America
Dedicated to making pay and play politics work for once.

I'm sold, Monkeyboy for TW President.

This remark might have a hint of irony in it, or it may not.

Avatar courtesy of Nature_Boy

Monkeyboy for TW Dictator.

I'll be appearing LIVE in London May 14th. Sure, it's a David Bowie show but you're all coming to see me. More importantly, you're coming to see me in my awesome new pants.

President...dictator...fuck all that. I'm going for Messiah.

I mentioned Bowie in this post
Monkeyboy for America
Dedicated to making pay and play politics work for once.

I don't care if you are not, darling White Prism, but I'll play the straight man (ha ha), and clarify that I tossed the "stardust savant" card out there as a self-conscious nod to the ranking system that does, whether merited or not, exist.

Of course volume doesn't mean quality--ddz74 is a "savant" too, but no-one considers him to be a top poster. And I was going to mention you as an example of a good poster with a lower post count, but now I obviously won't.

I also don't get how being sarcastic could confuse anyone other than TJ.

And finally, you are a Socratic asshole.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

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Actually, he's an Acolyte now. It won't be long before he has his own title, though hopefully the moderators will give him something befitting his status. I'm thinking something along the lines of "now with 10% fewer fleas". There's probably a thread there.

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It is quite easy to do, although it depends on the poster and the context. Or were you being sarcastic?

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(monkeyboy) You fucking jackass! Don't let that secret out so quickly! It takes years and months of frequent posting for people to discover that, but here you go just letting it all out.

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Yeah, the other unwritten rule is that newbies never read further than the first sentence of any given post, so technically that information was well-concealed in the verbiage of a bulky paragraph. Of course I’d vote for you for President, if I weren’t running myself. Still, I find it amusing that you of all people are the one who’s constantly criticised for lowering his standards, when obviously the problem lies more with, uh . . .

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(starlite) I don't care if you are not, darling White Prism, but I'll play the straight man (ha ha), and clarify that I tossed the "stardust savant" card out there as a self-conscious nod to the ranking system that does, whether merited or not, exist.

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Of course I’m being serious – what are you, illiterate or something? What's worse is that you’re responsible for the perpetuation of a hierachy by ‘just trying to stack up posts’ in the belief that your ‘stardust’ title would be empowering. Well, you’ve just been revealed as a duplicitous and shitty poster yourself and are in no position to condemn the likes of diamondog74 and karmastarman,* when the truth is that if we were to strip away all of your posts of similar content, you’d still be a Mortal With Potential. Maybe a little more factual content and a little less Marc fangirliness is in order if you want to enter the 'Genuine TW Elite’, yea?

*this is not a go-ahead to post, you flagrant tossers.

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And close your eyes with holy dread

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(Corollary of The Most Important Rule: Everything that is said is said as a joke, or "in good humor." Everything. A good example is Phoenix's thread about ddz74. Sure, wishing cancer on his mother was tasteless, but that still fits into the corollary.)

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Corollary my foot, bad is bad is bad

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That's what you think, #177.

Seriously though, do I really come off as a tongue-lasher? Dara seemed to think so, too. I certainly don't shy away from lyrical beatdowns on those who deserve it (NoControl, the ghost of TJ), but in my own mind I'm much less a hard-ass than this reputation would have you believe.

Then again, I'm probably thinking of my illustrious past; now I'm just cantankerous and dull, since every 10th post is about how I'm cantankerous and dull.

So in the interest of being more positive, I'll try to come back in a few hours and post some preliminary thoughts on the new Magnetic Fields album. I'm sure it will be good, aren't you?

Edit: Well someone fucked up, so I don't get to hear "I" until tomorrow. Then, though, I promise a whole big rundown on recent music that everyone will ignore because they're too busy thinking Placebo doesn't suck.

How'd we get here so fast?
Hold me closer than that

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Oh yes, even if it were. :-P

White Prism is giving a lovely example of it: how sad that it's not funny for anyone except himself. But still, yes, humorous.

Aww, Marquis, I'm blushing. You gave me a number and everything?

You don't usually come off as all that strident, but every so often you do deliver a well-deserved tongue lashing. They are just memorable enough to color one's perception of you (because they are so well-deserved).

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

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I was lucky enough to get to hear most of the tracks of the new album at a concert they did a few weeks back and I will beat you to the punch...I Fucking rocks! It's no 69 Love Songs, but Merritt again displays his mastery for the well-constructed pop song, while maintaining his intellectual genius by paying homage to such genres as opera. The highlights are "I Wish I Had an Evil Twin" (perhaps his wittiest song yet), "It's Only Time," and "In an Operetta." I downloaded the album after the concert (you know me, I'm the one the RIAA cracked down on for sharing little album called Reality with a few thousand online friends) but plan on supporting the band soon with a legitimate purchase of the album. They made a few derogatory comments live toward "file sharers" and "song thieves."

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

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As it turns out, I was able to get a few copies shipped up here from the downtown store just in time for me to give it a listen last night. Well, tried to anyway. I was only on about track 3 when I was cornered by some old professorial type who tried repeatedly to engage me in a conversation about the lack of politics in contemporary folk music, a topic which holds almost no interest to me. Really, who cares about some band from the 'Ithaca Scene' (it needs one?) who are the Dead's chosen heirs? No one. I told him to either buy a copy of Trans Am's 'Liberation' or get the fuck into hip hop, cause no one with an acoustic guitar can be bothered to give a fuck about politics.

But I digress.

What I managed to pay attention to sounded promising, though without the length of three discs at his back, I'm sure Merritt's impact is a little dulled. Mostly I'm miffed at them for leaving Merge records (see my unheralded rant here) for Nonesuch. I mean, who's gonna fill out those end of the year compilations now? Superchunk?

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I am pleased at the move, because now he and Laurie Anderson will be on NoneSuch's comps together, and that's nice.

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

Except does Nonesuch release compilations? I can't find any. Merritt, Laurie Anderson, David Byrne, and the Kronos Quartet would make an interesting mix, though.

Boy is today pointless.

How'd we get here so fast?
Hold me closer than that

There was one a few months back that Uncut magazine put together with a bunch of unreleased tracks from all their major artists. Sadly I didn't find out about it in time. I might need to take a trip to Rebel Rebel. They usually have back issues. Other than that, though, I don't know of any other compilations they've done. But the prospect is there, and that's at least nice.

We are so off topic.

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

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Still, I find it amusing that you of all people are the one who’s constantly criticised for lowering his standards

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The oddest thing about that is I have absolutely no standard to begin with. I'm the guy who posts kitten pictures and threads about celebrity fights, for fuck sake.

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Don't let that secret out so quickly!

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It's no secret.

Here's a kitty for you too. It's attached, because I'm too much a dumb fuck to know the art of putting images in my posts.

I'm an alligator, I'm a mama-papa comin for you, I'm a space invador, I'll be a rock n' rollin bitch for you. I'm a west coast struttin, one bad mother, got a rattle snake suitcase under my arm.

That's one shitty cat!

Sorry, someone had to say it and like monsieur Moqito, I never had any standards to begin with. One thing really bugs me though, did Bowie really suffer from dysentery?

I'd love to be like me
If I could feel like you
Give your children a brighter future, bozo Diamondogz74 today! 27 bozos and counting!

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If not him, then some of his sidemen for sure.


My lovers never leave, you know.

Sorry for bringing this back again but nobody did answer Shyster's question properly. It just popped to my head when I was listening to Fall dog bombs the moon and the line "i'm an exploding man" came up. I know this belongs to interpretation forum but do you think that "exploding" could refer to a particularly volatile case of dysentery and more importantly, is Bowie somehow connected to tubgirl?

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If I could feel like you
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Immortalised beauty. And just a little sick, but, Bowie knows his internet.

" I'm looking for backing for an unauthorized auto-biography that I am writing. Hopefully, this will sell in such huge numbers that I will be able to sue myself for an extraordinary amount of money"- David Bowie

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It just popped to my head when I was listening to Fall dog bombs the moon and the line "i'm an exploding man" came up. I know this belongs to interpretation forum but do you think that "exploding" could refer to a particularly volatile case of dysentery and more importantly, is Bowie somehow connected to tubgirl?

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Excellent insight. I'm inclined to say that you are on the right track. If we're lucky, SaiIor will take some time from his busy schedule to address this issue himself.

Clap your hands if you believe...


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That was really uncalled for. I'm hurt that you would make such a sick joke out of my love for sharing the joy and goodness that is the wonderful world of kittens. Only kittens, though. When they get older they tend to be nasty and significantly less cute.

Take, for example this sorry excuse for a pet and just look at its grumpy fucking disposition. The fucking bitch doesn't even seem to see the inherent cuteness in a cat wearing a nice hat.



The fucking spoilsport. I hope its owners are Korean.

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There was one a few months back that Uncut magazine put together with a bunch of unreleased tracks from all their major artists.

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Oh yeah, I knew I'd heard of Nonesuch somewhere before (and not just the XTC album) - I got that Uncut a few weeks ago (we always get them late being at the arse-end of the universe). It's good.

Stu
Get Bowie Back Downunder
The GBBD 2005 campaign starts here!

Contrary to what White Prism seems to be implying, I did not start that thread just to rack up my post count. Hel, I would've been fine with not getting any posts in a thread like that counted at all. Maybe the mods can create a folder where certain types of threads don't have post counts. Anyway, I have no ambition to join any elite clique, and I don't get on the computer often enough to rack up my post count. I too, prefer quality over quantity.

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Actually, he's an Acolyte now. It won't be long before he has his own title, though hopefully the moderators will give him something befitting his status. I'm thinking something along the lines of "now with 10% fewer fleas". There's probably a thread there.

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NOT! good enough, i demand a 1lb of fleas.

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What many Stardust Savants fail to recognise in criticising newbies is that they, themselves, are failing to produce posts of a consistent quality that are enlightening and entertaining to read.

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Are you insinuating by this that the friggin "Electric Tomatoes" (which I named back in the golden years before Evan deserted us in search of bluer pastures) ARE producing entertaining and enlightening posts? I think not.


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before Evan deserted us in search of bluer pastures

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Someone needs to water their grass...

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in search of bluer pastures

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Are you insinuating that Evan works for IBM?

Stu
Get Bowie Back Downunder
The GBBD 2005 campaign starts here!

LOL! ET must be feeling blue not to hang around here with us.

And dukewhite, I prefer my grass..... smoked


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Are you insinuating by this that the friggin "Electric Tomatoes" (which I named back in the golden years before Evan deserted us in search of bluer pastures) ARE producing entertaining and enlightening posts? I think not.

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SLC, I don’t believe you’re considering my post seriously enough. I was not arguing that Electric Tomatoes were any better or worse than Stardust Savants, only that the ‘title system’ imposes an artificial distinction which unfairly makes posters of a certain rank synonymous with a certain quality of posting. For your information, there are a number of Electric Tomatoes who make insightful or humorous contributions to the board:

Soho_beatnik
Dan Dare
Guilt_puppy
Grey_Nihilist
Real_Thing
Nature_boy
Yours Truly

Now, there are probably two or three times as many Stardust Savants who are equally entertaining, but it’s worth remembering that the criteria for Savant-hood is somewhere between 1,600-2,500 posts; three times the 300 post span of an Electric Tomato. Similarly, just as there is the odd Savant-or-above who you’ll consider an annoying pest, the same can be said for Tomatoes: e.g. Frank Solo, whose ‘nonsense threads’ attracted dozens of worthless replies; and Beltene, whose recent repetitious threads about the female anatomy were (quite rightly) deleted by the mods.

Although I wasn’t aware of this until your last reply, I’m alarmed by your participation in devising ranking system. Surely you knew when you came up with your suggestion that it would enforce a caste system and cause much needless heartache for posters on either side of the spectrum. The only reason why anyone would want to participate in such a scheme is to empower themselves through posting poorly and regularly, so they could rest on the laurels of their Savant title, and get away with not putting in the effort to create worthwhile posts. What you have created in fact is not only a form of insidious elitism, but a kind of ‘posting fascism’ which promotes wilful discrimination against posters of a ‘lesser rank’.

I believe that the only way to rectify the problem is that all Savants should be stripped of their titles and restart their posting careers as Absolute Beginners.


Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread

White Prism, obviously I'm not taking this seriously enough, or some is taking it all way too seriously

Having been here a while, I have never thought of the ranking system in regard to the quality of posts. That Alexandah dick very quickly went up the ranks with absolutely nothing decent to say to anybody. No quality there, just stupidity. One of the best quality posters that still comes to mind (Alice-Falls) is possibly only just an electric tomato. Quality - not quantity all the way.

Can I please point out that I did not take part in setting up any ranking system.... the ranking system was already in place, but in the early days a few of us came up with Bowie-related names to make it fun.

This is not the only MB I participate in with titles for number of posts.... but it IS the only MB where it is dissected and discussed and dissed to death


Get Bowie Back Downunder!
GBBD 2005 !!!!

I prefer quality over quantity... if only the same could be said of DD74.

"I can meet destiny and fate with courage; and unless I change, I shall very soon not move out of the way of a carriage." Napoleon.

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White Prism, obviously I'm not taking this seriously enough, or some is taking it all way too seriously.

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That's okay. I was just making sure. We seem to agree on the main points; I just wanted to point out that the argument 'Stardust Savants are better' or even 'generally better' isn't necessarily true. Similarly, everyone, regardless of rank, should be subject to criticism. Though I admit I remain just a bit curious over exactly how the title system influences certain peoples' posting style.

Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread

Where and when did anyone say that Stardust Savants were by their nature better? Gods, ddz is an acolyte.

I think everyone knows that in the end, qulaity is far more important than quantity. Especially with multiple-replies. There, quantity is a major drawback.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

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Gods, ddz is an acolyte.

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No, but ddz is not typical of an acolyte's style of posting. I made it perfectly clear I was talking in general terms.

Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread

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I'm thinking something along the lines of "now with 10% fewer fleas".

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I have heard rumours about "pity the fool" as dd74's possible custom made title.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'

Of course, we could just kill him before he reaches that point.

I Don't Believe In Triangles

Sounds like a solid plan to me. I know that Strawman would like to handle the prestigious duty of being the excutioner...

I'd love to be like me
If I could feel like you
Give your children a brighter future, bozo Diamondogz74 today! 32 bozos and counting!

Bizzarely, his bozo count seems to be dropping, so now would be the time to strike, before support for your cause erodes too far.

I Don't Believe In Triangles

I just unbozoed him myself (I know, lynch me now).
Apparently he's learned to use the quote function and it seems that he has been able to reduce the number of his daily posts. Can't say if the quality has improved but I see no reason to keep him bozoed anymore...

The God you love is gone
He lies broken by your shame
The thing that took his place already died

Traitor. We have ways of dealing with people like you.

I Don't Believe In Triangles

Not funny.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'

But think, it will be five years from now, or do you not laugh at Twin Towers jokes either?

I Don't Believe In Triangles

Haven't come across a good one yet. And I don't believe in using other people's misery for simple jokes. The good ones have criticism and cynicism in relation to their very subject - the others are just, well, childish.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'

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Oh yes, even if it were. :-P

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Easy words

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I prefer quality over quantity... if only the same could be said of DD74.

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Huh! thats rich coming from a P**S ARTIST

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No, but ddz is not typical of an acolyte's style of posting. I made it perfectly clear I was talking in general terms.

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You were talking out of your backside as per normal.

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I have heard rumours about "pity the fool" as dd74's possible custom made title.

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Anything with the great Mr Bowies words in, suits me just fine

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Of course, we could just kill him before he reaches that point.

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You are too kind.

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I just unbozoed him myself (I know, lynch me now).
Apparently he's learned to use the quote function and it seems that he has been able to reduce the number of his daily posts. Can't say if the quality has improved but I see no reason to keep him bozoed anymore...

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We scavenge up our clothes
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Haven't come across a good one yet. And I don't believe in using other people's misery for simple jokes. The good ones have criticism and cynicism in relation to their very subject - the others are just, well, childish.

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The victims and the act are just the means to an end. The actual target is the false sense of moral outrage politicians and the media express and the general public subsequently hanging on every word as if any of them really care about people in a country they'd never visit and who they'd most likely cast slurs against if they were refugees trying to gain access to their country. So the general aim is simply to treat the matter with irreverance, which inevitably upsets the same sort of people, while the few who actually get the joke are probably educated enough about the subject to understand that there's more than one side to the issue and it's not just a matter of the "poor victims" and the "attrocious acts".

I Don't Believe In Triangles

Your Abu Ghraib pic does exactly illustrate what I mean by the "good jokes". While the one before simply doesn't have anything to do with the context in which you put it. That's why it is not good. Easy as that.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'

I agree, the first one was basically just bad taste, the second one at lease had some thought put into it, humour is our defence against the atrocities which happen in this world, but cheap shots aren't humour.

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.

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I got that Uncut a few weeks ago (we always get them late being at the arse-end of the universe)

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Where the hell in Australia do you live, Stuie?

Here in Christchurch, population 350 000ish, in the South Island of bloody New Zealand, we have a bookshop (could be others, it's just that I have a friend who works at this one and thus get half price deals) which gets your NMEs, Qs, Uncuts, Mojos and what-have-you's bang on time.

That issue was a below standard issue but, yeah, the CD was alright... when did Laurie Anderson join the label?

But seriously, folks...

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Where the hell in Australia do you live, Stuie?

Here in Christchurch, population 350 000ish, in the South Island of bloody New Zealand, we have a bookshop (could be others, it's just that I have a friend who works at this one and thus get half price deals) which gets your NMEs, Qs, Uncuts, Mojos and what-have-you's bang on time.

That issue was a below standard issue but, yeah, the CD was alright... when did Laurie Anderson join the label?

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Oh we can get the "latest air freight issue", for a premium price, just after it comes out in the UK, but to get it at the regular price you have to wait a bit (unless you've got a mate who's prepared to abuse his employee privileges for you).

Stu
Get Bowie Back Downunder
The GBBD 2005 campaign starts here!

Just make arrogant posts and everyone will think you've been here for time. Works for me!!! LOL.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

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Works for me!!!

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Says who?

I bear more grudges
than lonely high court judges

Yer mam.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

Yet another proof that you don't have a slightest idea how TW works. We only mention parents when fucking is involved.

I bear more grudges
than lonely high court judges

Mmm, incest...

(Rabbit, you seem to be hyvässä vedossa today... )

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Always.

I bear more grudges
than lonely high court judges

You're a wanker my dear. It works for me as I please.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

Has anyone told you lately just how boring you are?

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It works for me as I please

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I don't know why but this reminds me of Thursayschild23.
Does anyone remember her?

I bear more grudges
than lonely high court judges

You are the fountain of all interestingness yourself - if I'm SO boring, why do you keep replying to my posts so quickly? Bless you. Let's be friends.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

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I don't know why but this reminds me of Thursayschild23.
Does anyone remember her?

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Vaguely...

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