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SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
05/19/04 08:02 AM
Oopsing. new  

After being unable to come to TW yesterday because of the Oops message, I'd like to bring back up a suggestion made by WildWind (I think) in the past.

Putting Coffee Shop in Auto Expire.

The auto expiry system is working perfectly fine for the Artiste forum (though there has been a slight slump in posts made there). There are a relatively few threads in CS that are important enough to be kept eternally (of couse, defining important is another thing, I shall arrive to it shortly), so something like a 100-day expiry (as in Artiste) would work rather fine. Mind you, that is 100 days after the last reply to the thread, not 100 days after the creation of the thread.

Threads that are considered to be good enough to be kept can be marked kept by the moderators (Adam, Ohramona and Tati_wl in the case of CS), and they will be excluded from the expiration. Possibly a comittee could be set up to decide which threads ought to be kept, but people could also simply make a request to the mods and they could use their own judgement.

What do you think?

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
05/19/04 09:27 AM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Sysiyo]  

Horrible idea, absolutely horrible.
Admit it Sys, you're only suggesting this because you don't read coffee shop threads yourself.

The God you love is gone
He lies broken by your shame
The thing that took his place already died


Emil
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 09:31 AM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Sysiyo]  

Fair enough.

Gone are the glorious days of thbdb.

-Midget! Crapper!

Hannibal_Lecter
(grinning soul)
05/19/04 09:33 AM
Girl with the mousey hair, part II new [re: Sysiyo]  

Hello again Sysiyo. I know you like to respond sincerely and responsibly to everyone’s posts and take their suggestions to heart; let’s hope you do so with this one.

In reply to:

defining important is another thing


Well there you go. Exactly how do you expect the TW community to believe that YOU of all people are in a dependable position to criticize the Coffee Shop and separate the chaff from the wheat? Whenever you flood the board with your inane single-sentence responses and your very special breed of humor, you rarely give any thought to the cumulative effect your posts have on poor Evan’s wallet. Out of your 8000 posts, at least 70% of them are geared towards the opposition of Hunky Dory, which is something that IF you had bothered to consider your actions before banging the submit button for the 6000th time, could have been adequately summarized in ONE post. Now add up the total cost in bandwidth of displaying Sysiyo’s silly narcissistic avatars, the repeated ‘jokes’, the history of Bowie when he was signed to Deram which no one wants to hear about, and you’ll only then begin to comprehend the immensity of Sysiyo’s uselessness and detrimental effect on the board. Yes, my fellow TWers, I’m looking for an OUTRIGHT BAN on Sysiyo.

Now the more recent denizens of TW may think that I’m overreacting, but I think I’d better illustrate my point with a couple of examples. Here is a TYPICAL EXAMPLE of Sysiyo’s average contribution to a thread. I’d like my fellow TWers to consider that I clicked on this thread completely at random and can therefore be interpreted as a measure of the true calibre of Sysiyo’s posts. Not only does it contain one of those ridiculously humorless ‘better than Hunky Dory’ messages, but she compounds her onslaught by wasting yet more space on the server with a pointless ‘is too!’ follow-up. Please remember that all of these worthless posts of Sysiyo’s have to be catalogued, indexed and date-stamped on the TW server and the overall effect is one that makes a far greater contribution to oops messages than many dozens of threads. In fact, I’m sure if Adam or Evan had the good sense to wipe out ALL of her 7000 messages, TW would never receive an Oops message ever again!

(Note to Sysiyo: Dinner at eight, don’t be late! )

If we even had to select another forum for periodic culling, I suggest Collectors’ Corner which contains far fewer interesting threads once they’ve been answered initially (they are rarely revived). Also, I maintain the accusation I have stated on numerous occasions that CC is over-populated by pedophiles who are single-handedly responsible for the mysterious disappearance of many of TW’s finest posters over the years (I have reliable sources indicate that Skellaway has both Kirk and Sylvanelf locked in his basement.)

Thank you for your time.


i ate TJ

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
05/19/04 09:53 AM
Someone is reminding me of ddz74. new [re: Hannibal_Lecter]  

You confuse my gender, dear mr. Lecter.

Like I indicated in my post, had you read it properly, I do not claim to know what posts are important enough to be saved. Indeed, I completely agree that my contributions, especially in the said forum, are quite meaningless. However, as this is a David Bowie message board, I would say it's perfectly fair we concentrate on things that concern mister Bowie. Coffee Shop does not. Do we need threads like this, this or this saved for future reference? (No offense to the people who created and ansvered to those threads. They were selected at random).

On a related note, a large portion of 7734 posts of mine do not in fact exist, they were deleted when Evan removed a notable amount of old posts in TW a few years ago to speed up the operation of the site. An autoexpiry system would nullify the need for another large delete-spree like that. Additionally, there are 253373 posts in Coffee Shop at this writing. My posts, numerous as they are, are just a drop in the ocean.

Also, my avatars are all hosted off-site, and (if my understanding of how these things work is correct) hence do not use TW's bandwidth.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

dukewhite
(stealing for that one good rush)
05/19/04 10:28 AM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Sysiyo]  

Are expired posts archived or simply deleted to never be seen or heard from again?

One problem with implimenting this will be to go back through all the threads that exist to save valuable ones that haven't been seen in some time, like this (last posted 10/24/03), just to mention one. Anyway, there are years worth of threads that are worth saving, but it would take almost just as long to go through and sift out the valuable ones before innitiating the auto-expire sequence.

Perhaps a select retiring of old picture threads and the like?

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Columbus, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

Edited by dukewhite on 05/19/04 10:39 AM (server time).



Strawman
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 10:31 AM
The Strawman Solution new [re: Sysiyo]  

Bung the surplus threads over to LOW

There's room in abundance.






Starlite
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 11:40 AM
Save our Future new [re: Sysiyo]  

Actually, Sys, I like the International Differences thread. Sure, CS is not about Bowie, but like it or not it'sthe most thriving part of the MBs. I would be sad to see its threads deleted. I'm already saddened that many Artiste threads I liked are gone, but I understand why it had to be done. Still, I'd like CS to remain as is.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
05/19/04 01:01 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: dukewhite]  

In reply to:

Are expired posts archived or simply deleted to never be seen or heard from again?


Deleted, unfortunately.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

SugarPlumFairy
(leasing the moon)
05/19/04 01:07 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Sysiyo]  

I'm all for it.

Maybe more mods could be assigned for Coffee Shop, so that we'd get a wider variety of saved threads.

Nobody buys matching purple suits unless they are in love.

FaeRogue
(electric tomato)
05/19/04 01:20 PM
Re: Girl with the mousey hair, part II new [re: Hannibal_Lecter]  

Bizzare, all of Mr. Lecter's punctuation appears on my computer as Chinese symbols. Am I the only one?

On the topic, sure delete away. 100 days is a long time for a post to be dead, if you can even remember a post that old you're not drinking nearly enough gin.

"You won't eat our meat, but you glue with our feet."

pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
05/19/04 01:32 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Sysiyo]  

I think this is a good Idea too.

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.



ohramonaModerator
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 02:38 PM
Why can't I paint you new [re: Sysiyo]  

If indeed the bulk of CS is causing Oopsies, and if auto-expiry is working in Artiste, then employing auto-expiry in CS seems the most logical way to trim the weight, but I wonder how we can tell that this is definitely the cause for Oopsies. Today seems much better, and we don't have fewer threads today.

In reply to:

The auto expiry system is working perfectly fine for the Artiste forum (though there has been a slight slump in posts made there



I find it highly unlikely that the two things are related.

In reply to:

save valuable ones that haven't been seen in some time, like this



This is worth saving? This is worth valuable bandwidth? Hmmm . . . 'course now I had to go post on it again and revive it!

In reply to:

Am I the only one?



I don't know about the rest of them, but this anomaly is not occurring on my computer.



shitr

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
05/19/04 03:00 PM
Ör. new [re: ohramona]  

In reply to:

I find it highly unlikely that the two things are related.


Actually they are, because up until that point people were under the (false) impression their work would be saved in the forum forever.

It is of course entirely possible the bulk posts in CS are not causing the oopsing. As said, I'm no expert in these things.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

dukewhite
(stealing for that one good rush)
05/19/04 03:13 PM
Re: Why can't I paint you new [re: ohramona]  

In reply to:

This is worth saving? This is worth valuable bandwidth?


While it might not be incredibly "valuable" per se, it is noetheless a milestone thread. What I was trying to point out, and perhaps I failed in this effort, was that there is a history to the boards that would be lost if great threads (include TJ's death thread if you choose) are just deleted.

Doesn't everyone on here have a thread or two that have a special place in your heart, despite perhaps not being the most worthwhile topic? Or a specific post that you are particularly proud of that you'd really be sad to know was gone forever?

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Columbus, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

Edited by dukewhite on 05/19/04 03:15 PM (server time).



ohramonaModerator
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 03:44 PM
No egos under water new [re: Sysiyo]  

In reply to:

...people were under the (false) impression their work would be saved in the forum forever.



I guess this goes to show how different people "use" TW. This makes it sound like people create art forTW's sake, that they wouldn't make it otherwise. Whereas I (in my very limited artisteness) thought it was a place to share what would have been created otherwise. I see your point. I guess I never would have written limericks about farts and circumcision, or haiku about wonderbras if the Artiste forum had not inspired me to do so. And how about that Five Minute Writing Exercise? That rocked! Now I'm getting all sad and weepy!

But! Adam did give plenty of warning prior to the threads expiring, and people had plenty of chances to save their work if this was the only place it existed.

In reply to:

Doesn't everyone on here have a thread or two that have a special place in your heart,...? Or a specific post that you are particularly proud of that you'd really be sad to know was gone forever?



Yes. See above. But I'm just a silly, dottering, old sentimental fool.

Shit. Here comes that Oopsie message. Watch, all this typing and my post may be lost!



shitr

pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
05/19/04 03:45 PM
Wheat from the Chaff new [re: dukewhite]  

There are indeed a lot of threads which would be a shame to lose, but there are also a lot more threads which have no historical significance. I am sure that threads like the TJNewton one, would be considered worthy of keeping, maybe there would have to be two moderators approval of a thread being deleted, with the power of veto applying?

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.



Strawman
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 03:51 PM
Love you for it though... new [re: ohramona]  


In a roundabout way, you people really do talk the biggest load of bollocks.








Hannibal_Lecter
(grinning soul)
05/19/04 03:58 PM
We fuck first, *then* we eat new [re: Sysiyo]  

In reply to:

Like I indicated in my post, had you read it properly, I do not claim to know what posts are important enough to be saved.


Yes, my dearest Sissy, I am quite aware of what you said. The point was, since you're obviously a dunderhead and need it spelling out for you, is that NO ONE is in the position to determine which are good or bad thread - different people look for different things at TW - and trawling through them all would require several aeons. However, since you've singled out the Coffee Shop, you *have* obviously made a judgement on the quality of that forum. Here are three NVQ threads which I deem equally tedious, if not more so.

1) The inimitable ‘I bought a Bowie CD thread’
2) A THBDB – sorry duke, but I guess we all make slips occasionally.
3) The Worst of Bowie CD – redone ad nauseum.

(No offence to the perpetrators of those threads, but they’re really fucking awful.) Also, just as the original Alphabet Survivor threads were deleted, it might be a reasonable idea to file the current batch also.

You will find that most Bowie fans who are interested in Bowie-related topics (the really interesting stuff, like what Bowie ate for breakfast today and Claude's latest close-ups on Bowie's crotch) have already found other sites/news forums because TW has not been updated for so long. Also, if anyone reading this is genuinely interested in these Bowie topics, I can offer an impartial list of independent psychiatrists I highly recommend visiting.

Anyway, I believe at least some of the Oops to be caused by corrupt databases (I’m not entirely sure what that means, but Evan has mentioned it here). I would suggest that this is something NOT due to the volume of posts but the mechanics of the server. Notably, when TW last went down and everyone disappeared to wankerworld, the problem was fixed WITHOUT removing any old threads.

Also, the Chinese characters guy above has invitation to a SPECIAL BANQUET.


i ate TJ

ohramonaModerator
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 04:00 PM
I'm just a little girl with teary eyes new [re: Strawman]  

In reply to:

Love you for it though...


Well I'll take warped reasoning over the lack of love altogether anyday. In fact, it's what I'm use to, dysfunctional family and all ...

And guess what, Mark! I'm at work!



shitr

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
05/19/04 04:16 PM
Re: Why can't I paint you new [re: dukewhite]  

In reply to:

Doesn't everyone on here have a thread or two that have a special place in your heart


All the "X" threads really. Since the man behind the skimask hasn't been very active lately, i'm forced to search the meaning of life from his past works.

The God you love is gone
He lies broken by your shame
The thing that took his place already died


SugarPlumFairy
(leasing the moon)
05/19/04 05:13 PM
Re: We fuck first, *then* we eat new [re: Hannibal_Lecter]  

Well, I've always suspected there's something wrong with the forum database on the provider's side. I'm not an expert in that either, so I don't know if there's any way to fix things.

The best and at the same time probably most difficult option would be to change the forum script and provider entirely. We'd have to start from scratch, but it would be worth it. This one, for example, is a free forum software package that seems to work well. You can see an example of it in use here.

Nobody buys matching purple suits unless they are in love.

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
05/19/04 05:31 PM
Re: We fuck first, *then* we eat new [re: SugarPlumFairy]  

In reply to:

The best and at the same time probably most difficult option would be to change the forum script and provider entirely.


I can already see the horde of trolls adopting well known screennames and raising havoc!

The God you love is gone
He lies broken by your shame
The thing that took his place already died


dukewhite
(stealing for that one good rush)
05/19/04 08:50 PM
Re: We fuck first, *then* we eat new [re: RabbitFighter]  

In reply to:

I can already see the horde of trolls adopting well known screennames and raising havoc!


Oooh, I get to be Adam!

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Columbus, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

JonnyManic
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 09:18 PM
I wish someone would put you on auto-expire new [re: Sysiyo]  

In reply to:

Putting Coffee Shop in Auto Expire.


This is such a stupid idea. There must be hundreds of threads that catalogue the development of relationships, arguments, viewpoints... the very history of TW. The idea of automatically trashing these after a hundred quiet days is absurd. I'm sure all you pseudo-postmodernists with your Derrida-this and your Baudrillard-that think that history has come to an end, but for those of us who realise that we are nothing where we are without where we came from, the idea of allowing our thoughts and ideas be banished to digital oblivion is downright offensive.

Sure most of what's written here is inconsequential and, to be honest, borderline illiterate, but for every few dozen mongols we have a top notch poster who makes us laugh, cry, think...

I suggest that this request be treated with the disdain it deserves and that Sysiyo be driven naked through the streets as a penance for even thinking it. Because, let's be honest, he'd enjoy it, and I'm not a vindictive sort.

My flesh inherited a thousand natural shocks the first time I gazed at your pre-Raphaelite locks

Remade/Remodeled
(stardust savant)
05/19/04 10:33 PM
He's right, you know new [re: JonnyManic]  

Seconded.

But seriously, folks...

poorsoul
(acolyte)
05/20/04 03:56 AM
J'ai new [re: Sysiyo]  

In reply to:

Deleted, unfortunately.



So what of these glorious archives we keep hearing about? Are they just sitting around on someone's hard drive or are they, too, lost forever?

Give Me More Money, You Bastards



SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
05/20/04 06:05 AM
Well, at least this spawned conversation... new [re: poorsoul]  

In reply to:

You will find that most Bowie fans who are interested in Bowie-related topics (the really interesting stuff, like what Bowie ate for breakfast today and Claude's latest close-ups on Bowie's crotch) have already found other sites/news forums because TW has not been updated for so long.


I come here for Bowie news, and discussion about Bowie. If the purpose of these boards is not discussion about Bowie, then we might as well shut down the entire place.

And as an additional point, I am also a member of BowieAudio, and I occasionally check news in Bnet and Bassman. However, I find TW a much more pleasant place to get Bowie news and discuss Bowie. Even with all the quarrels here, this place still has a better atmosphere than other boards.

In reply to:

sure all you pseudo-postmodernists with your Derrida-this and your Baudrillard-that think that history has come to an end, but for those of us who realise that we are nothing where we are without where we came from, the idea of allowing our thoughts and ideas be banished to digital oblivion is downright offensive.


I would like to point out that I'm studying to be accepted to the History faculty of the Helsinki University. And like I said, the threads that are considered historically important could be saved. All you need to do is request that.

Don't give us people here too much credit, dude.

In reply to:

So what of these glorious archives we keep hearing about? Are they just sitting around on someone's hard drive or are they, too, lost forever?


If I've understood correctly, the threads culled by Evan in the great archiving were truly archived, but any threads deleted later on (by the autodelete in Artiste or by the mods elsewhere) are simply deleted with no chance or retrieving them.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Dara
(acolyte)
05/20/04 06:26 AM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Sysiyo]  

I oppose the idea. Like it or not, the Coffee Shop is the centre of these boards. Its culture has already been compromised to a certain extent by the ban on anons, and this would compromise it further. The history of Bowie may be on the more Bowie-centric boards, but the history of TW is recorded primarily in the Coffee Shop.

Slan libh,

Dara

So Levi's are called Levi's because the guy's name was Levi Strauss? Why didn't they call them strousers? - Fiona O'Kearney 6/5/2004

Soulman
(crash course raver)
05/20/04 07:44 AM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Sysiyo]  

Sounds good to me. I personally enjoy the coffee shop more than any area here, but I have rarely come across anything that would be worth saving for future generations.

Arse-licking Christ, false Christ, little self-hatred Christ, Sex Christ, Death, dumb and blind Christ, Hanging in a garden shed Christ, Anorexic Christ, Idiot Christ

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
05/20/04 08:53 AM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Dara]  

In reply to:

The history of Bowie may be on the more Bowie-centric boards, but the history of TW is recorded primarily in the Coffee Shop.


Well said Dara. Coffee shop is the one area in TW that I love dearly. It's also the reason why i've wasted too much time in here. Our own little culture is something of value and you don't find anything similar in most of the fan communities i've seen.

The God you love is gone
He lies broken by your shame
The thing that took his place already died


SugarPlumFairy
(leasing the moon)
05/20/04 03:42 PM
Assuming the role of someone taking this seriously new [re: JonnyManic]  

In reply to:

pseudo-postmodernists with your Derrida-this and your Baudrillard-that think that history has come to an end


I just have to say that's the most misled and skewed idea of postmodern cultural studies I have heard.
Of course it's true that some postmodern-enthusiasts have gone to the direction you indicate, but that you seem to want to see the entire field of research as pseudo-scientific and anti-historical also shows where you're coming from.



Persilot
(crash course raver)
05/20/04 06:18 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: RabbitFighter]  

True enough. There is only so much you can be bothered to say about Bowie before you get the urge to post an "interesting vegetables you have seen" in the coffee shop. I think it's fine as is.

"If a man consults whether he is to fight, when he has the power in his own hands, it is certain that his opinion is against fighting." - Nelson

JonnyManic
(stardust savant)
05/20/04 09:50 PM
what can I say, I'm a marxist new [re: SugarPlumFairy]  

In reply to:

Of course it's true that some postmodern-enthusiasts have gone to the direction you indicate, but that you seem to want to see the entire field of research as pseudo-scientific and anti-historical also shows where you're coming from.


I was just kidding. The idea that history has ended is something of a postmodern conceit though, mainly propogated by the American right who feel that history has come to an end in American capitalist hegemony.

I actually very much appreciate Baudrillard, his ideas about hyperreality and simulacra are very useful in critiques of modern culture, and Foucault and Barthes are useful too. Derrida's pretty worthless in my opinion though, deconstruction is just wordplay for people who can't perform textual analysis. Chomsky's stuff on postmodernism is very amusing, actually.

My flesh inherited a thousand natural shocks the first time I gazed at your pre-Raphaelite locks

poorsoul
(acolyte)
05/21/04 02:31 AM
Röw new [re: Sysiyo]  

In reply to:

It is of course entirely possible the bulk posts in CS are not causing the oopsing. As said, I'm no expert in these things.



Consider this: there haven't been any major outages lately and neither has Dogz been active. Coincidence? I don't think so.

Give Me More Money, You Bastards



SugarPlumFairy
(leasing the moon)
05/21/04 10:56 AM
Re: what can I say, I'm a marxist new [re: JonnyManic]  

In reply to:

I was just kidding.


I know.

In reply to:

The idea that history has ended is something of a postmodern conceit though, mainly propogated by the American right who feel that history has come to an end in American capitalist hegemony.


Very good point. I'd say the same kind of idea is nested somewhere deep in European thinking as well. Might have something to do with the neverending project of Enlightenment, which perceives history as a linear ascent into ever greater wellbeing, until a perfect society is reached. This thinking is a secret fault of many Marxists, too.

In reply to:

Derrida's pretty worthless in my opinion though, deconstruction is just wordplay for people who can't perform textual analysis.


That depends how you use it and what you combine it with. It's a tool to help with the work, not something you should allow to dominate the whole analysis. I like to combine deconstructivist thinking with Barthes, Bakhtin, postcolonial theories and some strands of new psychoanalytical theories.

Nobody buys matching purple suits unless they are in love.

JonnyManic
(stardust savant)
05/21/04 12:36 PM
Typical Site Feedback discussion, natch... new [re: SugarPlumFairy]  

In reply to:

Very good point. I'd say the same kind of idea is nested somewhere deep in European thinking as well. Might have something to do with the neverending project of Enlightenment, which perceives history as a linear ascent into ever greater wellbeing, until a perfect society is reached.


I'm not so sure that the idea that history has ended is a European notion, it would be more accurate to assume that the European notion would be "History will end, but not as long as the Yanks are boss", hence the drive for European unification on the continent. The whole modernist-Enlightenment has a kind of 'inevitatibility' built into it that is very naive. You know, I don't knock the Enlightenment, I welcome the intrusion of reason and logic into our thinking, but it's quest for objective or (especially) aesthetic truth is about the most ludicrous idea ever. The whole premise of a lack of objective truth is what got me sympathising with postmodernism in the first place. What puts me off is the prevalance of the idea that the lack of truth is somehow liberating which leads us to the "postmodern" condition of a lack of values and respect for humanity.

In reply to:

This thinking is a secret fault of many Marxists, too


It's not a secret and it's amongst most Marxists. More contemplative Marxists realise that this "ascent" to a perfect society is not something that's bound to happen and, in the "postmodern world", our ideas and processes have to adapt. Historical and Dialectical Materialism is just a way of interpreting history, it's not gospel as many lefties seem to think. Actually, Foucault and Derrida were both essentially Marxist thinkers who developed what were seemingly more relevant techniques. If you read their discussions of Marxism, you can see they really engage with it. PM me your email, I'll send you an interesting essay on reconciling postmodernism and Marxism if you like.

My flesh inherited a thousand natural shocks the first time I gazed at your pre-Raphaelite locks

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
05/21/04 01:30 PM
Re: what can I say, I'm a marxist new [re: SugarPlumFairy]  

In reply to:

This thinking is a secret fault of many Marxists, too.


How dare three insult Marx? Now I must hit three with the big stick of socialist enlightment!

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

hangontoyourself
(kook)
05/21/04 02:00 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Sysiyo]  

If it'll stop "Oops" messages then sounds good...does it matter profoundly if old posts are archived? If they lie forgotten after 100 days it's unlikely they're of HUGE importance.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
05/21/04 02:16 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: hangontoyourself]  

In reply to:

does it matter profoundly if old posts are archived?


Yes it does matter. Like others stated before, that's where our history lies. Besides, Bowie might be the thing that drags us here but Coffee shop is certainly the main reason why we stay here. If you disagree with me i'm forced to stone you to death.

I bear more grudges
than lonely high court judges


hangontoyourself
(kook)
05/21/04 02:23 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: RabbitFighter]  

It only matters so some dickheads can say "this has been discussed before". I presume you regularly trawl the archives and read old posts then?

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
05/21/04 02:32 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: hangontoyourself]  

In reply to:

I presume you regularly trawl the archives and read old posts then?


Occasionally yes. You haven't obviously been here long enough if you don't recognize old threads as a perfect way to deliver some cheap shots in arguments.
For the record though, I might have once or twice used the dreaded THBDB line but I usually keep my mouth shut when some fucker decides to post same threads over and over again.



I bear more grudges
than lonely high court judges


Shyster
(crash course raver)
05/21/04 02:42 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: hangontoyourself]  

In reply to:

I presume you regularly trawl the archives and read old posts then?


You don't have to trawl through anything you daft prick, it's simply a case of having been here long enough to remember what's been discussed over and over.

Twat.

NEXT!

pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
05/21/04 02:47 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Shyster]  

In reply to:

You don't have to trawl through anything you daft prick, it's simply a case of having been here long enough to remember what's been discussed over and over.


Well as we have this thing called memory, there is no need to keep the old threads

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.



hangontoyourself
(kook)
05/21/04 02:47 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Shyster]  

So you don't in fact need them then, eh, cock?

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

Shyster
(crash course raver)
05/21/04 03:29 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: pablopicasso]  

In reply to:

Well as we have this thing called memory, there is no need to keep the old threads


A lot of peoples memories aren't as sharp as mine.

Look at hangontoyourself's previous post for instance. He's already forgotten he's a cunt.

NEXT!

pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
05/21/04 03:33 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Shyster]  

I think you mean she

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.



White Prism
(electric tomato)
05/21/04 03:33 PM
In memory of me new [re: Shyster]  

THBDB

The precis:

- Posters who want threads to be deleted never made any decent posts themselves and, quite frankly, are responsible for at least 90% of the worthless output which ought to be deleted.

- Posters who want threads to be deleted also don't have any friends here who make decent posts either.

- An expiry of 100 days would mean that almost all of Eraserhead's posts would have already vanished.

- Twister was almost* telling the truth when he said 'Message boards that don't keep old threads are the devil.'

* Hangontoyourself is really the devil.

Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread


hangontoyourself
(kook)
05/21/04 03:40 PM
Re: In memory of me new [re: White Prism]  

OH my. Few raw nerves here eh... what have I done to upset you lovely people so? Such language...

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

White Prism
(electric tomato)
05/21/04 03:52 PM
Let's talk about Keith BABY"""2""22"" new [re: hangontoyourself]  

In reply to:

OH my. Few raw nerves here eh... what have I done to upset you lovely people so? Such language...


Well, you've crapped on every single thread you've ever posted on. That is, of course, unless you believe people actually get excited when they click on a thread only to find that you've replied.

What if we all posted retarded, incoherent shite like hangontoyourself? Here's your answer!! Hangontoyourself's vision for the new TW


Also, I couldn't let this pass:

In reply to:

(sysiyo) there has been a slight slump in posts made [in artiste]).


Looks like Sysiyo avoids the limerick threads too.

Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread


hangontoyourself
(kook)
05/21/04 03:55 PM
Re: Let's talk about Keith BABY"""2""22"" new [re: White Prism]  

Well, we can't all be as profound as you dear. As for keithism, someone clearly doesn't have a sense of humour.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

White Prism
(electric tomato)
05/21/04 04:03 PM
Get Yer Ya-Yahs Out [re: hangontoyourself]  

Right, I obviously misinterpreted your intentions with Keithism. May I suggest a new slogan for the site?

Keithism: it's so bad, it's laughable.

Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread


hangontoyourself
(kook)
05/21/04 04:29 PM
Re: Get Yer Ya-Yahs Out new [re: White Prism]  

It IS a joke, an IN joke yes, but still...you mustn't be familiar with the concept as you clearly have no friends. Wow, Cheap shot hour is actually REALLY fun.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

JonnyManic
(stardust savant)
05/21/04 09:11 PM
you are less than nothing new [re: hangontoyourself]  

In reply to:

It IS a joke, an IN joke yes, but still...you mustn't be familiar with the concept as you clearly have no friends. Wow, Cheap shot hour is actually REALLY fun.


Is cheap shot hour those sixty minutes when guys take it in turn to blow their load into your mother's face for zero outlay?

I have an idea! Let's cut out hangontoyourself's rancid, syphilitic tongue! Then, smash it's hands with a stout mallet so that it will never darken these threads with it's inane, worthless gibberish ever again!

My flesh inherited a thousand natural shocks the first time I gazed at your pre-Raphaelite locks

Atonalexpress
(acolyte)
05/22/04 01:38 AM
Re: Let's talk about Keith BABY"""2""22"" new [re: White Prism]  

In reply to:

Looks like Sysiyo avoids the limerick threads too


Sysiyo has contributed over the years we have been posting poems. You are wrong and don't know what you are talking about. We have actually had a teacher in a school system ask permission to share an entire limerick thread to his students we wrote several years ago about Bowie and Iggy Pop. And if you carefully read every thread, there are those who have enjoyed them.

The Atonal Express left the tonal world behind...
Atonalexpress

Starlite
(stardust savant)
05/26/04 02:50 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: RabbitFighter]  

I would also like to add that every so often I do trawl old threads, just for the fun of it. There's good stuff in there! I'd cry to see it all gone. Hangontoyourself, I suggest you go do a detailed search of twister's, Monkeyboy's, Sylvanelf's and heck, Eraserhead's past threads before saying anything.

In fact, you should have done that before you ever started posting.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

dukewhite
(stealing for that one good rush)
06/05/04 10:46 AM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: Starlite]  

So I'm wondering, is there really a problem with oopsing? I mean, really, I can't remember time that it seriously hindered my TW experience.

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Columbus, Uncasville, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
06/05/04 12:10 PM
Re: Oopsing. new [re: dukewhite]  



Believe everything I say,especially the lies.



Emil
(stardust savant)
06/06/04 06:59 AM
Why Oopsing? new [re: pablopicasso]  

So what is the real reason for this oopsing? I wish Evan would tell us if he knew the reason behind the recent mega-oops. As I have remarked before, the load on the server cannot be the problem since activity on TW has only decreased in recent years. I suspect it has to do with the software of this MB being a rusty old vehicle that's not maintained properly and that really needs a thorough renovation. That, rather than just the amount of old posts.

-Right! So nobody leaves here until I get a slow song right! (David Bowie)

AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
06/06/04 07:44 AM
the pain is over me, overloading... new [re: Emil]  

I chatted very briefly with Evan about two weeks ago and took the opportunity to ask him the reason why it happens. Well, it appears that 'oops' is indeed a hiccup or curruption in the software rather than an overloading issue.

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dukewhite
(stealing for that one good rush)
06/06/04 01:08 PM
Re: the pain is over me, overloading... new [re: Adam]  

Did he say if it was fixable, Adam? I would assume that after our Week of Hell, Evan would want to prevent it from happening again, but who knows. Maybe he really doesn't care about us and what I've suspected is true. We have a deadbeat (evil) dad!

GDE
get dukewhite to Europe
Twelve just wasn't enough!


poorsoul
(acolyte)
06/06/04 11:46 PM
Infestation new [re: dukewhite]  

Still, it could be worse. He could come home drunk and abusive - or is that what Shyster's for?

Morrissey Needs Your Money - Support His New Line Of Alcoholic Beverages



Earthling on Fire
(electric tomato)
06/07/04 03:06 AM
Re: the pain is over me, overloading... new [re: dukewhite]  

In reply to:

our Week of Hell


Don't call BWW hell - when you finally get there for real, you might find it's actually even worse, who knows.

Wear your wound with honour.

schizophrenic
(crash course raver)
06/07/04 06:29 PM
Re: Let's talk about Keith BABY"""2""22"" new [re: Atonalexpress]  

Word of advice, Atonal: don't take it too seriously. It just makes you look worse.


Man falls down. Funny.


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