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pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
08/20/04 03:33 PM
The real demise of Diamondogz74  

OK it has happened, I know there will be people who will find this a good thing, but I also know there are people who were friends with DD74. OK to some he could be annoying, if you were sensitive to that sort of thing, others could just be adult and ignore him. Maybe if people hadn't baited him so much, this could have been avoided. He had changed his posting habits, but still the abuse was hurled.

Live and let live people.


Say what you want now, I have no more to say on the subject.


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RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
08/20/04 03:38 PM
Fight for the better tomorrow paid off new [re: pablopicasso]  

Where's a bottle of champagne when I need one?
Well, atleast I didn't have to fix the brakes of his car...

You're gonna make me feel so cold

Starlite
(stardust savant)
08/20/04 03:42 PM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: pablopicasso]  

Wait, so has he been banned now, or what?

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

CharlieManson
(grinning soul)
08/20/04 03:57 PM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: pablopicasso]  

He never knew what hit him,
and it hit him.........

______________
Helter Skelter
______________
DD74 is my father


ohramonaModerator
(stardust savant)
08/20/04 04:31 PM
dic.com new [re: pablopicasso]  

In reply to:

We cannot proceed.

We encountered a problem. The reason reported was:

You have been banned from making any new posts or sending private messages. The reason for this ban is: excessive irritation of hoi polloi


That was a good one!



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EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
08/20/04 04:45 PM
dic.com, further down new [re: ohramona]  

A very olympic substantiation as apparently "hoi polloi" is Greek for "the many."

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


96dbFreak
(acolyte)
08/20/04 06:50 PM
Re: dic.com new [re: ohramona]  

So is this a joke or has Mr Asexuality really been given the heave-ho?

Stu
Get Bowie Back Downunder
The GBBD 2005 campaign starts here!


zigbot
(cracked actor)
08/21/04 03:18 AM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: pablopicasso]  

I did not involve myself in the "ban DD74" movement, either in support of doing so or not doing so. Frankly, I didn't take the posts that seriously. I guess I just don't get it--if it is clearly an issue of "overposting," then should we all count our posts? That's sad--I thought this place prided itself on being the one Bowie site where you could only be banned for truly threatening behavior or for sleeping with a moderator's mother and requiring the moderator to join in.

I did not always enjoy DD74's posts, but I wasn't always annoyed by them either. There's a good many of us here, I think, that, while celebrating the Dogz's demise, better start minding our P's and Q's, counting our posts, and thinking "there but for the grace of moderators, go I."

zigbot

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
08/21/04 04:28 AM
Re: dic.com new [re: 96dbFreak]  

In reply to:

So is this a joke or has Mr Asexuality really been given the heave-ho?


We kid you not.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

NomDePlume
(grinning soul)
08/21/04 07:17 AM
On TW's finest hour new [re: pablopicasso]  

This is not it.

Freedom's just another word for nothing but a bunch of losers.

Thank for your interest etc...



hangontoyourself
(electric tomato)
08/21/04 09:47 AM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: zigbot]  

In reply to:

better start minding our P's and Q's, counting our posts, and thinking "there but for the grace of moderators, go I."



They can go shag themselves...seems if you breath in wrong 5 of them will be on to you immediately for pissing them off. This is seriously unfair. Maybe we should ALL have a post limit or anyone who ever irrated a single other person should be thrown out...don't want to appear inconsistant after all. What a pile of WANK.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism
DD74 is my idol

Marquis
(acolyte)
08/21/04 10:38 AM
Get Get Get Get Get Over It! new [re: hangontoyourself]  

In reply to:

This is seriously unfair.


It is neither seriously unfair nor unforseen. This isn't a recent thing by any stretch; Dogz has been infuriating the TW populace at large for nearly a year. It isn't 5 people who decided they didn't want him around, it was the 44 posters who had him bozoed, as well as the many others who hadn't gone that far but considered it.

And not only was he adequately warned and tolerated for far too long, I believe that deep down, like any troll, this is what he wanted. So cheerz to you, doggie, you have united TW. And the rest of you have at least 4000 posts of shit to roll around in in reminiscence.

Edit: Oh, and I almost forgot. THBDB. You shouldn't have made a new thread, now we'll have to ban you!

Sadness is for poor people.

Edited by Marquis on 08/21/04 10:40 AM (server time).



SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
08/21/04 10:45 AM
Re: Get Get Get Get Get Over It! new [re: Marquis]  

Hear hear, well spoken Marquis. It would be seriously unfair if DDZ had been banend out of the blue, without any proper explanation. However, that is not the case. There have been requests for his banning from the first weeks he was a TW member. He has continuously irritated people, and continued his behavious despite repeated pleas and warnings.

And let me tell you, this isn't the first time a TW user has been banned for simply posting too much and being a general asshole (any of the older fellas remember Bananaman?). Only back then the action was much more swift. We gave plenty of time to DDZ to start behaving, but he did nothing of the kind.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

NoMoreNoLess
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/21/04 02:05 PM
Re: Get Get Get Get Get Over It! new [re: Marquis]  

According to the logically of your contribution U got 29 bozos to go!!!



Marquis
(acolyte)
08/21/04 02:19 PM
A dne B new [re: NoMoreNoLess]  

I'll start worrying about it when I get more than 5 threads started about what an idiot I am. I'm sure dearlydeparted had more than 15 in his tenure.

Furthermore, you're a dullard without a shred of a sense of humor, and a terminally annoying shit-stirring troll to boot. I'm with Stu; off with his head!

Sadness is for poor people.

th0mas
(acolyte)
08/21/04 03:25 PM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: hangontoyourself]  

the only thing wrong about the 7-posting-rule was to give DDz this chance at all.

"Have you tried... not being a mutant?"

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
08/21/04 03:27 PM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: th0mas]  

I asked for his banning nearly a year ago. If everyone would have agreed then, we would have been saved from a whole lot of bullshit.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Starlite
(stardust savant)
08/21/04 03:31 PM
Re: Get Get Get Get Get Over It! new [re: Sysiyo]  

Right. You can get banned from ANY board for being a jackass and irritating almost everyone on it.

You can also be banned for being continuously offensive and not respecting the rules of the board.

We've had people banned for both reasons before, and ddz74 more than fulfilled the criteria.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

NoMoreNoLess
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/21/04 04:08 PM
Re: A dne B new [re: Marquis]  

I have never been mean to any members here!!! My sense of humor does not inclued degrading of people i actually dont know.I know Ur pissed but I dont undersand why, but in the future I will keep low profil and not disturbing Your delicate feelings and humorous contribution. The 15 members whos bozos U are morons and dosent count (I am a idiot too and I dont even bother to bozo U)

Ohh, its funny and contains so much wisdom
"Furthermore, you're a dullard without a shred of a sense of humor, and a terminally annoying shit-stirring troll to boot. I'm with Stu; off with his head"






NoMoreNoLess
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/21/04 05:04 PM
Re: A dne B new [re: Marquis]  

Lets make the balance sheet


Registered Users: 9458
Users with visible profiles: 4387

I doubt because I only sees about roughly 30 are active in this site.
Has any one ever noticed the any of this members:
102 from Brazil
83 from Russia ??
58 from Israel
48.from Argentina
40 from Japan
14 from India
13 matches Africa
13. from Bulgaria
8 from Romania
4 from Iran
only one member from Taiwan?????
Ect.ect

Specially i´m pissed on the Taiwan he/she for never been able to bozo him/her (just joking...ha ha)...funny eh)
I´m also wondering how to cancel my membership, but maybe I missed the. Button.
Think it over...if these people have known u...how many do u think haved bozoed U



poorsoul
(acolyte)
08/21/04 10:36 PM
Madnosity new [re: NoMoreNoLess]  

Wow, it's even less coherent than Doltz.

999



OleanderWhoosh
(mortal with potential)
08/21/04 11:27 PM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: pablopicasso]  

*gasp* I don't know about anyone else, but I think it's kind of a pity to lose DDZ74. He seemed like a decent individual. This has been a depressing day...

"Yes, Mick Jagger is definitely a frolicker."

hangontoyourself
(electric tomato)
08/22/04 05:49 AM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: OleanderWhoosh]  

I agree completely. I can think of many more offensive characters around here. But it has been done. May I ask some technical questions??? Is the account banned or the ISP address? What I mean is, could DD74 re-emerge as a different user or in a different place? I ask out of pure curiosity as I've never seen a member banned here before.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism
DD74 is my idolStill I'm gonna miss you

Starlite
(stardust savant)
08/22/04 07:35 AM
Blah blah blah offensive new [re: hangontoyourself]  

Well, Altoid was banned, but he could re-register and still check his PMs.

I think ddz74's IP address was banned, so he can't post anything ever, more or less.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

Pickle
(grinning soul)
08/22/04 11:14 AM
The thrill is gone new [re: pablopicasso]  

Now we've nothing to talk about.



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GodlessWonder
(kook)
08/22/04 12:11 PM
Scapegoating new [re: Pickle]  

Does this now mean peace? Or are we going to have to find a new scapegoat...?

" I'm looking for backing for an unauthorized auto-biography that I am writing. Hopefully, this will sell in such huge numbers that I will be able to sue myself for an extraordinary amount of money"- David Bowie

krettis
(crash course raver)
08/22/04 12:41 PM
Re: Scapegoating new [re: GodlessWonder]  

HE can comeback DD74. Under another postername, there are so many nice proxies around here...

Well I won't start whining about it. I already gave my opinion. And I trust in the wise moderating of Sysiyo.

Your dream is such a scary place to be trapped inside - Anathema
DD74 is my idol

zigbot
(cracked actor)
08/22/04 04:42 PM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: OleanderWhoosh]  

He is a decent individual, and I find his being banned unnecessary and disturbing.

zigbot

Persilot
(crash course raver)
08/22/04 06:59 PM
Re: The real demise of Diamondogz74 new [re: pablopicasso]  

I go on holiday and manage to miss this!!! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!!

"I'm not saying I didn't love you. Or that I'm happy that you're dead. But my doctor did advise you to keep a rifle by your bed. "

JarethsGirl
(cracked actor)
08/22/04 10:26 PM
Banished new [re: pablopicasso]  

This is kind of ridiculous.
The people who are truly that annoyed by DD74 have probably already bozoed him, so what's the point of banning him?

Besides, if this is the case, why was the "late" TJNewton never banned?

I dunno. I guess this is how it all works. This is the only message board I visit, so I'm not well acquainted with the bannings.

I just think it's sort of a shame. If there was one person here that really truly liked DD74, I think it was worth it for him to be a member. One of my favorite people of all TW was previously banned, and my whole TW experience would have been dimmer without him.

I guess that's one gargantuan difference between the internet and real life - you meet lotsa people everday that irritate the shit outta you but you can't always make them just disappear... well that is unless you're one of our more maniacal members, like Hannibal or Charlie Manson.

TW: You never cease to amaze me.

Err: Oh man, you gotta check this out.
Meatwad: Oh yeah baby, that's a neat car she's washing. You think that's a straight 6?
Err: I think I have a straight 6.
Inignot: Ooooo, Err. Your sexual innuendo is priceless.


John_Q_Public
(mortal with potential)
08/22/04 11:23 PM
Re: Banished new [re: JarethsGirl]  

In reply to:

Besides, if this is the case, why was the "late" TJNewton never banned?


Because TJ wasn’t half as annoying as DD74 and more than 2 people liked him.

Also, it took T.J.Newton 3 years and 3 months to make 3137 posts (an average of around 2.65 posts a day).

It took Diamondogz74 1 year and 1 month to make 3589 posts (an average of around 12.2 posts a day).

So DD74 was basically 4.6 times more annoying than TJ ever was.

In reply to:

I dunno. I guess this is how it all works. This is the only message board I visit, so I'm not well acquainted with the bannings.


And yet you say…

In reply to:

One of my favorite people of all TW was previously banned, and my whole TW experience would have been dimmer without him.


…which would seem to suggest that you’re more familiar than most with bannings (which are very rare). You don’t live in Norwich, do you? And who was that "favorite" poster who was previously banned?

Johnny plays the sitar, he's an existentialist

Starlite
(stardust savant)
08/22/04 11:33 PM
Re: Banished new [re: JarethsGirl]  

In reply to:

The people who are truly that annoyed by DD74 have probably already bozoed him, so what's the point of banning him?


Actually, it's been explained over a 100 times already why just bozoing him did not work.

I can vouch for that.

And T.J. Newton, while being a malicious moron, at least followed some basic nettiquette rules. And knew some interesting things about Bowie. And yet we're still happy that he's gone.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

JarethsGirl
(cracked actor)
08/23/04 01:05 AM
The Curiously Strong TWer, of course new [re: John_Q_Public]  

I guess I just mentioned TJ cuz I found him infinitely more annoying than DD74, who was tolerable, IMO.

Altoid is the only person I've ever heard of being banned from TW and he's the poster I was talking about. I believe he was banned before I became a regular here, so like I said, I don't know much about the circumstances/what grounds he was banned on. He ended up returning as CallardBowser (Callard and Bowser being the makers of Altoids), eventually revealing his true identity. Then I guess when he showed he could behave himself, they gave him his old user name back.

So as you can see I'm no expert, however when I said I wasn't well acquainted I was mostly trying to convey that I don't know how it works here as opposed to most other MBs.


Starlite - I didn't know that topic was broached before, as I didn't really bother to partake or even read the hate threads towards DD74. Though I should have guessed it had already been discussed.

I just think it's crazy to get so worked up about someone posting a lot or using really bad grammar or being uninteresting. There are much worse acts of idiocy to encounter in person on a daily basis. How do you people face the real world without having constant migraines and/or weekly strokes?

Err: Oh man, you gotta check this out.
Meatwad: Oh yeah baby, that's a neat car she's washing. You think that's a straight 6?
Err: I think I have a straight 6.
Inignot: Ooooo, Err. Your sexual innuendo is priceless.


Starlite
(stardust savant)
08/23/04 01:37 AM
Re: The Curiously Strong TWer, of course new [re: JarethsGirl]  

In reply to:

How do you people face the real world without having constant migraines and/or weekly strokes?


Ironically enough, in much the same way.

In public places over which I've no control (ie, work or school), I never have to be around the idiots long enough for it to really bother me.

In my own social circles and hangouts, however, anyone that obnoxious would be thrown out immediately before even having the chance to cause any major disturbance. After all, no one socializes with someone who drives them crazy if they can help it, right?

But ddz74's annoyance factor would be more accurately paralleled by someone insinuating into a social space that's largely informal, but out of its inhabitors' control: say, a dorm.

There was one guy on my freshman dorm floor who was irritating beyond belief, and whom everyone hated. First they just made fun of him, then they tried to avoid him, then they tried to show him he wasn't wanted, and eventually they just complained to the Resident Assistant and dorm management enough for them to take disciplinary action.

If you get on everyone's nerves, eventually authority in a social environment will make you leave. Utlilitarian principle.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

CharlieManson
(grinning soul)
08/23/04 03:59 AM
Re: The Curiously Strong TWer, of course new [re: Starlite]  

In reply to:

If you get on everyone's nerves, eventually authority in a social environment will make you leave. Utlilitarian principle.



Ah, but there lies the crux of this wholey shaky argument, I think I am right in saying that he had 44 Bozo's, which is a lot I agree, but what about the alter egos which make up a percentage of that figure?
No everyone was annoyed by him, just those posters who think they somehow own TW.

White Prism I may have been seemingly anti DD74 in my early posts, but as I came on here, with fun as my intention, I thought it was just harmless banter and not a fully fledged witch hunt. I never thought you'd all be quite so vicious.

Don't forget that this was a real human being, with real feelings. Do you not think that even he was playing along? Being devil's advocate, an agent provocateur even? Yet, you intelligent posters fell for it.

I apologise for the seriousness of this post, I will stop taking the tablets now.

______________
Helter Skelter
______________
Bring back DD74


RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
08/23/04 04:16 AM
Re: The Curiously Strong TWer, of course new [re: JarethsGirl]  

In reply to:

How do you people face the real world without having constant migraines and/or weekly strokes?


I only get my monthly strokes since at a very young age I noticed that my skills in the field of verbal abuse were more than enough to get rid off odd morons and fuckwits littering the landscape. If those morons happened to be a majority, I simply left. If I can't beat them, I sure as hell won't join them.

In reply to:

Don't forget that this was a real human being, with real feelings


I'm sure Roman Polanski would agree...

You're gonna make me feel so cold

CharlieManson
(grinning soul)
08/23/04 04:46 AM
Reality new [re: RabbitFighter]  

Are you able to differentiate between the real world and fantasy?

______________
Helter Skelter
______________
Bring back DD74


krettis
(crash course raver)
08/23/04 06:09 AM
Too Serious new [re: CharlieManson]  

Well some posters take this board to seriously... that's my experience.
I actually was shocked how some of them really felt the need to claim how personal this board-life here was. I don't think a new generation posters will come here to fill up the old and forgotten. Due the stubern way of posting here. Over 2 years only fossiles will post here. With only the will to please themselves and disturb others.

Your dream is such a scary place to be trapped inside - Anathema
DD74 is my idol

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
08/23/04 06:21 AM
Re: Reality new [re: CharlieManson]  

Occasionally yes. Most of the time however, it's all a big violent mess.

You're gonna make me feel so cold

hangontoyourself
(electric tomato)
08/23/04 07:12 AM
Re: Too Serious new [re: krettis]  

Nice addition to the signature there Krettis. Like it! DD74 will be missed by some but I'm sure, like me, they'll find a way to keep in touch with him anyway. A lesson for the rest of us...beware, your days may be numbered for any reason so make the most of TW while you're still able!

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism
DD74 is my idolStill I'm gonna miss you

White Prism
(crash course raver)
08/23/04 07:46 AM
and I apologise for the seriousness of *this* post new [re: CharlieManson]  

Okay Charlie. Since you seem to have grave difficulty understanding the inscrutable logic behind the moderators’ decision, here’s a special post dedicated entirely to you (it’s a good one ).

True, the (one time) 45 bozos Dogz accumulated is not a very accurate indication of the exact numbers who disliked him. I’m sure some users with multiple accounts bozoed him a couple of times, but to counter that number, remember there were also several of his most vocal opponents (e.g. rabbitfighter, 96dbfreak, strawman, starlite, poorsoul, persilot, etc.) who did not bozo him. Also, there were many other long-term members who I’ve spoken to through pms who detested him, acknowledging that bozoing was futile, yet did not want to get involved publicly. I believe a good deal of these did have him bozoed, so perhaps the 45 isn’t as exaggerated as you might think, judging purely by those who have made their opinions known on the board.

Also, if you’d bothered to trace his development from when he first began posting, you’ll find that most people were annoyed by him, evidenced by the humungous-yet-still-incomplete list I compiled on Sysiyo’s thread. I’ve since remember NoGame is missing, but it’s probably too late to edit it now.

If further proof was needed that he deliberately set out to infuriate other posters, the ‘Get Real’ thread in the News Forum where he makes unfounded accusations that Max_M is an alter ego – an accusation he pursues for many posts, thus wrecking the thread – demonstrates that there will always be new members who are not familiar with Doggie’s ways who he can assault. Again, reading about him in other peoples’ posts obviously makes bozoing pointless.

In reply to:

Don't forget that this was a real human being, with real feelings.


Now this is an interesting point. I understand someone who dabbles with the criminally insane and psychotic will elicit more compassion than the average person, but his huge back-catalogue of blatant contradictions (America, his sexuality, his (non)use of expletives, the role of bozos) prove without doubt he was not real. Or, rather, he is as ‘real’ as someone playing the character of Charlie Manson, instead choosing the most provocative statement he can manufacture to suit the end of fucking up any given thread. My personal view is that he wasn’t even very good at this, which is why he had to have around a dozen attempts per thread before it truly was run into the ground.

Yes, Dogz was certainly an agent provocateur, but the impression you give that he was banned out of the blue is bullshit. He was contacted innumerable times by moderators outlining exactly how to modify his posting habits. Once he was told not to double and triple post consecutively in a thread, he simply upped his overall volume of posts. Once he was told to restrict his volume, he deliberately broke it despite it being made perfectly clear to him that he would be banned. Perhaps if you think this was some elaborate joke to keep ourselves amused you need a crash course in how to learn how to read people’s intentions, yeah?

In short, if you post reams of humourless, content-less nonsense on each thread a dozen times or more, or start threads about nothing at all (which Dogz hardly ever did . . . but I wouldn’t exactly consider your ‘Erm…’ thread a sparkling effort) then it dilutes discussion and reduces the incentive of writing anything worthwhile at all.

Which brings me to the curious 7 post rule: I found this very strange because it suggested a limit which (even though it was much less than he been posting) was a quota he had to fulfil. I wonder how many others feel obliged to post something even though they know what they’ve got to say isn’t very interesting. I’m not advocating for PhD theses, just a little more thought, dig? The fact this was completely lacking in Dogzie’s posts was probably his greatest flaw. If he’d made 30 posts-a-day in the style of Dara, no-one would have complained at all. Unfortunately, Dogzie’s entire postography constituted ignorant, reed-thin opinions about other cultures, complaining that people disagreed with him despite proving his ignorance, and prattling on about other people’s avatars. I’ve got moderator quotes that back the anti-chatting attitude up, yo. Though Dogz improved somewhat towards the end, even if he continued post he’d still have been in the running for most ignorant human being on the planet. Despite the mods giving him every opportunity to improve, they delayed his banning to the detriment of the board until they were absolutely sure he was completely without merit and there’d be no question of his return. And he was infinitely more annoying than TJ Newton.

Also, dear Charlie, while there’s presently some kind of mini-Dogz revival going on, it’s only a matter of time before all Dogz-related topics die down and the board returns to normality. Your unbecoming persecution complex about people thinking they ‘own’ TW is simply down to older members having more experience of knowing ‘what goes’ here, and having reappropriated comments and advice from moderators into making TW easier to use. With regards to your post on the other thread about someone deliberately posting in the wrong forum, you’ll probably find it’s only a matter of time before a mod relocates it in artiste (where I hope it’s destined for hasty auto-expiry oblivion ).

Now I believe I’ve had my say on the matter (big posts look knowledgeable and kewl ), but hopefully any further disagreement will be targeted at the mods via pms to avoid clogging up the boards with more Dogzshit. And, if you do, that you formulate a more compelling argument than ‘it’s not fair!’. Finally, apologies for the mixed tone for this protracted ramble; I wasn’t sure whether to mock Charlie mercilessly or address the topic in a more civilised tone, so I guess you got something in between. I guess everything just boils down to the fact that intelligent posters more popular, and the dumb people less so.

No never, no never no more
will I trust the elves of Dunsimore


krettis
(crash course raver)
08/23/04 07:50 AM
One Word new [re: White Prism]  

In-ten-tion

Your dream is such a scary place to be trapped inside - Anathema
DD74 is my idol

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
08/23/04 08:05 AM
Re: and I apologise for the seriousness of *this* post new [re: White Prism]  

I find it endlessly amusing that Max_M was originally one of the few persons who defended Dogz and even asked me to give Dogz a break. Then unfortunately he made a thread that Dogz didn't approve (tabloid trash etc) so Dogz started calling him an alter ego and so on.

Come to think of it, he warned PabloPicasso about backstabbers in these boards. Was he talking about himself all along?

You're gonna make me feel so cold

CharlieManson
(grinning soul)
08/23/04 08:30 AM
Re: and I apologise for the seriousness of *this* post new [re: White Prism]  

On the contrary, I understand the logic behind the moderators decision, sadly that logic was bowing to the minority of voiciferous "elder statesmen" of the board. I am not so much on about DD74 now, but what happens when the next person comes along, who a few people find irritating? The long term members of this group are slowly diminishing yet anyone new who comes along is mocked for making posts which were made in 2001. Or they are mocked for putting a comma in the wrong place or using more than their alloted quota of exclamation marks. I know there needs to be rules or there would be anarchy, but when a handful of posters (who seem to spend most of their time just finding fault) come down hard on people, the only outcome will be that the new member leaves. Is that what you want, an exclusive club for just you and a few select friends? If so, why don't you make your own message board, rather than hijacking a public one?

In reply to:

but I wouldn’t exactly consider your ‘Erm…’ thread a sparkling effort)


That was (possibly failing) attempt at satire, making the point that since the banning, no-one seemed to be talking at all.

In reply to:

With regards to your post on the other thread about someone deliberately posting in the wrong forum,


I think you will find that, that post was by Starlite, I didn't say the poem was in the wrong section.

The critism you state about DD74 and Max_m is very valid, and I think he did lose some points over that, however, there was an attempt to calm down, which was thwarted by people goading him into retaliation. If the people who bozoed him, or just didn't like him, they should have just left him alone, one does not prod a sleeping tiger with a stick after all.

The amoount of posts he made (in reverse order) are thus..
7,9, 8, 7, 7, 8, 7, 7. As you can see there was the one blip of 8 posts, with a return to 7 which went upwards then at the end, because, he knew the inevitable was going to happen. However, fair comment about the fact he didn't have to make 7 posts a day and that this was just a limit and I think in all honesty, if he hadn't felt the need to reply to the insults he kept getting, he would have not had to keep, nor exceed the limit.

I came on this board to have some fun (hence the name, I did not want to be taken seriously), sadly I have had to become more vocal than I wished. I just couldn't be a bystander.

If I gave the impression he was banned out of the blue, I sincerely apologise, as well, I have been a visitor to these boards for a long time before I registered and realise that DD74 gave cause for concern in some of his more outlandish comments, but surely they should be treated in the same way the likes of Rabbitfighter, Poorsoul, Beltene, Strawman and many others give outlandish retorts. As someone said in this thread, I hate to think how some of you survive in the real world, being made of such delicate constitutions.

I would like there to be an end to all this discussion now, I think enough words have been said for and against him. Let's get back to some normality (whatever that is) on the boards.

There has been enough hate and venom, it sometimes feels it is what fuels this place.

I bear no grudges, I trust everyone else can feel the same.

______________
Helter Skelter
______________
Bring back DD74


EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
08/23/04 09:14 AM
On Our Behalf new [re: RabbitFighter]  

I think it is about time now that I add a few words about the dd74 ban from the moderators' points of view. As the pros and cons of a ban have been discussed explicitely over the months I will now try to put in a few sentences about what we, the moderators that were involved in the decision, think about this. And let me put one thing first: We know that this lockout does have a down side to it.

Still we decided to do it. But not because it is such a great experience to live out the ultimate moderative power of kicking out people. Believe it or not, neither of us needs that. It also wasn't a personal thing by a single moderator who felt extra-annoyed at a certain moment in time, though all of us at some point reached that state in the process of dealing with dd74's actions. But as it isn't a single person's decision to implement a ban, a much earlier lockout (as demanded by numerous TWers) was dismissed more than once. And rightly so.

Still we had to act, for one simple reason: dd74 endangered the thing this board is about: Interaction. I am not going into how he did it, that has been done often before. And though some disagree that he caused severe problems which led to a deterioration in communication on this board we finally and fully agreed on the stance that he did. Severely. And that was when and why the present moderators decided to ban him. Unanimously. For the first time.

But we also agreed on something else: Probation. The ban on dd74 will last until the end of September. Two reasons for that: Firstly all of us here at TW will have time to check if and how things are better without the dd74 of the current kind. Secondly we acknowledge the fact that some people here object to the ban though we don't share their arguments to the extend that dd74 has to be kept on board in any case whatsoever. See this as a compromise.

By the end of next month dd74 will get back access to Teenagewildlife.com. This doesn't mean that all will be forgiven and forgotten by then. If dd74's original actions reappear in the same style as before he will be banned with much shorter notice. And for good.

See you later.


And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


Starlite
(stardust savant)
08/23/04 09:53 AM
No prude like a reformed whore new [re: CharlieManson]  

In reply to:

a handful of posters (who seem to spend most of their time just finding fault) come down hard on people, the only outcome will be that the new member leaves


Blah blah blah, cliques, exclusive, blah.

I think you'll find, dear Charlie, that all of this is simply due to your being a newbie, and thus will not be taken seriously, because every damn newbie complains about the same thing.

I did. White Prism did. I don't even know how many others did.

Then they learn the ways of the board and suck it up, or better yet, realize that it's not entirely true, and much rejoicing follows.

However,

In reply to:

an exclusive club for just you and a few select friends


Actually, yes. Mind you, that's not to say we want to keep new blood out. Heck, White Prism is pretty new, and yet he's made a place for himself, hasn't he?

But it's true; we don't want every and any dreck that comes along to post here. TW's semi-ritual "hazing" is a way to familiarize new posters with our messageboard's culture, and to maintain at least some type of quality control (dirty word, I know). Those who "get" the modus operandi here will be accepted happily into the fold. Those who don't will either be encouraged to modify their posting style/reactions (ie, not to get personally upset at random insults, to deal with alter egoes, etc) and after an adjustment period, fully become a part of TW as well--or they will see that this place is not for them, and leave.

If the archives are still in operation, I can show you a much sweeter, more innocent Starlite of two years ago, who complained about all the meanies here and asked for wider acceptance and peace and love. That Starlite had to die.

In reply to:

surely they should be treated in the same way the likes of Rabbitfighter, Poorsoul, Beltene, Strawman and many others give outlandish retorts.


No, because theirs are actually entertaining.

In reply to:

There has been enough hate and venom, it sometimes feels it is what fuels this place.


Bingo!!

In reply to:

what happens when the next person comes along, who a few people find irritating?


Well, if he or she will be given much time to prove his/her mettle, up until 90% of the board find him/her irritating, at which point he/she will be given another year's time to test his/her behavior... I think that would be more than fair.

Anyway, "irritating" and "worthless" are different things. I have at times found half of our regular posters highly irritating, as I'm sure have many others, and yet there's been no wish to ban them.

Finally, as per your comments regarding me on the Plastique thread (seeing as it's been brought up here)... yeah, God forbit I try to be helpful to a new poster and explain that deliberately putting threads into wrong forums would be looked down upon. Obviously, I should have just waited until other people started heaping abuse on this person for this reason, rather than presume to offer some advice.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

CharlieManson
(grinning soul)
08/23/04 10:20 AM
Re: No prude like a reformed whore new [re: Starlite]  

Hello Starlite, the comment on the Plastique thread, was just a joke, nothing more, I brought it up here because WhitePrism erroneously attributed me with saying she posted her (excretable) poem in the wrong thread.

In reply to:

Blah blah blah, cliques, exclusive, blah.
I think you'll find, dear Charlie, that all of this is simply due to your being a newbie, and thus will not be taken seriously, because every damn newbie complains about the same thing."


As I have said, I have been a viewer for over a year now, and see the above statement come up so often, maybe there is a reason the newbie's feel like that.
I do however understand the quality control argument and think that where the quality really dips is the infighting. A well written message of inightful advice is worth more than 100 posts of abuse. Although I can see that DD74 has ignored some of the advice he has been given.

I sometimes wish I had thought harder when picking a name to register here, as I am sure now I have started posting more "wordy" messages a few posters might ignore them due to the "jokey" nature of my name, however I cannot be bothered to reregister. My words are my own though, I speak them sincerely, and am glad that the moderators are seeing it in their power to give DD74 another chance. I hope we can all be adult enough to make that chance fair. Come september it will be day one, let's judge him on the posts he makes, not the posts he made. Maybe, he can become an asset to the boards, maybe not, but let the outcome be on his shoulders and not through any preconceived ideas of what he is/was.

Now I really need to lie down, I have written too much today.

NURSE! NURSE!!

______________
Helter Skelter
______________
Bring back DD74


th0mas
(acolyte)
08/23/04 10:59 AM
Re: On Our Behalf new [re: EJSunday]  

In reply to:

Probation.


big mistake, big, big, big mistake. why giving him a chance after already giving him a chance after giving him a chance (which eh all refused to use for getting his habbits in line)? i just don't see what it is good for apart from making him reappear, annoy all people interested in discussing (rather than merely expressing their own opinion) and getting again the backup of some people who will - being completly unable to read and follow posts like yours or white prism's - accuse the moderators of being dictators once more. the threads about dd74 of the last few days will reappear 1:1, because some people just won't understand that an online forum is depending on some level of netiquette and that in some cases a minority can be wrong as well. just keep that asshole banned forever. the whole 7-post-idea already was a mistake, look how those people (who wouldn't understand it, even if you paid dd74 a ransom for leaving the forum) just used this new device as an opportunity to make more ammunition for their useless, brainless, uninsightful, stupid, superflous postings. this whole incident will just repeat itself. and once again the whole forum will need several weeks to get back to some natural rythm again. such a temporarily ban would have made sense earlier. but trying to be nice to be nice to someone who did not deserve it nor knew how to thank you for your offers, just lead that thing to a bigger problem.

"Have you tried... not being a mutant?"

pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
08/23/04 11:08 AM
We all deserve another chance. new [re: th0mas]  

Well thanks for keeping an open mind Thomas. I have been in discussion with DD74 a lot over the last few days and he feels remorse for what has gone before and relishes the chance of having a fresh start. He has said he is not going to get into "fights" with people, even when provoked.
Just give the guy one chance, that's all.

Now I did say I wasn't going to say anymore, in my first post, but that was when I thought he was banned forever. But I intend this to be my last now. Shall we as was said by Charlie, just judge him on what he does from now on? Haven't we all made mistakes. I got into a lot of arguments a few weeks ago, and I think I have become a better poster because of it. I thank all my detractors for giving me the chance to redeem myself. Now, maybe belatedly, maybe undeservedly, DD74 has been given one FINAL chance, I hope he doesn't mess it up, and I hope no-one messes it up for him.



If you want me to play, I will.
If you want me to not play at all, I won't.
Whatever it is that pleases you Paul, I'll do it.


Starlite
(stardust savant)
08/23/04 11:18 AM
Re: No prude like a reformed whore new [re: CharlieManson]  

In reply to:

maybe there is a reason the newbie's feel like that.


Yes, the criticism is, of course grounded in reality--I think everyone admits that. The only un-true part of it is the accusation (not made by you, but previously made by others) that there's some kind of cohesive coalition of the Old Guard who actively try to exclude others.

It's now become part of the TW hazing though, and since we do continue to get new posters (ie, you ), it seems like it's not as much of a deterrent as some have prophesized.

In reply to:

however I cannot be bothered to reregister


I think if you're a new user, you might be able to change your name with out re-registering through the Fan Registry. Not 100% sure though, since I heard it's been broken lately.

Oh, and I just wanted to take the time on this thread to comment on the successful improvement of a poster I previously protested against: pablopicasso. I had some grievances with him a few months ago, but thanks to his efforts, I've noticed that his posts have become a lot more insightful and interesting, and he now seems to me to be a very worthwhile contributor to TW. I hope other newbies take him as a model.

Maybe if I write this now, while drunk, you'll all understand.

th0mas
(acolyte)
08/23/04 11:30 AM
one. not one gazillion. new [re: pablopicasso]  

In reply to:

Well thanks for keeping an open mind Thomas.


you stick your open mind into your damn ass. i tried "to keep an open mind" way too long with the result that dd74 just kept on annoying me. i don't see why i should do that once more. i give a shit about what dd74 told you because he is simply a motherfucking idiot and won't ever change as he has proven us again and again. therefore it makes no difference whether i judge him on what he does from september on. he will fuck the thing up once more. and i refuse to pay the price for giving him another chance which won't lead to any other result than him being banned after destroying several good threads. its nice that the mods give him one more chance, but i won't. and if any poster messes up dogz' chance, i doubt i would have any problem with it.

"Have you tried... not being a mutant?"

poorsoul
(acolyte)
08/23/04 12:12 PM
While We're Being All Gushy... new [re: CharlieManson]  

In reply to:

As I have said, I have been a viewer for over a year now, and see the above statement come up so often, maybe there is a reason the newbies feel like that.



I believe you do have a valid point there. Noone's denying that there are cliques here and that, as a consequence of them sharing the same point of view, certain posters can be seen to be ganging up on others they see as stepping out of line. While it'd be great if everyone got along and threads didn't degrade into the bitter exchange of snide remarks, at the same time, it's part of what makes TW such an interesting site to visit. I'm sure you could spend hours pouring over the feuds between Stu and R/R or Stu and Strawman or Stu and... well, you get the point. It's hard to tell how seriously the involved parties take it (which is probably part of the problem with the newbie hazing) but for outside observers it can be quite hilarious.

It also serves as quite a useful screening process. Unless you have a thick skin or something intelligent to contribute, you're not going to last long. Sure, it's a form of elitism but it's a lot better than having the board flooded with B.Net-type Laby-fawners, starting a new thread every second day about how much they like Bowie in tights. And when such posters do appear, they either change or fork out their $70 and gush away to their heart's content.

In reply to:

I do however understand the quality control argument and think that where the quality really dips is the infighting. A well written message of inightful advice is worth more than 100 posts of abuse.



Although nowhere near as entertaining.

In reply to:

Although I can see that DD74 has ignored some of the advice he has been given.



And, since we're not privy to his private messages, we can't be fully aware of the extent of that advice. I must admit, he (whether real or not) did improve but he flaunted the rules and now he's paying the price.

Also, since you brought up the subject of my posting patterns, I'll be the first one to admit my contributions have had a tendency to be inane and nonsensical but for some stange reason some people find them to be amusing. Others, like Starlite and power2charm, however, openly criticised me, the latter somewhat more aggresively, yet now I have the former actually defending me. Admittedly, I completely disregarded their comments; I understood where they were coming from, I just didn't let it get under my skin, partly because I was aware of what I was doing and also because while having my detractors, I seem to have accumulated a notable selection of admirers. Personally, I think most of them are crazy but, hey, so am I. The lesson is, if you're going to be annoying, at least do it in a way that keeps the mods on your side.

In reply to:

I sometimes wish I had thought harder when picking a name to register here, as I am sure now I have started posting more "wordy" messages a few posters might ignore them due to the "jokey" nature of my name, however I cannot be bothered to reregister.



Actually, although I can only speak for myself, I found it to be quite the contrary. When you first made your appearance, given your smooth entrance, apparent knowledge of the workings of the board and, most of all, your assumed identity, I took you to be some form alterego in the manner of Ann Landers or Monkeyboy (although I'm quite sure if they deigned to respond to this post it would be to assert their authenticity). Now, though, after reading your wordy messages, as you put it, I think you've demonstrated that this is not the case, that you're not merely some character-alter. Of course, I could be completely mistaken and you might find my taking you seriously rather amusing but that's part of the fun.

In reply to:

My words are my own though, I speak them sincerely, and am glad that the moderators are seeing it in their power to give DD74 another chance. I hope we can all be adult enough to make that chance fair. Come september it will be day one, let's judge him on the posts he makes, not the posts he made.



I absolutely agree. I find it quite interesting that my name has been bandied about quite a bit in this line of discussion, as I never considered myself one of the crew working towards his removal. Sure, I started his fan club and a lot of my interactions with him were in the form of snide comments questioning his intelligence and, of course, the thread which was the precursor for this one, I never once suggested he should be banned.

However, given his behaviour, his apparent flaunting of the rules laid down for him and his uncanny ability to provoke the ire of even the most sane people on the board, even I could see that things had to change and, seeing the chance to set things in motion, I did what I felt was the best thing to do. I had assumed that would be the end of it but now, hearing the news that the door will be open for his return, I don't feel aggrieved in the slightest. If he reforms, great; if he doesn't, he won't be around long enough to get up too many people's noses. Either way, it's no skin off mine.

In reply to:

NURSE! NURSE!!!



Yes, I think it's time to try changing our medication. I hear Dogz is supplying.

999



Marquis
(acolyte)
08/23/04 01:50 PM
A Modest Proposal new [re: poorsoul]  

I think the easiest and best way to solve problems like this in the future is to act right now and instate Dara as TW's own God-Emperor. In each case of possible banning, one poster from either side of the argument (possibly to be determined by moderators, possibly by group consensus) would fly to Dublin to present their case and sacrifice a few lambs on His altar. Dara would then pass judgement, and we would all praise His wise decision.

Alternately, we could just have Dara come back every few months and randomly strike down whomever He pleased.

edited to make Dara more Godlike than He already is

Sadness is for poor people.

Edited by Marquis on 08/23/04 02:20 PM (server time).



pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
08/23/04 01:54 PM
Re: A Modest Proposal new [re: Marquis]  

I would accept that.

If you want me to play, I will.
If you want me to not play at all, I won't.
Whatever it is that pleases you Paul, I'll do it.


John_Q_Public
(mortal with potential)
08/23/04 03:30 PM
Re: We all deserve another chance. new [re: pablopicasso]  

In reply to:

He has said he is not going to get into "fights" with people, even when provoked.


Has he said anything about not posting endless mindless drivel?

Don’t hide your head in the sand, Pablo, it was never about “fights”. Fights are what makes the TW world go round, whether they’re real or pretend. People enjoy a good fight at TW, whether as participant or observer. Fighting was never the problem with DD74 and if he’s trying to fool himself into believing that these mythical “fights” were the reason for his banishment then he’s going to get a rude awakening.

The problem is and always has been the 12.2 posts per day of inane drivel. The problem is that he can’t see a thread without thinking that he must contribute to it, however pointlessly. The problem is that he posts crap in such obtrusive volume that it throws out the flow of every thread that he participates in (which is basically every Goddamn thread he comes across).

He annoyed people because of his prevalence, not his presence. And he’s been advised of this time and time again, and chose to disregard that advice time and time again. If he continues to disregard that advice when he is allowed back in, and goes back to ruining the flow of threads with multiple posts of irrelevant inane drivel, his tenure may be foreshortened once again and hopefully, this time, permanently.

Probation? Pussies!

Johnny plays the sitar, he's an existentialist

EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
08/24/04 03:07 AM
Re: On Our Behalf new [re: th0mas]  

In reply to:

but trying to be nice to be nice to someone who did not deserve it nor knew how to thank you for your offers, just lead that thing to a bigger problem.


Seems like I did not make this clear enough: The temporary ban until the end of September is not meant as being nice to dd74 but as a concession to those TWers who put down valid points why a ban contradicts their understanding of this message board.

In reply to:

this whole incident will just repeat itself.


As said before: If dd74 sticks to what he did before he is out. Quickly and for good.

th0mas, I fully understand your arguments and the demand for an immediate and complete ban - all well thought and said. Still there is more than one opinion around when it comes to banning people from TW in general. And that's what has to be considered by those who control the lockout button. May it even contradict their own opinions.

In reply to:

(John_Q_Public:) The problem is that he posts crap in such obtrusive volume that it throws out the flow of every thread that he participates in (which is basically every Goddamn thread he comes across).


That is indeed why I said that the reason for the ban is the severe damage to communication and interaction on this board by dd74. If this was about fights everybody who ever got involved in a NoControl thread would have been long out - myself included.


And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


JonnyManic
(stardust savant)
08/24/04 07:44 PM
The Rise and Fall of a Clown new [re: pablopicasso]  

I must say, I found DD74 to be one of the most offensive posters here. I found him to be bigotted and offensive and thought he should have been banned. TW should offer no platform to the kind of things he was talking about and we really should have nipped it in the bud then. After a while though, it became crushingly obvious that the guy was just a total idiot who was spouting some nonsense that had no doubt been drilled into his head by all sorts of means. He sort of settled into a general pattern of just being dumb and I really didn't care if he was banned or not. He was just there.

Now that he's gone, I can't help feeling a little dissapointed. As annoying as he was, he had started to feel like a piece of the furniture. Not a good piece, hell no. Maybe an old, battered chair left by the old owners with ripped upholstery and odd stains on the arm. Certainly, I'm not going to miss his presence but I can't help feeling that our impatience with the silly old sod speaks as much about our intolerance as it does his arseheadedness.

I mean, really, I found the guy very trying but did he cause me any serious or meaningful inconvenience? If I'm honest, not really. I always had the option of engaging with him or skirting over his nonsense, and he sometimes provoked some lively discussion with his peanut-like mental capacity. On the other hand, I'm sure that TW gave the chimp no end of fun which we've now denied him.

Finally ridding ourselves of Dogz seems a somewhat hollow victory to me.

Jay, you are a capital ess, another ess I see...

forgetthatim50
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/24/04 09:05 PM
Re: The Rise and Fall of a Clown new [re: JonnyManic]  

Don't worry it all starts again at the end of September.



Tin
(cracked actor)
08/25/04 02:39 AM
It's so obvious, to me anyway new [re: forgetthatim50]  

That anyone, like ddz, who could create so much controversy has some sort of power, negative or positive.

Is it not still our choice to ignore, not read posts by and not engage with those who bug the hell out of us to no good end? Very much like TV or radio... don't like it, shut it off/tune it out.

If no one had continually engaged ddz, he'd likely have moved on to another board or become a lesser presence here. Now we simply have more wasted space discussing the very bane ad nauseum, along with the looming knowledge he will return, likely with venom. Sheesh.

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

Beltene
(crash course raver)
08/25/04 06:30 AM
Re: While We're Being All Gushy... new [re: poorsoul]  

This message board had the unique opportunity to witness Beltene's evolutionary changes. Somewhere along the way Beltene became better than you. Some of you simply accepted the fact and moved on, others, like Marquis and WhitePrism, continued to question Beltene's superiority.

So yeah, it's been emotional.


Pallas Athena

th0mas
(acolyte)
08/25/04 08:25 AM
Re: It's so obvious, to me anyway new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

Is it not still our choice to ignore, not read posts by and not engage with those who bug the hell out of us to no good end? Very much like TV or radio... don't like it, shut it off/tune it out.


right, and it would have been our choice to leave this forum. he was bozoed more than 40 times. it did not work. and this discussion wastes much less space than all the threads which simply did not developed in the right way because he crapped them up.
and reading in the forum is for me much more fun now that there is no idiot lurking at least once in every thread.

"Have you tried... not being a mutant?"

pa6lopicasso
(absolute beginner )
08/28/04 09:24 PM
Re: It's so obvious, to me anyway new [re: th0mas]  

In reply to:

and reading in the forum is for me much more fun now that there is no idiot lurking at least once in every thread.


how can U be so sure?

Ich liebe Justin

pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
08/29/04 01:59 AM
Re: It's so obvious, to me anyway new [re: pa6lopicasso]  

Oh great, another idiot.

If at first you don't succeed, it probably wasn't worth doing in the first place

poorsoul
(acolyte)
08/29/04 02:26 AM
It's Like Looking Into A Living Snow-Mirror new [re: pablopicasso]  

Why are you insulting yourself?

This Time It Works



th0mas
(acolyte)
08/29/04 03:49 AM
Re: It's so obvious, to me anyway new [re: pablopicasso]  

yep, and a pretty sad one. i am afraid the decrease of the alter egoes quality reached a new level. wonder what they are searching for, down there.

"Have you tried... not being a mutant?"

pa6lopicasso
(absolute beginner )
08/29/04 04:35 AM
Re: It's so obvious, to me anyway new [re: th0mas]  

You just haven't discovered Justin yet, have you?

Oh Justin, come down from heaven and show these children the way.

Ich liebe Justin

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
08/29/04 02:31 PM
On the Rules new [re: EJSunday]  

In reply to:

Seems like I did not make this clear enough: The temporary ban until the end of September is not meant as being nice to dd74 but as a concession to those TWers who put down valid points why a ban contradicts their understanding of this message board.


And of course, a temporary ban is what the great rules of TW, that were passed from Evan onto us, demand us to do.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
08/29/04 02:37 PM
Re: On the Rules new [re: Sysiyo]  

Sysiyo, what are your views on pathetic clones?

If at first you don't succeed, it probably wasn't worth doing in the first place

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
08/29/04 02:50 PM
On Pathetic Clones new [re: pablopicasso]  

Each user should have a right to his or hers own identity, and users violating the foresaid right by creating stupid alter egoes should be cremated alive.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
08/29/04 02:54 PM
Did you grow balls in Portugal? new [re: Sysiyo]  

Aren't we manly today? I'm getting pretty aroused...

"I feel sorry for people who don't drink.
They wake up in the morning and that's the best they're going to feel all day."


pa6lopicasso
(mortal with potential)
08/29/04 08:07 PM
Re: On Pathetic Clones new [re: Sysiyo]  

In reply to:

Each user should have a right to his or hers own identity, and users violating the foresaid right by creating stupid alter egoes should be cremated alive.


Does this mean the imminent demise of the net’s number 1 Justin fan?

Dara was right to quit. You people are drunk with power. You brook no deviation from the elite position. Today TW, tomorrow......

Before I’m banned can I just say All Hail Justin!

Ich liebe Justin

pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
08/29/04 08:10 PM
Re: On Pathetic Clones new [re: pa6lopicasso]  

You are the weakest link.....Goodbye.

If at first you don't succeed, it probably wasn't worth doing in the first place

pa6lopicasso
(mortal with potential)
08/29/04 08:23 PM
Re: On Pathetic Clones new [re: pablopicasso]  

See Anne Robinson?



That's your girlfriend, that is!

Ich liebe Justin

poorsoul
(acolyte)
08/29/04 11:29 PM
Sunrise new [re: Sysiyo]  

In reply to:

Each user should have a right to his or hers own identity and users violating the foresaid right by creating stupid alter egoes should be cremated alive.



Except in the case of diamondogzzz74. He was sheer brilliance.

This Time It Works



hangontoyourself
(electric tomato)
08/30/04 11:08 AM
Re: On Pathetic Clones new [re: pa6lopicasso]  

http://www.justintimberlake.com/

Now FUCK OFF!

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism
DD74 is my idolStill I'm gonna miss you

Humbert
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/20/05 02:31 AM
Re: On Our Behalf new [re: EJSunday]  

As said before: If dd74 sticks to what he did before he is out. Quickly and for good.

Then why is he still here?

"Part of Iggy Pop's unique sort of integrity is that the man doesn't seem to know how to sell out, even when he tries..."- Mark Deming.

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/20/05 03:51 AM
Re: On Our Behalf new [re: Humbert]  

Oh I wish the same could be said of you. At least Anthony has some positivity about him, you are one of the most negative, sarcastic poster I have had the displeasure of ever seeing on this board. Look at your reponse to DiamondDave in interpretation today. Was there any need to be like that? If there is one person who really gets on my tits, it is you Humbert, prepare to be bozoed.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


White Prism
(cracked actor)
07/20/05 04:44 AM
DDZ: The Human Toilet new [re: Humbert]  

In reply to:

Then why is he still here?


My guess is that it's because around half of the original hit squad no longer post or now post infrequently. From what has been aired on the boards and through a number of private correspondences (particularly from those posters who didn't want to voice public disapproval to avoid Dogz yapping at their heals) he is responsible above any other poster for driving worthy contributors away from TW. Now without strong vocal opposition it appears the moderators are content to let Dogz reign unregulated, transforming what was once a decent message board into his private journal despite his repeated infringement of these sagacious rules penned by Ohramona. As it is, we've sorta become so desensitised to him and put up with him for so long, it might be worthwhile reminding ourselves with a pictorial illustration of what the boards were like before and after Dogz joined:


Before                                 After

Pablo has a slight point about your cynicism (you're almost as bad as I am now ), though from the on-topic posts you've made you're clearly pretty intelligent and might benefit from switching over into a livejournal or blog of some sort if you want a more consistent standard in discussion.

Ohro, is the reintroduction of the 'Seven Dogturds-a-Day Rule' too much to ask?

Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking when I said
I’d like to smash every tooth in your head


Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/20/05 06:00 AM
Re: DDZ: The Human Toilet new [re: White Prism]  

I must complain in the strongest terms about WhitePrism's analogy comparing an evil force destroying something very important to the events in New York!


















(For the sake of our American cousins, this was satire).

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


eraserhead
(stardust savant)
07/20/05 10:11 AM
Prism made the post of the week new [re: White Prism]  

Since this is the (semi-)official diamonddogz74 thread, I would like to take this opportunity to ask him a question that's been in the back of my mind for a very long time. Some time ago (like six months ago, if memory serves me right), Dogz labelled himself "asexual". I think he even said this on numerous occasions - that he was in fact an asexual person. Then, some months ago, he posted pictures of himself and - as I understood it - his boyfriend, who was a fairly normal-looking guy, btw. So, could someone reveal to me the mystery that is Dogz' sexuality? Are you asexual or not?

What I like about Dogz, btw, is that he seems to really care for his dog. Not everyone who has a dog cares about his dog, but Dogz seems to do care a great deal. I think that shows that, deep down, he is a good guy.

Though, on second thought, didn't Hitler also have a great, genuine affection for his dogs?

Also, isn't this forum, the feedback forum, the by far greatest TW forum. It's always been the best. Even if you go back three or four years, this was a great forum. Never a bad thread. I myself have had numerous blockbuster threads in this forum, and these last few months, there have been some truly entertaining, scary, and thought-provoking stuff posted here.




GFried: What aspect of your personallity do you think makes you post at a David Bowie message board?
Dara: For me it's pretty much an interest in David Bowie.


diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/20/05 11:14 AM
Re: Prism made the post of the week new [re: eraserhead]  

In reply to:

Since this is the (semi-)official diamonddogz74 thread, I would like to take this opportunity to ask him a question that's been in the back of my mind for a very long time. Some time ago (like six months ago, if memory serves me right), Dogz labelled himself "asexual". I think he even said this on numerous occasions - that he was in fact an asexual person. Then, some months ago, he posted pictures of himself and - as I understood it - his boyfriend, who was a fairly normal-looking guy, btw. So, could someone reveal to me the mystery that is Dogz' sexuality? Are you asexual or not?


That person is my long term male partner, It is not a sexual relationship, why does sex have to come into everything? I prefer the company of a male partner for living/travelling and expense.

YES I am asexual and have NO interest in sex, I do find females very attractive and pretty though.

In reply to:

What I like about Dogz, btw, is that he seems to really care for his dog. Not everyone who has a dog cares about his dog, but Dogz seems to do care a great deal. I think that shows that, deep down, he is a good guy.


Quite simply my dog ( Effee ) means the whole world to me.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/20/05 11:41 AM
Dara, please dispatch that grotty pooch! new [re: White Prism]  

Here's a bit of a fun pseudofact:* I did a bit of counting today of what I considered the "hot spots" of TW (i.e. the first page of News, the first of VQ, the first two of C.S.) and discovered that of all the posts made on those 4 pages of threads, nearly 12.5% of them were made by Dogz, and only 5 threads were completely void of his noxious presence.

If I could bear to look at that ugly dog a bit more, I'd have liked to find out how many of his posts used the quote function without need. My guess is around 94%.

*(pseudo- because of the dubious scientific authority of my research)

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/20/05 01:31 PM
Thomas Jefferson can kiss my ass new [re: Marquis]  

I know that this is a reversal of many of my rants and that it is probably at odds with my ultimate free speech manifesto(s), but fuck it: I would fully support a new ban on Ddgz.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/20/05 01:33 PM
Re: Prism made the post of the week new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

YES I am asexual and have NO interest in sex...
...Quite simply my dog ( Effee ) means the whole world to me.


Is Effee a barker or a howler?

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/20/05 01:40 PM
Re: Prism made the post of the week new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Is Effee a barker or a howler?


She barks, little dogs tend to bark rather than howl, apart from that she is perfect.

What about you MonkeyBoy! are you a barker or a howler?


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/20/05 01:57 PM
Re: Prism made the post of the week new [re: diamondogz74]  

So does fucking a female dog make you Bi?

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/20/05 02:04 PM
Re: Prism made the post of the week new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Fat man being asked a question by a child.

Q/ So tell me why are you so fat?

A/ Because everytime I fucked your mother she gave me cake


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/20/05 02:10 PM
Re: Prism made the post of the week new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Fat man being asked a question by a child.


You do realize that you just called yourself fat, right? Or you have no grasp of what's going on and called yourself a child. Either way, you are a fucking moron.

In reply to:

Q/ So tell me why are you so fat?

A/ Because everytime I fucked your mother she gave me cake


And that just makes it all the more moronic. Because, see, if you were calling me fat, now you are claiming that I fucked your mother. If you were calling me a child, you are asking yourself why you are fat and telling yourself that you fucked your own mother.

But mostly I think you are just blindly swinging and hoping something hits. As always.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/20/05 02:27 PM
Re: Prism made the post of the week new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

But mostly I think you are just blindly swinging and hoping something hits. As always.


YAWN!


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/20/05 02:46 PM
Third Time's a Charm new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

I know that this is a reversal of many of my rants and that it is probably at odds with my ultimate free speech manifesto(s), but fuck it: I would fully support a new ban on Ddgz.


And I hope you can appreciate, Antoinette, what it means that someone who bent over backwards defending you - despite not liking you - has been driven to reverse his position.

I've also been wondering whether if, in addition to driving off good posters, Dogz is an active encouragement to our less mentally sound posters. It's a time-honored TW tradition to force robo-turds like b_mardle and JAMIESIM to either shape up (as blacktropic84 has) or ship out (like hangontoyourself) - seeing the Queen Marm get away with thread-murder on a daily basis can't be good for these impressionable minds.

You know, more than anything, I'm just tired of reading and talking about Dogz. I'm not gung-ho about banning anyone at the moment, but Humbert's point is quite valid: if the criteria for the original banning (omnipresence, inanity, etc.) are still valid, then Antoinette's got a lot of 'splainin' to do.

I will issue this challenge to the anti-banners, though: if you can find 5 posts out of his last 50 (i.e. two days worth) which you honestly believe would stand up to the most basic tests of standards (i.e. contributes even an inkling of thought/interesting content/something other than "I dont know? please! tell me? cause! i"m too lazy to use google!!!!") then I'll never call for his banning again.

I'll sure as hell vote for it, though.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Persilot
(stardust savant)
07/20/05 06:23 PM
Re: Third Time's a Charm new [re: Marquis]  

I'm just scared that if DD74 was truly banned, all that would actually happen would be a sullen silence descending onto these boards, with people posting messages about how great the old days were.

"Lovejoy fathered my child."

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/20/05 06:34 PM
The problem with Ddgz new [re: Marquis]  

Believe it or not, I'm just as tired as anyone of reading Ddgz-related posts. But as someone who prides himself on bullying ability, I feel that I would be doing this board a dis-service to make this anything less than a truly inhospitable environment for him. True, he doesn't take anything to heart (and he really should), but I don't think I could live with myself if I didn't take every opportunity to kick him. And it isn't a joke, it isn't an ongoing "bit" like it is with some people -- I really do hate Ddgz. Hate. With a passion. He is a giant, stupid tumor that is slowly killing this message board. His posts are the multiple armpits of the internet. If he were to die in the most horrible way imaginable, I would be glad that he was gone. And yes, I mean every word of that. But he is so totally dense that none of that will ever be taken to heart. So the cycle continues: he does something fundamentally retarded, I bash him, he replies with a moronic "come back", I bash him, we eventually move on to another thread where it all happens again. I am aware of the futility of this, but as someone who still holds out hope for human nature, I think I just can't let go of the dream that some day he'll realize that maybe we aren't just "being mean" because it's fun.

What amazes me even more than his utter lack of any mental prowess or posting quality is his tenacity to stick around a message board where most people would like to see him publicly stoned (the Biblical kind).

Moderators, please ban him. Ban him now. You know you want to.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

JAMIESIM
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/20/05 07:12 PM
Re: Thomas Jefferson can kiss my ass new [re: Monkeyboy]  

What would you do Monkeyboy if dd74 was banned your whole existence around this place would be up for consideration, all you do on a daily basis is insult him and try and ultimitly fail to piss him off.



RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
07/20/05 07:18 PM
Just passing through new [re: Humbert]  

I'd just like to express my gratitude for someone bringing this thread back. As far as I can see it's a real milestone in TW's inner politics and more than anything else, damn fine reading too!

Not sure if I have anything mindblowing to add since Marquis already pointed out the delicate process known as "Culling the fuckwits TW style". Blacktropic has really come a long way from that obnoxious person whose head I wanted to bash against cement floor to someone whose posts are worth reading and who even manages to be amusing intentionally.

In reply to:

out (like hangontoyourself)


I must say that I praise the lord (Tom Wood in TW's case) for the day that the vile excuse for a human being in question logged out more or less permanently. Does anyone know if Keithism site is still fine and dandy or has the webmistress finally committed an accidental lobotomy while eating a yoghurt with a particularly sharp spoon?

As for the matter of banning Dogz I must say that I feel spectacularly indiffirent right now. First I thought I might be getting soft but it's more likely a case of focusing the righteous fury on other subjects. So, who's willing to hang JAMIESIM from his own entrails?

Let me get my hands
On your mammary glands


Starlite
(stardust savant)
07/20/05 07:21 PM
Let sleeping dgz lie? new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Eh, I don't know, I find that ddz doesn't bother me much anymore (and if you recall, I was one of the most gung-ho ban supporters way back when).

His grammar has vastly improved, he now mostly posts in full sentences, and there's usually at least one thought of some kind in his posts. If not all of them (I admit the "bantering" with Monkeyboy is pure splenda), at least some of them.

Also, I feel that by now he's integrated himself into the fabric of the board and shaped TW enough to call what he posts a contribution to the general culture. He's like what TJ was. He's, to me, a fairly valuable in-joke. I mean, we've always had annoying/puzzling/cult posters, right? They come and go, but they're always these characters that make TW special. Like Claude and his pic spams and three-word smiley posts interrupted every-so-often by an outrageous statement. (I love Claude. I hope we'll never be rid of him. He's so Claude.) And Beltene and her innumerable sex threads. And Tom Woo, back when he still posted, and all his Xs and Eyes. Eventually, if they don't break, we have to give in to their persistance and accept them, nay, even cherish them.

(But I still don't think Blacktropic has improved/changed very much.)



RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
07/20/05 07:34 PM
Nitpicking new [re: Starlite]  

I really think you should separate genuine cultposters such as Beltene and especially the venerable Doctor Woo from the crowd that consists of people who get puzzled when it's time to tie shoelaces or do anything that doesn't involve drooling and few LOLs.

Admit it, you felt all warm and fuzzy inside when the letter X graced your pm inbox. I'm talking about deep intellectual satisfaction and not the usual "Oh cute, Claude is posting porn again" type of behaviour.

Let me get my hands
On your mammary glands


Persilot
(stardust savant)
07/20/05 07:35 PM
Northern Solidarity new [re: RabbitFighter]  

In reply to:

So, who's willing to hang JAMIESIM from his own entrails?


I feel at this juncture that I have to stand up a little for JAMIESIM. O.K, so his spelling and grammar can be pretty appalling, he's clashed a little with some of the more prominent members of this board and he has an irritating BLOCKCAPITAL name but at least his heart is in the right place.

I mean unlike some posters I could name whose sole contribution revolves around spouting mindless gibberish onto otherwise fine posts other people have started, he does at least try and start off topics discussing current events and music. He's trying to make a valid contribution despite the scorn.

Not everyone is naturally eloquent. Give him some time and space and I'm sure he may surprise some of you. Plus he’s from Newcastle, so I can’t yet believe that he’s without hope. He’s northern and a Bowie fan… surely that counts for something?

To JAMIESIM I say this. I know that it seems stupid that people should be annoyed more about the way you write than what you are writing, but you have to remember this is a messageboard. Here we communicate through the medium of words. It’s one of the more subtle ways that we develop impressions of each other since many of us never meet face to face. Tweak up your grammar a bit and you’ll find peoples respect for you goes straight up.

"Lovejoy fathered my child."

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/20/05 07:43 PM
Re: Thomas Jefferson can kiss my ass new [re: JAMIESIM]  

I'd probably shift my focus on to you.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
07/20/05 07:54 PM
Re: Northern Solidarity new [re: Persilot]  

I see your point about his "redeeming" qualities and I certainly wasn't implying that he should be banned or anything silly. I was merely thinking aloud that if one of you Brits happened to be around his neighbourhood with a sharpened cleaver, I might be reasonably thankful for whatever the results might be.

Not sure if looking after your own is heartwarming or plain disgusting though. I'd like to think that 90% of humankind is universally handicapped no matter where they live. Sure, you might be more inclined to help the gibbering fool next door across the road (for sentimental reasons obviously) than the gimp on the other side of the world but that doesn't give him any more hope in the long run.

Let me get my hands
On your mammary glands


Persilot
(stardust savant)
07/20/05 07:58 PM
Re: Northern Solidarity new [re: RabbitFighter]  

In reply to:

I was merely thinking aloud that if one of you Brits happened to be around his neighbourhood with a sharpened cleaver


So is that a hint for me and Strawman?

"Lovejoy fathered my child."

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
07/20/05 08:03 PM
Re: Northern Solidarity new [re: Persilot]  

Well Strawie's a trained chef and you seem to have a healthy interest towards all things medieval so I'd like to think you guys know how to handle sharpened objects reasonably well...

Let me get my hands
On your mammary glands


anisette
(stardust savant)
07/20/05 08:09 PM
Stats new [re: Monkeyboy]  

To go back to the topic of Dogz statz, I'd like to estimate that roughly 33.333333repeating % of all material on this board is dedicated solely to either the humoring or dissing of Dogz. For every post that Dogz makes, there are subsequently 3-4 inane (inane because they attempt to engage this dipstick, or inane because they attempt to insult this dipstick who obviously doesn't get it) posts that follow. I'd say that this is an inordinate amount of wasted thought, time, and space by otherwise interesting posters. I would also say that my precious time here is squandered by trying to sift through the muck that trails behind Dogz arse end. I can say quite honestly and without reservation that he is one of the main reasons that over the past year or so, I have found TW much less enjoyable.

Some posters inspire greatness in others. Dogz inspires the inverse of that.

He is the BLACK HOLE of TW.



un sac a main, un sac a dos

JAMIESIM
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/20/05 08:17 PM
Re: Northern Solidarity new [re: RabbitFighter]  

It’s a bit like the night of the long knifes round this place, you and Monkeyboy trying desperately to eliminate your archrival Dogz and co, so you can have this place to yourselves. Not that I’m comparing you to the Nazis in 1933.
I personally don’t like getting involved in the internal politics of anything that’s why I was not head boy when I was at school nor am I member of a football team or a social club. So I do feel a bit uncountable posting on this part of the site. I don’t think I’ve done anything to irritate anyone at least I haven’t had the intent to satisfy that end result. So I do apologise if my cookie nature has pissed people of or my bad grammar, you see I spend quite a lot of time round msn and messenger and the status-Quo around there is to be as informal as possible in communicating I will try to improve the situation with my grammar and my spelling . After this post.
However what I can say about myself is that I’m true to myself, the way I act around TW is relatively the same as I do in the real world .I bet that the aggressive nature you and Monkeyboy try to project around TW is completely different to your nature in the real world.




RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
07/20/05 08:35 PM
Re: Northern Solidarity new [re: JAMIESIM]  

What mister Moqito is doing about Dogz isn't my busines and I think I already stated that I do not harbour murderous feelings towards the man anymore (now some dipshit can convince their own deluded minds that I used the word murderous in utter seriosness) since I've learned to tolerate him and only engage in verbal abuse when I think it's necessary.

In reply to:

So I do apologise


Let's not pretend we're martyrs here. It's a fucking message board and you don't owe any apologies for sounding a drooling retard thanks to atrocious use of grammar but mending your ways on the other hand might change the air around here. Despite what certain members might say, personal attacks in TW are rarely unfounded. Well, mine are occasionally but in those rare cases they serve a higher cause by being entertaining.

In reply to:

I bet that the aggressive nature you and Monkeyboy try to project around TW is completely different to your nature in the real world


Feel free to pm our Finnish moderator. He'll tell you just how charming I am face to face...

Let me get my hands
On your mammary glands


GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/20/05 11:59 PM
Already Not Well-Liked new [re: RabbitFighter]  

I know I'm not very well-liked here already, but i'll go over the edge and say that i adore ddz's posts. I only know of all of you from recent, and i realize that ddz is a little dim at times - but i also think he's got good intentions for the board. plus, he takes all your collective shit (whether he means to, or not) and keeps posting. i can't believe that you piss all over him, when there's Beltene who just posts random shit most of the time. he seems like a better target. let me be clear that i enjoy Beltene's posts; however, I'm trying to take your POV of "serving the board."

i don't think you're all assholes for talking about banning ddz, either. i hope it was just a joke that got out of control. in a forum that's struggling to gain members, you want to ban one that is one of the lives of the party? monkeyboy, you're almost worthless without ddz to bully; ddz would be annoying without those witty comebacks of yours.

ok, i'm done committing suicide.

john, i'm only dancing

blacktropic84
(cracked actor)
07/21/05 00:20 AM
Re: Already Not Well-Liked new [re: GreatApe]  

In reply to:

ok, i'm done committing suicide.



Not quite, and I think I speak for everyone here when I say "finish the job".

--------------
Tickle My Bunny, Please

GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/21/05 00:53 AM
Re: Already Not Well-Liked new [re: blacktropic84]  

but i have a new avatar.

john, i'm only dancing

blacktropic84
(cracked actor)
07/21/05 01:47 AM
Re: Already Not Well-Liked new [re: GreatApe]  

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . so?

--------------
Tickle My Bunny, Please

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/21/05 07:21 AM
Re: Already Not Well-Liked new [re: GreatApe]  



"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/21/05 07:22 AM
Re: Already Not Well-Liked new [re: GreatApe]  

In reply to:

monkeyboy, you're almost worthless without ddz to bully


I'm willing to risk it.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/21/05 08:08 AM
Re: Already Not Well-Liked new [re: Monkeyboy]  

excellent. gold star'd. haha

john, i'm only dancing

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/21/05 08:32 AM
Re: Already Not Well-Liked new [re: GreatApe]  

Well worth the time it took to type and read.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

guiltpuppy
(crash course raver)
07/21/05 06:04 PM
Re: Already Not Well-Liked new [re: GreatApe]  

In reply to:

I know I'm not very well-liked here already, but i'll go over the edge and say that i adore ddz's posts.



I liked you a lot with the old avatar. Now you grate on and disgust me. Post more mindless, trivial crap, please.

But anyway, I must agree with you on the adoring dizzo thing. I mean, he still annoys/angers me often enough, but I've learned to enjoy that to the point that I actually like the guy... I mean, he is just plain likeable on a certain level (the cutesy niceness and unflappability is itself endearing, aside from being annoying, which I also find endearing), and on another, he's likeable in the John Waters sense... It's a certain sort of hedonism, I guess, indulging in the awfulness of his posts. I'm actually quite surprised Monkeyboy doesn't feel the same way, considering that seems to fit quite well within his sensibility -- I mean, dozzie's posts can be seen as the literary equivalent of Mo's avatars, in a way.

And Effie is beyond compare. I really, really love that dog.

TW is about tearing down, not building up, whether it be the boundaries of good taste or the confidence of a defenseless teenager. - Marquis

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
12/31/05 07:27 PM
A very special New Year's present new [re: pablopicasso]  

Discuss!

“Keats and Yeats may be on your side, but I’m on Morrissey’s. Therefore, you fucking lose.”
~ Oscar Wilde on Morrissey

b_mardle
(electric tomato)
01/08/06 05:28 AM
Re: A very special New Year's present new [re: RabbitFighter]  

You really like to drag old thread's up, don't you?

I've been too honest with myself
I should have lied like everybody else


Monkeyboy
(band intro)
01/08/06 03:30 PM
Re: A very special New Year's present new [re: b_mardle]  

And it was only dragged up about 8 days ago. Nice retarded reflexes.

"I was borned in england." - b_mardle


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