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Starlite
(stardust savant)
11/04/05 04:46 PM
So where do you stand on this? new [re: Strawman]  

In reply to:

For somebody who seldom uses the place


Eh? I mean, I come and go, and to be sure, I've been gone a little lately, but I never leave. Even when I don't post, I read the boards. And check out my recent post history: I've made 18 posts over the last 2 days. Plus I've been posting pretty regularly all October.

In reply to:

sporadic & negative contribution is highly irresponsible



I'm sorry, that's just silly. While you may be right in saying that a poster who's not on much shouldn't tell others how to run the boards, the idea that I have any responsibility to post is just ridiculous. I'm on here for my entertainment--I have no obligation to hang around when I don't feel like it. It'd be pretty scary if signing up to a messageboard obliged you to some kind of mininum amount of posts. Unlike moderatorship, this isn't a job.


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
11/04/05 04:49 PM
Does this make me the PC Prince? new [re: Strawman]  

Strawman, I don't see any hypocrisy in someone saying that a person in power should be held to a higher standard, while not rising to that higher standard themselves - provided that said person making said statement and not rising to said standard isn't a person in power. By saying that there is a different standard and then acting as if it were true, I don't know...I just don't see a contradiction in that.

Or maybe I'm missing something.

We deserve better.

Starlite
(stardust savant)
11/04/05 04:52 PM
This is all so cuddly new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Oh, and yeah, what he said.



Strawman
(acolyte)
11/04/05 04:53 PM
Re: Does this make me the PC Prince? new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Or maybe I'm missing something.


No, you're not missing anything, I just wanted to get involved with the thread in some small way.




minge

EJSundayModerator
(heroic dolphin)
11/04/05 05:29 PM
Re: Does this make me the PC Prince? new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

I don't see any hypocrisy in someone saying that a person in power should be held to a higher standard


I still think this is the core point and the one where we differ essentially: I do not think that a mod has any power unless he excercises the few functions that he has (banning, deleting) in order to get things his way. Then I'd instantly agree. And if you want to criticise the few delitions I have made and the one ban I supported - let's do that.

Again: I find this obsession with moderators being superior quite strange.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
11/04/05 05:36 PM
Re: Does this make me the PC Prince? new [re: EJSunday]  

So if I have a gun and choose not to use it does that mean that my gun is not a lethal weapon?

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EJSundayModerator
(heroic dolphin)
11/04/05 05:55 PM
Re: Does this make me the PC Prince? new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

So if I have a gun and choose not to use it does that mean that my gun is not a lethal weapon?


If there is a sensible reason that the gun exists and if you also keep it well away from everybody else I wouldn't care if it is potentially lethal. And I certainly wouldn't call you a killer.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
11/04/05 06:22 PM
Re: Does this make me the PC Prince? new [re: EJSunday]  

In reply to:

I wouldn't care if it is potentially lethal


But you clearly agree that it is potentially lethal.

Continuing the analogy, how different would my interaction be with people if I were to a) keep it unloaded securely in my closet or b) walk around with it in my hand, casually using it to accentuate my conversation, and letting it be known that it is fully loaded. After all, I know that I'd never use it unless I had to.

I don't want to throw too many analogies out there but if you prefer this one use it: it's like when someone has a dog that's growling and barking at you and they are prickish enough to say "it's okay, they wouldn't bite anyone." Whether that's true or not really doesn't matter much in your handling of the situation, does it?

We deserve better.

EJSundayModerator
(heroic dolphin)
11/04/05 06:52 PM
Re: Does this make me the PC Prince? new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

b) walk around with it in my hand, casually using it to accentuate my conversation, and letting it be known that it is fully loaded.


Show me where I have done that.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
11/04/05 07:14 PM
Re: Does this make me the PC Prince? new [re: EJSunday]  

In reply to:

Show me where I have done that.


There's quite a bit of reading to do, but here.

It's your refusal to acknowledge the gun in your hand and have respect for the fact that it makes people uneasy that I have a problem with. Does this mean that I think you abuse it? Not really, and I think that's where you are tripping in - thankfully - trying to understand where I'm coming from. But I do think that the mods should understand that whether they like it or not, there is inherent power in the title of moderator and that it will always have a bearing on what they say or do here.

I deal with a similar double-edged sword. Look back at what I said about "I'm the guy who posts tubgirl, yata, tata..." I undertand that I put myself in a no-win situation by being both the clown prince of TW and the champion of blind idealism in the Site Feedbag. I simply can't have it both ways, one role will always win out over another one - if only in perception. The big difference here is that while I can treat people like shit and joke about doing unpleasant things to them, I have no power to actually do it. I think poopicraft said that I shouldn't be a moderator because it would be wall to wall tubgirl. While this isn't the case, I do understand that it would be something on the back of everyone's minds. I think I would make a great moderator though, don't you?

Seriously, EJ, what kind of moderator do you think I would make?

We deserve better.


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