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Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
10/27/05 02:23 PM
Re: Anarchy in the TW new [re: EJSunday]  

In reply to:

So if you are not Prism why are you suffering from the same inferiority complex then?


Fuck you, EJ. Seriously, this is making me very quickly re-think my previously positive opinion about you.

But, yeah, it's all because I am inferior in the face of our ubermunchy dictator.

"Iím more real than you will ever be." - JamieSim on his...real...ness?

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
10/27/05 02:24 PM
Re: . new [re: ohramona]  

You just killed Santa.

"Iím more real than you will ever be." - JamieSim on his...real...ness?

Strawman
(acolyte)
10/27/05 02:51 PM
Re: Anarchy in the TW new [re: Shelle]  

In reply to:

Yah! Get rid of all these tired old has beens. They're no fun any more, and they're no good any more. New TW order!


Okay, I'll concede that I'm one of those boring old has beens & will gladly be shot of -- But please may I have your permission to solely read the message board to observe the New TW Orders progress?

Because I've never seen my monitor flatline.



minge

Shelle
(electric tomato)
10/27/05 03:39 PM
Re: Anarchy in the TW new [re: Strawman]  

In reply to:

I'm one of those boring old has beens



No, you're not. You're so not.

I like dogs. You always know what a dog is thinking. It has four moods. Happy, sad, cross and concentrating. Also, dogs are faithful and they do not tell lies because they cannot talk.


Marquis
(acolyte)
10/27/05 06:43 PM
Nazi Sympathizers new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

But for a mod to behave like this is really, really bad.


Alright, off the bat, I've got to give y'all some caveats: First, that I'm only involving myself in this fracas at the personal behest of one of TW's Finest, who it seems is eager to fathom just what it is yours truly thinks about this recurring Mod Stink.

Second, that I'm replying to you, Monkeyboy, because I appreciate the level of seriousness you bring to the discussion of ultimately trivial matters like the TW moderator debate. I know that sounds facetious, but I'm being genuine, and you're probably the only other poster involved who I can be sure isn't just "taking the piss."

So, my question is, what is it EJ's done that's "really, really bad?"

A few months back - and I'll wager several times before and since - you (Monkeyboy) lodged a valid complaint that without knowing the exact strictures of propriety around here, you shouldn't be blamed for posting pictures of dildos etc., as it was never explicitly stated that pictures of dildos etc. were contraband.

Doesn't the knife cut both ways, though? Assumedly, since none of us possess an outline of what's proper and improper, neither do EJ/Ohro/etc. So just as when you use your judgement when debating whether to post those pictures of preschool gang rapes, so, too, must EJ and the Gang use their personal judgement when deciding what to delete.

The sad fact is that when anything remotely controversial gets posted, half of TW will be clamoring for it to be taken down before their co-workers see it, the other half will be clamoring for it to be left up so their right to free posting isn't violated. The way I see it, if I were EJ, my only concern would be figuring out which way would get the least amount of shit thrown at me.

Now as is typical with me, I reserve the right to change my mind at the drop of a hat, but at the time being, I can't think of anything around TW which our Mods are failing to do which would make TW a better place if they did it. If EJ feels the need to snip a dildo here and there to stem the tide of prudish PMs in his inbox, I can't blame him.

As to whether new mods need to be elected/appointed/grown in vats, well, again, I'm not seeing this mounting tide of crap which a new group of mods will counteract; until such time, I feel that this election talk is exactly the sort of vanity contest we don't need.

On the other hand, I make such a convincing argument....

Hop fences, jump over benches
When you see me coming get the fuck out the entrance


NoMoreNoLess
(wild eyed peoploid)
10/27/05 06:46 PM
Re: Tip for registering at TW new [re: Adam]  

Can anyone give me the tip to skip registretion of this forum?



Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
10/27/05 06:56 PM
That's me! [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

because I appreciate the level of seriousness you bring to the discussion of ultimately trivial matters like the TW moderator debate.


Thank you.

Maybe I didn't make myself terribly clear. The offending behavior that I was alluding to was EJ's dismissal of any poster out of pure assumption that said poster is "just an alter." Especially since Shelle has faced doubt about whether she is an alter or not. I can see an equally strong argument for either scenario so I can't really fault anyone for taking either position, but in the end I just don't care either way.

But the point that I'm again failing to make is that it is poor argumentation skills to dismiss someone's very valid points because they are "just" anything. Add to that the profound inapropriateness of someone who is supposed to be a representative of this site behaving in such a way.

Sorry, I'm a bit out of it and fear I might be coming off as eloquently as JamieSim or some other house plant.

"Iím more real than you will ever be." - JamieSim on his...real...ness?

Marquis
(acolyte)
10/27/05 07:50 PM
I make no sense [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

The offending behavior that I was alluding to was EJ's dismissal of any poster out of pure assumption that said poster is "just an alter." Especially since Shelle has faced doubt about whether she is an alter or not. I can see an equally strong argument for either scenario so I can't really fault anyone for taking either position, but in the end I just don't care either way.


Alright, I see what your issue is now, but I'm not sure what can be done about it. Without getting too heavily into who's real and who's not, I don't think I'm wrong in saying that within the last year or so, there has been a prevailing trend towards posters of debatable authenticity who specialize in baiting the regulars with varying degrees of success. "Varying" meaning that I get fooled into trying to have arguments with them all the time.

In reply to:

But the point that I'm again failing to make is that it is poor argumentation skills to dismiss someone's very valid points because they are "just" anything. Add to that the profound inapropriateness of someone who is supposed to be a representative of this site behaving in such a way.


From a purely subjective standpoint, I would have a much greater problem if EJ were to treat Robo and Dogz like you (and I) do, disregarding their attempts at complaining because they are "just idiots."

I don't know; I understand your point about accountability and about respecting people enough to answer their complaints, but I guess I'm equally sympathetic to EJ for not wanting to get mired down in an argument he's had several times before. Actually, that's my definition of good TW fun, so maybe I'm not so sympathetic.

Yeah, you know what? Fuck you, EJ.

Hop fences, jump over benches
When you see me coming get the fuck out the entrance


Arlequino
(cracked actor)
10/27/05 08:15 PM
Wine'll do this to ya [re: Marquis]  

Sorry kids...I feel seriously uncool, now.

The fact is, I still think EJ's by far the best guy to moderate this forum. Out of anybody on here. Shit, he's being pretty much flying solo in that respect for a while now.

From a personal point of view, I don't really want to be in the computer lab when a picture of tubgirl pops up. Or one of a double-ended dildo. Or even one of JamieSim's posts. It seems prudish, it seems boring, it seems arbitary - facist is a bollocks word for it, Shelle, by the way - but it seems pretty necessary to me.

If I were the mod, what would I do? Delete them as soon as I saw them, probably PM whoever posted them and tell them to quit it, and then proceed to tell all and sundry what a pain in the arse the original poster was. That's why I'd be a shit mod. EJ, on the other hand, has argued the point in the forums a lot of times before and has done so without resorting to personal insults and other such simple tactics. That's what makes him a good mod.

Moreoever, he's an active contributor to the board and an intelligent guy. He certainly displays more of a rational logic than a number of the established posters who seem to offer very little other than mod-baiting. He's not alone in this - ohramona's an even-handed mod, and even Syisyo's been known to show reason - but he's the only mod who hasn't deserted the boards for a period.

I can see the argument for some new mods, but I can't see anybody who really fits the bill.

Shit, though...if the current mods really are as bad as we're told, why not just send the board to the dogs and appoint ddz and Jamie as the sole moderators. It might even be fun for a while.

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay



poopicraft
(wide eyed peeploid)
10/27/05 10:29 PM
Re: Who nose? [re: twister]  

In reply to:

Who's nose is this?


That's "Whose nose is this?", Jamie.




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