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Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/20/05 06:41 PM
Banning Ddgz again  

There is an ongoing discussion about this in another thread. I think a vote, while it might not actually lead to banning, could be interesting.


Should Diamonddogz74 be banned again?
Yes, permanently.
Yes, temporarily.
He should be put on probation.
Eh, whatever.
No, but only on principle.
No.

View the results for this poll


"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

blacktropic84
(cracked actor)
07/20/05 10:38 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

No.

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Tickle My Bunny, Please

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/21/05 06:56 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Diamonddogz74


You could have at least spelt my name correctly

Thank you Tom.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/21/05 07:16 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

You could have at least spelt my name correctly


You know, you're right. You would think that I would get the spelling right after seeing it about 37 times per thread. I do apologize to everyone but ddgz for spelling his name wrong.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/21/05 08:12 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

nope, that's going too far

john, i'm only dancing

GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/21/05 08:19 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Did you ever think you take this message board too seriously, monkeyboy?

if ddz really pisses you off so much, just bozo him. everyone else that is bothered by him can bozo him too.

sorry, this just rubs me the wrong way...

and thank you for the gold star

john, i'm only dancing

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
07/21/05 08:27 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

Has anyone told you your new avatar looks even worse than the old one?

Well, it does.

Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/21/05 09:40 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Sysiyo]  

well... i never claimed to be good @ photoshop

darn it, i try tho

john, i'm only dancing

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/21/05 10:00 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

At least it ain't a bloddy ship

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/21/05 12:05 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

At least it ain't a bloddy ship


Ouch.

"rob corddry is a poor man's that other guy" - dice

Humbert
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/21/05 05:40 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

You shoulda read the rest of the other thread.

Doing nose candy off the Bowie coke mirror

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/21/05 05:42 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: schizophrenic]  

Oooh a missing post, did Humby say anything interesting?

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


guiltpuppy
(crash course raver)
07/21/05 05:47 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

In reply to:

Did you ever think you take this message board too seriously, monkeyboy?



Did you ever think you take Monkeyboy's posts too seriously, greatape?

TW is about tearing down, not building up, whether it be the boundaries of good taste or the confidence of a defenseless teenager. - Marquis

Persilot
(stardust savant)
07/21/05 07:06 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

See you are talking about banning DD74, which is all very well. The problem is I don't even find him the most annoying person here. That honour I leave to To_Dizzy whose posts leave me in an often incoherent rage as I froth and rave at the mouth and thrash about on the floor.

"Lovejoy fathered my child."

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/21/05 09:51 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Persilot]  

Seconded. Let's ban him instead.

"rob corddry is a poor man's that other guy" - dice

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/21/05 10:33 PM
Dizzy Dames new [re: Persilot]  

Bear in mind, though, that to_dizzy posts about 1/10 as often as Dogz. If you really find him that obnoxious, bozoing him should be much more effective than bozoing the Great Dolt, as it won't affect every single thread you read.

Again, though, remember these simple formulas:

Many Posts + Minimal Annoyance = Not Banned
Few Posts + Great Annoyance = Not Banned
Many Posts + Great Annoyance = Diamondogz74 = Ban him please.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

CloverThePoet
(electric tomato)
07/21/05 11:32 PM
Re: Dizzy Dames new [re: Marquis]  

I just don't get it. DDZ is not annoying in the least. A lot of you are very pompus and in need of a pumpkin-head(head split to the white meat). With your arrogance and holier than thou attitude and has the nerve to post at a Biowie fan clud message board when you should be out achieving world peace with your great asses. Kiss my ass and ddz ass too.
You shoud be bannin that asshole Monkeyshit.

Now the savage days are here

CloverThePoet
(electric tomato)
07/21/05 11:36 PM
Re: Dizzy Dames new [re: CloverThePoet]  

Then you have the nerve to wonder why others want to destroy ya asses. They think you're so foul that they will kill their own self and fly planes in to buildings to kill yall. Now that's annoying

Now the savage days are here

GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/22/05 00:21 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: guiltpuppy]  

In reply to:

Did you ever think you take Monkeyboy's posts too seriously, greatape?



i try not to, i enjoy his humor for the most part. the problem is that the joke he is encouraging is being taken seriously by others. I know he's thoroughly enjoying it, and this even. i'm playing into it quite well. but the point is, not everyone is bright enough to see that this is just to liven up the boards.

john, i'm only dancing

GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/22/05 00:21 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

no, he didn't pablo

john, i'm only dancing

Humbert
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/22/05 00:27 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

People have already played into the arguments, hence the other thread. If you had read the other thread, which I suggested you did, you'd see that the 'bozo' thing had repeatedly been refuted. Actually, it had been refuted on multiple threads.

Doing nose candy off the Bowie coke mirror

carsten
(kook)
07/22/05 05:13 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

If Ddgz annoys you, then why don't you show you're in control by keeping cool? This thread just makes you look silly.

If you think Ddgz is a troll, then please ignore him.
But don't troll yourself, this will bring the whole board down.

Nobody is so stupid that you couldn't learn something from them.

/Carsten




carsten
(kook)
07/22/05 05:21 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Humbert]  

If you had read the other thread, which I suggested you did

Pls be more specific what you mean with "the other thread". There are more than two threads here at TW, even more than than two on banning, bashing blah blah blah.

All threads I have seen here on banning so far do not carry a lot of information, but instead give you some insight into social competence of some of us.

/Carsten




guiltpuppy
(crash course raver)
07/22/05 06:12 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

In reply to:

the problem is that the joke he is encouraging is being taken seriously by others...not everyone is bright enough to see that this is just to liven up the boards.



Oh, but that's not a problem! If people didn't take it seriously, it would hardly liven up the boards now, would it?

Of course, that's not to say that I think Money's being wholly unserious, either (ie, outright trolling -- not that there would be anything wrong with that)... But all the same, I'd hope that within a month of posting at TW you'd learn to take everything Mo posts (and everything to_dizzy posts, and everything anyone else posts) with a big fat grain of salt. (And thank you for making it clear that you do know to do this -- too many apparently don't. It does wonders for your approval rating, which has suffered an agonizing drop since the avatar change.)

TW is about tearing down, not building up, whether it be the boundaries of good taste or the confidence of a defenseless teenager. - Marquis

Humbert
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/22/05 06:51 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: carsten]  

Here. Just thought it was fairly apparent.

Doing nose candy off the Bowie coke mirror

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/22/05 07:41 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: carsten]  

In reply to:

Nobody is so stupid that you couldn't learn something from them.


Yes. And there are no stupid questions and everyone loves you just as you are.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/22/05 07:45 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

Actually, I'm not joking this time. I really do want him to go away forever.



"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/22/05 07:47 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: carsten]  

carsten, you certainly are an annoying sack of crap.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/22/05 07:47 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Humbert]  

It was. Is.

Whatever.


"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/22/05 08:21 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Wasn't multiple replies like the above one of the main Reason Anthony was banned?

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/22/05 10:12 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: guiltpuppy]  

damn. i knew switching that avatar was a bad idea. stupid stupid stupid.

john, i'm only dancing

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/22/05 12:08 PM
Re: Dizzy Dames new [re: CloverThePoet]  

In reply to:

Then you have the nerve to wonder why others want to destroy ya asses. They think you're so foul that they will kill their own self and fly planes in to buildings to kill yall. Now that's annoying


Changed my mind. Let's ban this guy.

"rob corddry is a poor man's that other guy" - dice

blacktropic84
(cracked actor)
07/22/05 03:16 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

The thing is, a poll like this shouldn't account for anything. I'm sure that if we were to make the same poll, but about Monkeyboy, just as many people would want him gone as those who want him to stay. Same with a poll about Pablo, Strawman, to_dizzy, me, GreatApe or Sysiyo.

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Tickle My Bunny, Please

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/22/05 03:20 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: blacktropic84]  

Yes, permanently. 18
Yes, temporarily. 1
He should be put on probation. 1
Eh, whatever. 5
No, but only on principle. 6
No. 17


I really don't like witch hunts like this, however light hearted or heavy handed they are. The result, so far, was not suprising, and I think,as BT84 says accounts for nothing.

If enthusiasm is a crime then Ant is guilty, but it isn't.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/22/05 03:28 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

If dogz gets banned again, I'll flood this message board with pictures of my unshaven cunt. I don't give a fuck, I'm a Canadian citizen.

I'm dead serious, I will.

Share Zi Love

blacktropic84
(cracked actor)
07/22/05 03:36 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Beltene]  

So do you want him gone or not?

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Tickle My Bunny, Please

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/22/05 03:37 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Beltene]  

You are trying to make people vote yes, aren't you?

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/22/05 03:42 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

I forgot to mention that I have genital herpes.

Share Zi Love

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
07/22/05 03:48 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Beltene]  

Somehow, I'm not surprised.

Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Strawman
(acolyte)
07/22/05 03:58 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

You are trying to make people vote yes, aren't you?


Shit! I've voted no already -- I've got liver & plain yoghurt in the fridge if I wanna see something akin to Beltenes minge.



fatwhiteduke
(grinning soul)
07/22/05 05:13 PM
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Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Beltene]  

pictures of unshaven cunts

you mean as opposed to these two?



Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/22/05 05:33 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: fatwhiteduke]  

I'm talking severe forms of genital herpes on some of the world's furriest pussies. But I'm saving the juicy piccies for later.

Share Zi Love

fatwhiteduke
(grinning soul)
07/22/05 05:37 PM
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Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Beltene]  

some of the world's furriest pussies?

you mean like these?



sTeVieC15
(grinning soul)
07/22/05 05:49 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

get off him already - post what you want to post, ignore those who annoy you and just get on with your, apparently, miserable life.

my 2 Francs worth



fatwhiteduke
(grinning soul)
07/22/05 08:19 PM
Attachment
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: sTeVieC15]  

and here's my 2 Franks

OK - i'll stop it now



Persilot
(stardust savant)
07/22/05 08:22 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: fatwhiteduke]  

In reply to:

and here's my 2 Franks


Just imagine a Sinatra and Zappa collaboration... what a thing of beauty that would be.

"I swear I saw your face change, it didn't seem quite right."

fatwhiteduke
(grinning soul)
07/23/05 05:34 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Persilot]  

Perhaps in heaven they are.



Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/23/05 07:13 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

I hope people understand that while I would love to see him gone forever, I know that this poll has no bearing on what will or will not happen. I was just curious.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/23/05 07:20 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

I was just curious.


And we all know what curiosity did




London Bye Ta-Ta...

fatwhiteduke
(grinning soul)
07/23/05 09:51 AM
Attachment
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: diamondogz74]  

Misfit

Name and Number

Create a living for an annoying, arm-waving Semi-Frog



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/23/05 10:08 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: fatwhiteduke]  

In reply to:

Misfit

Name and Number


Wonderful band and really good songs, I wonder what happened to them?


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/23/05 01:49 PM
Today's Modest Proposal new [re: diamondogz74]  

Well it doesn't seem like we're getting anywhere - the hoard of valuable posters who've been driven from the boards due to Antoinette's "passion" aren't around to force the issue, leaving a new crop of posters who either haven't been around long enough to feel the full brunt of Dogz' boardkilling style, or are themselves drooling babblers who see nothing wrong with incessant chatter.

There is no longer a unified groundswell of support for a banning, despite the fact that not only has Dogz completely reverted to the shit posting that got people pissed with him initially, but now he no longer even puts up a pretense about attempting to become more tolerable. As expected, within weeks of his slap-on-the-wrist ban being lifted, he's completely forgotten his pledge to clean up his act, and worst of all, now feels justified (and proud) in continuing to breach board etiquette twenty times a day. His continued abuse of the goodwill of our fair moderizzles is an insult, and he's a trollish, stubborn asshole, unapologetic, completely without contrition, and without hope for improvement (because he staunchly refuses to try).

What's to be done? I'm sure our faithful mods must be feeling the heat from both sides, itching to do something to stop the hemmhorage of quality posters but fearful of the reprisal of the doltish masses should their St. Tony be properly crucified.

In the spirit of compromise, and to put this contention behind us, I propose the following:

1. Permanently change (freecloud) to (blathering idiot) or (complete moron) or (worthless simpleton) or (please ignore everything I post).

2. Permanently ban that wretched little dog, replacing it with an avatar featuring Antoinette in a dunce cap

If those two things are passed into law, I will never say anything about banning him ever again.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/23/05 02:14 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Marquis]  

I honestly don't think that the death knell of the board can be attributed to one individual, however ubiquitous. There has been a dearth of Bowie news for the last year, with no sign of anything that exciting coming up in the near future. The front page of Teenage wildlife shows this....

In reply to:

Initial North American tour dates announced
And yes, the tour is on...
Alive and well, and living in Reality
CDNow switches to Amazon.com
New York City Marathon Tour
Live By Request and Conan O'Brien TV appearances
The setlist straight from Roseland


Hardly the greatest advert for a board, if I was to visit this site for the first time, I would see that and probably not bother going any further. Ok that wouldn't put off the people who already were members, but maybe they got tired of the 'games' that go on here. The anons successfully ruined the coffee shop when they were allowed to post, and let's be honest, most of them anons were quite likely registered users, who hid in the halflight of anonymity. Then there are the intermidable Claude and Beltene Coffee shop posts.
I enjoy some of monkeyboys threads, but only because I 'know' him, to an outsider they must be aghast at them. He is an intelligent person, I think, such a pity he had to pick an easy target, with this thread.

Anthony, sometimes you do need to filter your posts, about 25% of my posts never make it to the board and that is probably too few. When I write a post, before I press send, I look at it and decide whether or not it is going to move the conversation along. I sometimes get it wrong, but without that filter, I would probably have a custom title by now.

At least Anthony tries to be positive, and as I think I wrote above, his worst 'fault' can be his over-enthusiasm, coupled with a tendency to reply to everyone who mentions him. Sometimes no reply is neccessary, it is not rude not to reply. Sometimes a pm would be more suitable, other times a reply via the board is valid.

It seems there are occasions when there is nothing to say, that an attack on DD74 is an acceptable way of getting things moving again.

One further point for anyone who doesn't like Anthony, if you are annoyed with him, ignore him, if you attack him, he is going to respond, if you ignore him, he has nothing to respond to. Sounds like common sense to me.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Marquis
(acolyte)
07/23/05 02:47 PM
Here There Everywhere new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

I honestly don't think that the death knell of the board can be attributed to one individual, however ubiquitous


Perhaps not, but I'm not exactly pronouncing TW dead just yet. I was referring to posters like the recently-returned anisette, who has explicitly stated that Dogz' ubiquity played a large role in her disinterest in the boards. I'd be surprised if she were the only one.

In reply to:

The anons successfully ruined the coffee shop when they were allowed to post, and let's be honest, most of them anons were quite likely registered users, who hid in the halflight of anonymity.


Possibly, but I sort of doubt that the most offensive anons were regular posters. Not really any way to tell. Regardless, the ruination-through-saturation effect is the same in both cases; why support a ban on anonymous drivel and not support one on drivel attributed to a single person?

In reply to:

Anthony, sometimes you do need to filter your posts, about 25% of my posts never make it to the board and that is probably too few. When I write a post, before I press send, I look at it and decide whether or not it is going to move the conversation along.


Sensible advice, surely. Tragically, some variation of this suggestion has been offered to Dogz about 3 times a week for the last year, and he hasn't so much as made an effort to listen, to the point now where he wears his ubiquity and idiocy as a badge of pride.

In reply to:

One further point for anyone who doesn't like Anthony, if you are annoyed with him, ignore him, if you attack him, he is going to respond, if you ignore him, he has nothing to respond to. Sounds like common sense to me.


Would that it were true, but as you can see from perusing any random thread, he needn't be directly addressed to post anything. Not that one needs permission to enter a conversation, but when your contribution amounts to "I've never heard of that, what is it?" or "I agree" - well, 30 posts a day of that, across every forum, is nearly impossible to ignore.

I don't really like the idea of banning anyone, and I almost forget about it right up until I come across yet another pointless post. All I'm saying is that we (TW) have been cutting him too much slack for much too long, and for him to continue to throw the moderators' charity back in their faces is an insult.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/23/05 03:01 PM
Re: Here There Everywhere new [re: Marquis]  

Fair points one and all, and I can even see why people could say that he has been given enough warnings.

In reply to:

Possibly, but I sort of doubt that the most offensive anons were regular posters. Not really any way to tell. Regardless, the ruination-through-saturation effect is the same in both cases; why support a ban on anonymous drivel and not support one on drivel attributed to a single person?


The difference being is that one was done just to irritate and breed negativity, the other was due to over (possibly misplaced) enthusiasm.

We are all different, some get annoyed over DD74, some over monkeyboy, personally I find in the coffee shop Claude and Beltene to be the ones who are killing the place.
One man's meat is another man's poison, of course. Hell, some even thought the anon flooder was funny.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/23/05 03:19 PM
Re: Here There Everywhere new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

unapologetic


That is not true Matthew and you know it! I am always polite, unlike some I could mention.

In reply to:

and not support one on drivel attributed to a single person?


Just what makes you think you're so high and mighty? we are all individuals on here and therefore all very different, god help us the day we all post like sycophantic Bowienet members

In reply to:

but when your contribution amounts to "I've never heard of that, what is it?" or "I agree" - well, 30 posts a day of that, across every forum, is nearly impossible to ignore.


That is not true, you are making points that are out of date, I do ask members questions, what is wrong with that? and If it's something I've never heard or seen I like to know ( maybe some of the times these should be done via PMs I agree with you on that point ) but if this board is just to be filled with people making points and issues with NO comeback? what is the point.

The odd thing is Matthew that I do genuinely like you, your posts are intelligent and sometimes witty, but you won't have me asking you to stop being so bloody pious.

The common ground I hope we share is the love of Bowie and his music/art, as for all the other matters discussed on here of course there's going to be differences, I post because I like to know things and also pass on news I might know, I do not post to impress my sycophantic following as you may?

For goodness sakes let's keep this board civil and not petty, you can insult me all you wish if it pleases you to do so?

I on the other hand do not treat this forum as a slagging ground or witch hunt nor ever will.





London Bye Ta-Ta...

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/23/05 03:33 PM
Everywhere a Dogz Dogz new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

I am always polite, unlike some I could mention.


I didn't say you weren't polie (you aren't), I said that you gleefully ignore rules and suggestions.

In reply to:

Just what makes you think you're so high and mighty? we are all individuals on here and therefore all very different


Ah, "What makes you so damn special?" - the last refuge of the damned. I've never said my posts are great (though they are), but I've also never been asked repeatedly by moderators and TW at large to change my style in any way. You have. That's the difference.

In reply to:

That is not true, you are making points that are out of date, I do ask members questions, what is wrong with that? and If it's something I've never heard or seen I like to know ( maybe some of the times these should be done via PMs I agree with you on that point ) but if this board is just to be filled with people making points and issues with NO comeback? what is the point.


What's wrong with it is that it does nothing to further discussion, only to serve your own selfish, shortsighted needs. You treat TW like your own personal playground, unable to realize - despite the mounds of evidence laid before you - that your enjoyment is a detriment to the enjoyment of just about everyone else. Why, Dogz? Why can't you use a modicum of restraint?

In reply to:

The common ground I hope we share is the love of Bowie and his music/art, as for all the other matters discussed on here of course there's going to be differences, I post because I like to know things and also pass on news I might know, I do not post to impress my sycophantic following as you may?


Sycophantic following? Where? I'd love to meet them. Now, which one of us had his name crop up in the signatures of prize twats like Hangontoyourself? Shit, at least my sycophantic following isn't full of morons!

I'd also like to say here that your implication that I'm berating you to win some sort of popularity contest is insulting, and completely off-base. I wager that all but the most callous of TWers (i.e. Prism) probably now thinks I'm a raving asshole, picking on poor defenseless Tony.

In reply to:

For goodness sakes let's keep this board civil and not petty, you can insult me all you wish if it pleases you to do so? I on the other hand do not treat this forum as a slagging ground


No, you treat it like a LiveJournal. Which, I think, would be a great thing for you to look into.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/23/05 03:35 PM
Re: Here There Everywhere new [re: diamondogz74]  

This is (hopefully) my last word on this thread,as I do not want to be the one who keeps pushing this to the top of the forum.

I think it is the nature of the questions rather than the fact that questions itself.

I remember not long after I started posting here I asked who Rustic overtones were as I had just heard two songs they had done that were collaborations with Bowie. I had only one reply back, and that was from Myriada, who gave me a link to a site about them and said that I could have found the answer by googling.

Basically if the question is of the who is, what is, variety then a person should be able to find out the answer quite easily on their own.

If the question is of the 'I have just heard **** and thought they were interesting, I have since found out they have done A,B and C, what do you think of them?' variety, that is valid, because you are not just after facts, you are after opinions. This then leads to discussion.

It can be almost compared to and interview technique, with the first type of question being a closed question and the second one being an open question.

Perhaps the way to comply would be the following example.

Someone mentions a group that has passed a person by,
That person then looks them up via google and finds out they have made four albums.
That person then comes back to the board and says something along the lines of 'I have never heard of that group, I see they have made the following albums, which one would you advise as a good example of their work?'. That then leads into a new and worthwhile discussion (hopefully).

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Marquis
(acolyte)
07/23/05 03:42 PM
Who's the illiterate now? new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

I think it is the nature of the questions rather than the fact that questions itself.


That's gonna make someone a great signature, Shakespeare.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/23/05 03:46 PM
Re: Who's the illiterate now? new [re: Marquis]  

OK I meant to add the words I missed out, but now you have highlighted it, I suppose I'll have to live with it.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/23/05 04:19 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Marquis]  

I'd be faily pleased with (would be banned by half the board). Since...you know, it's true.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/23/05 04:23 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

He is an intelligent person, I think, such a pity he had to pick an easy target, with this thread.


Why won't anyone get that I'm so not joking about this issue?

In reply to:

At least Anthony tries to be positive


Keep that sentiment up and you can get yerself a jobby job with the Bush '08 re-election campaign. Seriously.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/23/05 04:31 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Dude, it's so obvious to me that dogz paid you to boost his popularity levels again. You whores, it's so pathetic.

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Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/23/05 04:41 PM
The one post in which I treat Ddgz humanely new [re: diamondogz74]  

I'll admit that you do have the rare post that I am genuinely happy to have seen. But I would like to see the following things removed from your posts:

- Questions that could easily be answered through a Google search. Examples of this: What is a (insert product name)? I've never heard of (insert person's name), can you tell me more? This habit could actually be turned around to become something useful because you could take a couple of minutes to find the answer to your question, then post a link for anyone else who might want more information.

- "I agree." Or any variation on that theme. It's just bad conversation to post something so empty on a public forum. If you agrre, that's fine. If you like something, great. But unless you are going to offer somthing more than a simple yes or no (or a "you look nice in that picture"), it is just common courtesy to do so in a PM. I think it's safe to say that nobody here really cares what you or I think of someone elses picture. And I'll admit that there is a fine line with me asking for people's numbers or whatever, but at least that's adding something no matter how small.

- Puntcuation and smileys. Please learn to communicate like an adult. If you want to have a particular style, that's great and I encourage it. But at least have it resemble the English language. I often give you shit about beng in the medical field. This is because I find it hard to believe that someone who is given such a responsibility can't manage to communicate properly and/or vice versa. Read Persilot's comments about JAMIESIM for more about that. I'll even find it for you if you want.

If you can manage to do these things, or even make a clear attempt to, I think my disdain for you would go down considerably.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

carsten
(kook)
07/23/05 04:46 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Humbert]  

Here. Just thought it was fairly apparent.

I was afraid that this would be the answer. The thread you're pointing to is pointless, and gives no good reasoning to why Ddgz should be banned. Neither does this thread. And as Beltene hasn't sent any pics until now, I will just turn to something more interesting.

See you in some constructive discussions later.

/Carsten




Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/23/05 04:47 PM
Let's get one thing straight new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

Hell, some even thought the anon flooder was funny.


And it was.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/23/05 04:50 PM
Re: Let's get one thing straight new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Once it was amusing,
twice it was mildly funny
thousandth time it was a fucking pain in the arse.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Marquis
(acolyte)
07/23/05 05:02 PM
There's what's right, and there's what's right new [re: carsten]  

In reply to:

The thread you're pointing to is pointless, and gives no good reasoning to why Ddgz should be banned. Neither does this thread.


I don't know about pointless. It was, at the time, a place for TW to come together and celebrate our temporary riddance of the well-meaning nuisance. The "good reasons" you refer to are mentioned in passing - notably by Sysyio - and were spelled out in exhaustive detail on several prior threads. If someone wants to link a couple of them, that'd be great.

Note also that with some notable exceptions (pablo, JarethsGirl), Dogz' defenders on that thread are dimbulbs like Hangontoyourself and OleanderWhoosh, while a chorus of cheers was raised by a veritable TW All Star Team.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/23/05 05:03 PM
Re: Let's get one thing straight new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

Once it was amusing,
twice it was mildly funny
thousandth time it was a fucking pain in the arse.


I saw it differently. If you wait repetition out long enough, the cycle usually works to be funny -> mildly amusing -> stupid -> annoying -> fucking annoying -> funny again -> fucking hilarious. It was cut off in the middle of its natural cycle. And that's a shame.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Humbert
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/23/05 07:11 PM
Re: There's what's right, and there's what's right new [re: Marquis]  

I think this one is good; a couple of the board's most well-liked posters stated ddz was the reason for their no longer posting, or no longer posting as often. I also think some of the best reasons for his banning are put down. And, it's hilarious.

Doing nose candy off the Bowie coke mirror

Arlequino
(cracked actor)
07/23/05 07:14 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Monkeyboy]  

I thought I'd keep clear of it all this time. When all this last cropped up - in Syisyo's 'I Am Become Death' thread - I was one of those who called, in no uncertain terms, for the banning of Anthony. I was sceptical that a temporary ban would be effective, and I was pretty disappointed that it wasn't a permanent one at the time.

Once ddz's ban had passed, though, he seemed to genuinely take on board a lot of the constructive criticisms that had been directed at him: the massive, multiple posting disappeared, as did the 'Claude-esque' single-smiley posts and suchlike; even the highly questionable syntax began to improve.

Then, slowly but inarguably, the worse aspects of his posting began to reappear. Suddenly, 'I agree', 'NO! you are wrong' and 'what's that?' became signature posts again, and a level of dogz-based inanity crept back into the major discussion forums. More worryingly, the ubiquity for which he was so roundly criticised - leading to the '7 post probation' period - started to come back, to the extent where it's difficult to find a thread that doesn't have some form of contribution - greater or lesser - from the individual who, were he a cricketer and his daily posts an average run rate, would have Glenn McGrath crapping himself.

Anthony is never going to be a White Prism, a Marquis, a Starlite or, indeed, any of the other myriad 'great' posters capable of spinning out fantastic, interesting, funny and well-written posts on a whim. Nor, for that matter, am I or the majority of other posters here. But everybody is capable of a basic level of literate and coherent discussion. Antz has shown he's capable of this from time-to-time on the board, and more regularly in PMs. Would it be so unreasonable simply to demand the sort of quality-filtering that Pablo-Picasso writes of? And, if no improvement is forthcoming, enforcing another 7-posts per day quotient? At least that way ddz would be forced to take more care over the posts he had, with the offshoot being that if no improvement were registered, there would be a limit on the amount of nonsensical-drivel filling the boards.

I don't think Antz really intends to force his own opinions on every post, and every poster on TW. But sometimes the enthusiasm to reply to everything gets a bit too much to handle. Every poster's capable of self-improvement; perhaps it's time just to really think about making a reply before hitting that 'submit post' button.

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay



Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/23/05 08:48 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Arlequino]  

In reply to:

Once ddz's ban had passed, though, he seemed to genuinely take on board a lot of the constructive criticisms that had been directed at him: the massive, multiple posting disappeared, as did the 'Claude-esque' single-smiley posts and suchlike; even the highly questionable syntax began to improve.


You're a bunch of boring old faggots who have nothing better to do but pick on someone's syntax. I like dogz, he adds a certain flavour to the boards.

In reply to:

I don't think Antz really intends to force his own opinions on every post, and every poster on TW. But sometimes the enthusiasm to reply to everything gets a bit too much to handle.


I like him even more now.


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GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/23/05 10:25 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

I'm just curious, to all of those truly upset with ddz over his posting techniques, as to why this thread exists. it seems to break the rules you set for ddz. couldn't this too be addressed by PM?

i understand that you are upset with ddz over the volume of his posts, but there is still some sharp level of irony in this thread.

also, i would not want any of you to leave this board. pardon my sapiness, but like Beltene inferred, we all add something to the board. ddz is the retarded uncle. Beltene is the creepy guy with a cane that touches little boys. monkeyboy is an angry teenager that shops at HotTopic. see? just like your home town. i'd say it's the love/hate duality that keeps things interesting around here.

but at the same time, if one member drives off several members - that person's roll in the 'community' needs to be examined. as you can see, i've read up on this topic more and i'm starting to understand the entire situation. is there a way to limit the number of posts a certain member makes per day? it could be a reasonable method to encourage quality of posts.

oh, and thanks for the signature Pablo/Marquis.

I think it is the nature of the questions rather than the fact that questions itself. - Pablo (thanks to Marquis for pointing that out)

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/23/05 11:46 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

Beltene's a girl. Just thought you should know.

"rob corddry is a poor man's that other guy" - dice

GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/24/05 03:05 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: schizophrenic]  

Yeah, i know. I think that drives the character home, actually.

I think it is the nature of the questions rather than the fact that questions itself. - Pablo (thanks to Marquis for pointing that out)

Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/24/05 03:06 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: GreatApe]  

In reply to:

it could be a reasonable method to encourage quality of posts.


But why? I'd understand if this was some incredibly popular community with 50 new members registering every day but it ain't. We're a handful of snobs thriving on ancient scripts.

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GreatApe
(wild eyed peoploid)
07/24/05 03:24 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Beltene]  

I think it just could be a nice middle ground for those that find ddz offensive, that's all. Hell if i know if it can even be done.

i looked at Sys's I am Become Death thread to find that it is possible to throttle number of posts. thanks for the link, humbert. i would also like to note a large difference in character from that ddz to this ddz.

I think it is the nature of the questions rather than the fact that questions itself. - Pablo (thanks to Marquis for pointing that out)

Edited by GreatApe on 07/24/05 03:42 AM (server time).



blacktropic84
(cracked actor)
07/24/05 04:35 AM
Awreetus-Awrightus new [re: GreatApe]  

I'll be honest here, I find Ddgz's posts genuinely annoying. The reason I say 'no' to the banning is because he has become an aquaintance of mine. Anthony is a wonderful man and a great friend however off-putting his posting style may be.

I have been banned from a message board once before, and that was for posing as a Nazi, attempting to take over the forum via election, as well as making a few lewd comments about shin-digging with the administrator's mother. Ddgz is harmless and does not deserve to be banned again. If a member is too immature to put up with another human being, then by all means let them leave.

Seig heil, und auf wiedersehen!

--------------
Tickle My Bunny, Please

Tin
(stardust savant)
07/24/05 05:27 AM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Beltene]  

In reply to:

You're a bunch of boring old faggots who have nothing better to do but pick on someone's syntax. I like dogz, he adds a certain flavour to the boards.


Seconded, though I'd add old bitches to the faggots for balance.

This entire discussion looks an awful lot like some bizarre online high school english class a la Rock 'n Roll High School. Monkeyboy is Ms. Togar and Marquis and schizophrenic are those two creeps who were her henchmen. Tony being Riff Randall for his nonconformist ways.

I work as a writer and editor from time to time, so bad grammar and misspellings drives me nuts. However, after years of reading telegraphic emails and posts I deal. The rest of the so-called infractions are trivial and really make me think there are a few people around here who are taking this place far too seriously. (I am not the pot calling the kettle black, because I have gotten caught in that trap before as well. I'm just glad the anons are gone.)

Banning should be reserved for only the nastiest posters (e.g. flooders, true porn smut, racist bile...)



It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

Persilot
(stardust savant)
07/24/05 05:55 AM
Off the fence new [re: blacktropic84]  

I don't think we should ban DD74. Heck yes, the guy is often more irritating than David Dickinson and he gives the British education system a bad name with his frequently awful grammar, but at the end of the day I just can't bring myself to do it. Partly it's because it would be like taking a enthusiastic puppy outside and wringing it's neck just because it did a poo on the carpet but mostly it's because I don't believe in banning people from a message board unless they have done something really heinous (like starting a I love Neil Diamond thread.) At the end of the day you just have to sit back and laugh at the sheer stubbornness of the dog.

I think people should concentrate their time on thinking up great and interesting threads rather than concentrating their bile.

"I swear I saw your face change, it didn't seem quite right."

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/24/05 09:35 AM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Tin]  

Thanks for your very sensible and understanding post Natalie, I feel I have to pinch these few words of yours from the bilingual thread, these words struck a cord with me and it's exactly how I feel on here...

Try to please every group, big or small, and you please no one.





London Bye Ta-Ta...

th0mas
(acolyte)
07/24/05 12:39 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Try to please every group, big or small, and you please no one.


i am afraid that this not as much about pleasing as about not annoying people by a way of behaving.

Reading about all people don't like about your way of posting - not about your opinion - do you spot some things they could be right about and which you seriously would consider to change? or do you think all they say is pure nonsense? I just wondered.

I refused to have an opinion on this topic so far but perhaps answering this question could push it in one or the other direction...

Are you bad enough?

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/24/05 01:29 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: th0mas]  

In reply to:

I refused to have an opinion on this topic so far but perhaps answering this question could push it in one or the other direction...


Here th0mas be my guest




London Bye Ta-Ta...

Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/24/05 02:08 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

Banning should be reserved for only the nastiest posters (e.g. flooders, true porn smut, racist bile...)



I've done all of these things here (and a few others as well) and they still haven't banned me. Just because I'm hot it doesn't mean I should get a better treatment. Okay I take that back, I totally do.

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diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/24/05 02:43 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Beltene]  

In reply to:

I've done all of these things here (and a few others as well) and they still haven't banned me. Just because I'm hot it doesn't mean I should get a better treatment. Okay I take that back, I totally do.


You know Beltene! when I first came here and for about for 11 maybe 12 months I simply didn't understand or get your posts/threads, but now I do and I truly love you to bits.



London Bye Ta-Ta...

OleanderWhoosh
(kook)
07/24/05 02:49 PM
Re: Off the fence new [re: Persilot]  

I think I shall remain silent on this subject. I do not find ddgz annoying at all, and I shall leave it at that. I am going to keep my mouth shut and spare you all from my apparently insipid opinions. You're welcome.

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!!

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/24/05 03:05 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Monkeyboy is Ms. Togar and Marquis and schizophrenic are those two creeps who were her henchmen.


Wait a minute, back up here. Just what the fuck did I do? If you're talking about how I've sometimes pandered to Monkeyboy, then I understand, but I think it's necessary to point out that I didn't even take a side in this debate (aside from my alternate ban suggestions, which were only half-joking).




"rob corddry is a poor man's that other guy" - dice

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/24/05 03:16 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: schizophrenic]  

In reply to:

Wait a minute, back up here. Just what the fuck did I do?


YOU! havn't done anything as far as I can see, who said this and where did you copy and paste it from please?

I most certainly didn't utter these words.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/24/05 03:31 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

YOU! havn't done anything as far as I can see, who said this and where did you copy and paste it from please?
I most certainly didn't utter these words.


It was Tin. It was earlier on in the thread. I wasn't trying to imply it was you. I replied to your post simply because it was the last post in the thread.

I forgive you.


"rob corddry is a poor man's that other guy" - dice

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/24/05 03:36 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: schizophrenic]  

In reply to:

I forgive you.


Thank you


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/24/05 04:10 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: diamondogz74]  

Seriously, someone kill him.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/24/05 04:54 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

You know Beltene! when I first came here and for about for 11 maybe 12 months I simply didn't understand or get your posts/threads



That's okay, my humor doesn't translate well in English. It's really funny in Bulgarian, I swear. It's even funnier in Patagonian.

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fatwhiteduke
(grinning soul)
07/24/05 08:32 PM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Monkeyboy]  

I must admit I've only placed notes on this discussion when I've had the HILARIOUS opportunity of punning. I love puns. They're fab. Yes.

So, I just wanted to say that ddogz74 doesn't really annoy me as such, I just wish the "I agree" posts (which Monkeyboy has already admonished) could be stopped.

It's like the reply to "I forgive you". WHY REPLY? There's just no reason to. It doesn't make you any 'nicer' - and it doesn't work on a threaded post. Just PM with a thank-you (again, as Monkeyboy has advised)

I think it's great that ddogz74 is fervent enough to reply frequently. I am certainly no dogged (pardon the pun - but I do like them!) TWer but when something takes my fancy, I do like to partake - even though it's usually when the posts have died a death. Ddogz74, however, somehow keeps them going (rightly or wrongly) and for that, praise indeed.

IF - and that's a big if - ddogz74 continues with non-witty (well-intentioned or not) affirmations or opinions which provide little insight then the ban should reign but only for that reason, as he's been told this was why he was banned in the first place.



Tin
(stardust savant)
07/25/05 02:52 AM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Beltene]  

Yeah, but you're Beltene and somehow, hot or not, you receive a get out of jail free pass from me. Does that make me a hypocrite? Sure, why not... I'm no super-goddess, just another idiot poster who changes her mind more often than her socks.

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

Tin
(stardust savant)
07/25/05 02:58 AM
Oooo, libelous and slanderous new [re: schizophrenic]  

The last post I read of yours would fit into pandering to Mssr. MB. And, like you, my remarks were primarily in jest (save the one about people being a tad too serious about a blasted message board).

Would you prefer being cast as the music teacher who rebels in his own way? If not, please consult with my attorney.

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/25/05 08:36 AM
Re: Today's Modest Proposal new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Seriously, someone kill him.





London Bye Ta-Ta...

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/25/05 11:03 AM
The Man Behind the Curtain new [re: diamondogz74]  

Ok, look. I want everyone to take a good look at Dogz' last 5 posts on this thread and then tell me with a straight face that he's not a troll. There's just no way that an adult could be that willfully stupid, so mind-bendingly dense, without doing it on purpose.

My theory of the day is that DD74 = Evan Torrie. I think Evan's tired of TW, but fears the clamors of it's populace should he ever pull the plug. By creating and acting out the farce that is DD74, he ensures that, by this time next year, TW will be just another dog run, with the level of conversation maintained at a polite ass-sniff, and no current poster will have the brainpower to comprehend what happened when Evan then pulls the plug.

In the (likely) event that I'm wrong about this, I'd like to extend this advice to our mods: to paraphrase The Simpsons, every mod gets three secret bannings. If you don't use 'em, *pft!* they're gone!

Don't caucus, don't poll, don't explain, don't ask, don't tell, don't hesitate, and don't look back: make him go away, so the healing can begin. Two months from now, who will care?

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

hangontoyourself
(crash course raver)
07/25/05 11:45 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Great to see on my return that this stupid argument is still going on.

DD74 is my IDOL KEITH is my GOD
http://groups.msn.com/keithism
ALL YOU NEED IS KEITH

Arlequino
(cracked actor)
07/25/05 02:33 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: hangontoyourself]  

In reply to:

hangontoyourself


In reply to:

return


In reply to:

Great


Never thought I'd see those three words grouped together...

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay



FastChanges
(electric tomato)
07/25/05 02:37 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

I like Ddogz, he makes me laugh and he makes me feel smart.

Don't we all enjoy the fact that, although he's British, he'll never know the difference between "it's" and "its"? That's what I call a true entertainer.

I'll have a small port, thank you.
Greedy, Madam! For most people one sailor would be enough.


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/25/05 02:47 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: FastChanges]  

NO! You are wrong ! ,?

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/25/05 03:24 PM
Re: The Man Behind the Curtain new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

Two months from now, who will care?


I'll bloody care for one thing, just what is eating at you Matthew? you seem obsessed with getting shot of me

So much so it must be interfering with your job, I mean you do these spiteful emails from work I take it?

I have a lot of very good friends on here and friends to me are very important, so you don't like me or my way of posting ( so you say ) I think it's more deep rooted, you have turned quite nasty towards me, this is not due to my being here, but by some absurd jealousy you seem to harbour ( so it seems to me ) I have done you NO harm Matthew and you know it.

Now can't we let this sad thread die please? for the sake of the forum, why not put all this wasted energy you spend on me into the news section or something more worth while.

Your theory is quite bizzare.

Effee whilst indeed being a Cairn Terrier is not Toto.

In reply to:

Great to see on my return that this stupid argument is still going on.



Welcome back Laura, yes this sadness is still going strong, I think some find it funny



London Bye Ta-Ta...

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/25/05 03:55 PM
Just a spoon full of KY new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

just what is eating at you Matthew?


I think he's told you very clearly at least a dozen times.

In reply to:

I mean you do these spiteful emails from work I take it?


Emails?

In reply to:

this is not due to my being here, but by some absurd jealousy you seem to harbour


Or maybe it's the reasons he's listed numerous times. But that couldn't be...no, he's just mean and you, dear fuckhead, are practically perfect in every way.

In reply to:

for the sake of the forum, why not put all this wasted energy you spend on me into the news section or something more worth while.


If you would simply leave this would take care of itself.

In reply to:

I think some find it funny


I don't.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/25/05 07:05 PM
Re: Just a spoon full of KY new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

In reply to:

this is not due to my being here, but by some absurd jealousy you seem to harbour


Or maybe it's the reasons he's listed numerous times. But that couldn't be...no, he's just mean and you, dear fuckhead, are practically perfect in every way.


No, he isn't. Not really. If Marquis gets banned, he'll never come back as Marquis and/or use the same posting style, releasing personal information like nothing ever happened. Believe it or not, this is what makes Marquis more vulnerable than dogz. Marquis obviously does not feel comfortable with who he is. Dogz is simply a stronger player.


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BigFatDog
(kook)
07/26/05 07:15 AM
Dogztostay new [re: Monkeyboy]  

DD can and will only be banned for his posting nature. Just because some people don't like DD as a person is irrelevant. DD no longer posts excessively, doesn't post offensive stuff, doesn't start unnecessary threads and is generally a pleasant poster. And at least he particpates in most threads. If anything, the board is being kept alive by posters such as DD.

If you wanna ban someone, make it that cock carsten.

____

"Hating Bowie in 1997 means hating everything overblown, theatrical, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual and jarringly progressive in the past 25 years of pop. In other words, everything great about pop. It also means hating yourself."

Persilot
(stardust savant)
07/26/05 09:53 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: FastChanges]  

In reply to:

although he's British, he'll never know the difference between "it's" and "its"?


What does the fact he's British got to do with anything? Are we meant to be better spellers or something?

"I swear I saw your face change, it didn't seem quite right."

FastChanges
(electric tomato)
07/26/05 10:27 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Persilot]  

I can't think of many French who can spell French words correctly, so I guess you're right.

I'll have a small port, thank you.
Greedy, Madam! For most people one sailor would be enough.


Marquis
(acolyte)
07/26/05 04:15 PM
My Valued Contribution new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

you have turned quite nasty towards me, this is not due to my being here, but by some absurd jealousy you seem to harbour



Ahahahahhhahahahahahahhahah!!!!!!!Ah... ha... ha...

*sniff*

Ha..

*chortle*

In reply to:

Beltene


Guh? Bah.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/26/05 06:58 PM
DoggieWonderWorld new [re: BigFatDog]  

In reply to:

Just because some people don't like DD as a person is irrelevant


More to the point, just because some people *do* like him as a person doesn't mean he shouldn't be held to the same standards as anyone else.

In reply to:

DD no longer posts excessively


What're you, simple? His posts constitute 10% of TW! Which brings us to:

In reply to:

And at least he particpates in most threads. If anything, the board is being kept alive by posters such as DD.


Participates? Do you mean ruins? Cause surely you don't mean that he adds anything meaningful. Because he doesn't. Ever. Dogz isn't keeping anything alive; at best, he's the embalming fluid which keeps TW's corpse looking lifelike, simultaneously draining it of it's blood.

Beltene, I have read your post ten times, but I'm still not getting what you mean.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/26/05 07:40 PM
Re: DoggieWonderWorld new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

he's the embalming fluid which keeps TW's corpse looking lifelike


So without him we would all realise this place is dead and go our separate ways.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Marquis
(acolyte)
07/26/05 08:14 PM
Etherized upon the table new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

Well, no, not exactly; I'll admit it's an imperfect metaphor. You've got to bear in mind that if TW is, in fact, a stuffed corpse of a formerly lively message board, then Dogz, more than any poster in it's history, bears the blame for killing it.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/26/05 08:57 PM
Re: Etherized upon the table new [re: Marquis]  

That is just bull.

If this place is on its' last breath it is because the site creator lost interest.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Marquis
(acolyte)
07/26/05 10:14 PM
Cementing my loss in the next Mod elections new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

No, that is bull. I've been coming to TW for 6 or 7 years now, and even way back then, Evan was more figure of legend than everyday contributor. Even factoring in the stagnation of the main TW page (as opposed to CP), there has been scads of good posting since Evan left. There still is, occasionally, though thanks to Anthony, most of it is stiffled under a mountain of Googled pictures and emoticons.

He ruins threads, promotes an atmosphere of chatty inanity, and all in all makes this board a worse place than it was before he came. When's the last time a poster had 5+ threads (of 100+ posts each) dedicated to hating him? Better yet, when was the last time a poster like failed, time and again, to provide a)justification and b)a pledge to get in line?

I've got nearly 600 posts left before I get a custom title and retire from TW, resting on my laurels, and unless Dogz either shapes up (which he won't) or ships out (which he won't), I fear that a good 2/3 of them will be dedicated to bringing his empire of dullardry down.

And to jump the gun on your response: no, I can not and will not ignore him. He's an active lesion, one which requires constant doses of acid to keep it from spreading. Asking us (the "us" at the moment being, apparently, Monkeyboy and I) to roll over and let him have run of the place without at least getting to make cruel jokes at his expense goes against everything I stand for.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/26/05 10:31 PM
Re: DoggieWonderWorld new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

Beltene, I have read your post ten times, but I'm still not getting what you mean.



It wasn't directed at you. I was just saying that it is not very common for posters to come back as themselves after they were banned. It takes balls for that.


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Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/26/05 10:40 PM
Re: DoggieWonderWorld new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

n reply to:

Just because some people don't like DD as a person is irrelevant


More to the point, just because some people *do* like him as a person doesn't mean he shouldn't be held to the same standards as anyone else.


Now it's my turn to be lost, eh? Yeah. I am.


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Marquis
(acolyte)
07/26/05 10:47 PM
Legalese new [re: Beltene]  

All I meant is that it seems that whenever I or someone else points out Dogz' shortcomings as a poster, those who leap to his defense often say that he's "a good person." Which well may be, but I'm not passing character judgement, I'm just saying his posts suck and there are far too many of them.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 01:05 AM
Re: Legalese new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

Which well may be, but I'm not passing character judgement, I'm just saying his posts suck and there are far too many of them.



Yes but you shouldn't be expecting dogz to be changing his writing style or to be having a meltdown because of how you feel about him. He's obviously not that type of a person.

I believe that dogz(or anyone else for that matter) should be allowed to say whatever he wants, however he wants. Afterall, isn't that what freedom of speech is all about?

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SoulLoveChild
(acolyte)
07/27/05 01:31 AM
and on it goes.... new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

'm just saying his posts suck and there are far too many of them.


This thread to date:

Monkeyboy: 14 posts.
Marquis: 13 posts.
Dogz: 11 posts, and seeing the topic is about him and he's defending himself, he's doing rather well with this low score.

Give up Marquis, your argument is starting to develop holes which might be hard to dig yourself out of if you keep going on and on about this. I understand you boys need someone to have a dig at, but seriously, the Dogz arguement is wearing very thin after all this time. Or are you simply trying to make everyone think Dogz posts too much by outdoing him here?

I'm still at a loss to understand why Monkeyboy is so upset about Dogz, why he jumps on every post of Ant's with bristling anger. I haven't seen Monkeyboy this upset since he was stalked on the old TWMB, and Dogz certainly hasn't done anything that pathetic to inspire this sort of mb hatred. Monkeyboy, just ignore him mate!

OK, I'm going off skiing again now. Cya xxx

Get Bowie Back Downunder!
GBBD 2005 !!!!





Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/27/05 03:52 AM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: SoulLoveChild]  

It amazes me how these so called 'intelligent' posters haven't got the fact that if they keep talking and bemoaning somebody, that it just fuels things. We have monkeyboy replying to nearly every post Ant makes with something like 'I hate you'. For gods sake, if you don't like the guy, don't reply to him, then he will have half as many posts to reply to himself. Common logic, that's what that is. Looking up over this thread it is really to any great degree MB and Marquis who are finding any huge fault. People like Persilot, Arlequino and Bigfatdog, people who were very vocal in their condemnation of Ant a year ago have now defended him. BFD started a thread the day Ant came back saying that he shouldn't have been reinstated, Alequino said that the board was better without him. These people now defend him

Monkeyboy, Marquis, you are killing the board with this pathetic witch-hunt. I know of a couple of people who I am not at liberty to name, who are really pissed off with this campaign and are taking a sabatical from here because of it. Go back and start writing some of your entertaining posts and threads and stop wasting your talent on this futile and nasty vendetta.

Hate me for this if you like, I am almost past caring now.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 04:13 AM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:


Monkeyboy, Marquis, you are killing the board with this pathetic witch-hunt. I know of a couple of people who I am not at liberty to name, who are really pissed off with this campaign and are taking a sabatical from here because of it. Go back and start writing some of your entertaining posts and threads and stop wasting your talent on this futile and nasty vendetta.


Like this is out of character for either one of us?

And please don't tell me what to do. You know I don't take requests. Besides, if you really think this is dragging the board down perhaps you (and everyone who is bothered by it) should take your own advice and simply ignore what we are saying about Ddgz.

I don't know about Marquis, but if my opposition to Ddgz becomes just as much a hassle to everyone else as his posts are to me then at least I've done what I can to demonstrate just how hard it is to ignore him.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/27/05 04:21 AM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Well, I have ignored a lot of the crap, I could have said a lot more.

I have had my say, you have had yours, now shut the fuck up about it, you are getting monotonous.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


BigFatDog
(kook)
07/27/05 04:24 AM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

BFD started a thread the day Ant came back saying that he shouldn't have been reinstated


Yeah, and I meant it at the time too. The thing is, Ant did irritate me. Asking questions he could have quite easily have found out himself and the like. Then I remembered that this is nothing but a message board, and he is just a bloke who frequents it. Then I grew quite fond of the bloke.

____

"Hating Bowie in 1997 means hating everything overblown, theatrical, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual and jarringly progressive in the past 25 years of pop. In other words, everything great about pop. It also means hating yourself."

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 04:30 AM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

now shut the fuck up about it, you are getting monotonous.


Yes, but I'm such a nice guy and it's the only thing keeping the Site Feedbag forum alive, so...yeah...

You've made your point but if you think I'm going to shut up then you really don't know me very well. And I'll admit that this all might be a character flaw, but i like to see it as something more noble than that. It gets me through the night, you know.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/27/05 04:39 AM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: Monkeyboy]  

But just think of the opportunities, you could spend more time looking for photos of Tom Selleck and Sting. I'm just thinking of you.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 04:57 AM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  



"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/27/05 10:30 AM
Can't stop til you get enough! new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Besides, if you really think this is dragging the board down perhaps you (and everyone who is bothered by it) should take your own advice and simply ignore what we are saying about Ddgz. I don't know about Marquis, but if my opposition to Ddgz becomes just as much a hassle to everyone else as his posts are to me then at least I've done what I can to demonstrate just how hard it is to ignore him.


I'm much too tired to post coherently at the moment, so I'm glad that I can just say "I Agree" to this.

Unlike Monkeyboy, I'm more of a reactive poster than a thread-starter, so if the prevalent thing to respond to is Dogz Drivel, then the vast majority of my posting is going to be about how much he sucks. Don't worry about it, though. Before too long, if he keeps it up, perhaps I'll join p2c in TW Valhalla, and you can be content to wallow in his shit ad infinitum.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/27/05 10:44 AM
Re: Can't stop til you get enough! new [re: Marquis]  

Yeah let's have people leave because you two keep moaning about someone, rather than leave because dd74 annoys them. Mmm, if one reason won't get you the other one will.

Well done boys.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Marquis
(acolyte)
07/27/05 11:45 AM
Get down with your bad self new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

Well I'm sorry, Pablo, but you can't have it both ways. If Dogz is allowed to post as much as he wants of whatever he wants, then so am I. You're welcome to bozo me.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/27/05 11:52 AM
Re: Get down with your bad self new [re: Marquis]  

Matthew sadly you are coming across as a prize shit stirrer.



For goodness sake let this sad thread close please.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/27/05 12:15 PM
Re: Get down with your bad self new [re: Marquis]  

Well, all I am trying to do is show the double standards here, I have no reason to bozo you, because usually you say things I enjoy reading, even if I don't actually agree with you.



Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 12:49 PM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: SoulLoveChild]  

In reply to:

I'm still at a loss to understand why Monkeyboy is so upset about Dogz, why he jumps on every post of Ant's with bristling anger



Cuz dogz doesn't seem to mind and there's obviously not much happening.


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diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/27/05 01:44 PM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: Beltene]  

In reply to:

Cuz dogz doesn't seem to mind and there's obviously not much happening.


Clever and extremely sexy, two qualties I admire very much in Beltene


London Bye Ta-Ta...

White Prism
(cracked actor)
07/27/05 02:09 PM
Google On Down new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

Marquis:
the most callous of TWers (i.e. Prism)




I *knew* I had to be best at something. I'll chalk that among my other accolades such as laziest debater, poster with worst PM backlog, and TWer with quickest descent into not giving a fuck anymore. Not much going for me on the face of it, until you realise I still have a joint-Mr TWship with Monkeyboy that is, taking into account Phoenix's unfortunate departure and Dara's impeachment for her inexcusable cruelty to animals and that, in retrospect, those characteristics encapsulate quite neatly what a true TWer is about.......... HEAR THAT, KEEFISM?

But true, I get by on trenchancy alone nowadays. Which, technically, would make an argument like this a veritable goldmine for the likes of myself, but there's a danger that continuous venom loses its effect, and that when I hurl myself into criticising Beltene for the umpteenth time by saying that she and intelligent posting are diametrically opposed by as far as her legs are spread that I don't really mean it when, in fact, I do. So, I abstain. My only regret is that no-one deployed the time-honoured 'posting wastes valuable server space and you've gone 'n' archived all p2c's awesome pee-shy threads ' argument, which would've been my first port of call with the habitual flooders in question. As it is, I'm going to end with a fuzzy warm TW moment instead:

In reply to:

Arlequino:
White Prism 'great' poster capable of spinning out fantastic, interesting, funny and well-written posts on a whim.


Arlequino, Auntie Prism loves you too. *royal wave*

Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking when I said
Id like to smash every tooth in your head


schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 02:56 PM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: diamondogz74]  

Okay, I'm finally tossing in my (official) two cents on this whole goddamned thing.

There are quite a few things about dogz that annoy me, many of which have been mentioned here before and I'll be damned if I'm gonna go through this whole thread to dig them up again. The point is, while I do think he has improved (somewhat), he still gets on my nerves.

Having said that, however, I can definitely say the easiest way to deal with him is to ignore him. I honestly don't read half the stuff he posts because I know it's gonna be the same thing over and over and over again. So I don't read it. It's as simple as that. Most of the threads he contributes to are incredibly dull anyway (Vacation pics? Odd eBay items?), and those that aren't are usually compensated for by the amount of interesting posters willing to throw in their own opinions (mind you, most of these people hate dogz, but that's besides the point).

Essentially, all this thread has done has made me actually read his posts, which, in turn, has just annoyed the shit out of me. Well done, lads. Well done.


I'm almost two kilometres tall.

Tin
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 03:18 PM
A little psychoanalysis new [re: schizophrenic]  

I think I've found why dear Monkeyboy is having such troubles w/ddz....

The DSM-IV Diagnostic Criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder are:

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, lack of empathy, as indicated by at least five of:

1. a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, ie unreasonable expectations of especially favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, ie takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy and is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes
(traits 5-9 seem especially relevant)

So, Monkeyboy... do you see yourself or am I just pissin' in the wind here?


It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/27/05 03:31 PM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: schizophrenic]  

In reply to:

Most of the threads he contributes to are incredibly dull anyway (Vacation pics? Odd eBay items?)


Nobody can please all of the people all of the time can they? whilst you may consider the above mentioned threads boring, I most certainly do not and neither do the members who join in the threads, I also have started many threads concerning Bowie ( isn't this a Bowie forum? ) you are chosing to undermine me, my contributions here appear to please many members, Im sorry they do not please you.

You see we can't all be Matthews or MonkeyBoys thank goodness, Imagine the staleness of this forum were it to be so?

Hammer away at me if it pleases you? I am not here to upset anyone, I am here because I genuinely love the place and have very many friends here.

Like me or not, I think you are fine.

This being a forum made up of very many different minds/living ideals etc... It is impossible for us all to be on the one same wavelength.

In all honesty, I actually like everyone here, even MonkeyBoy.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 03:48 PM
Re: and on it goes.... new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Nobody can please all of the people all of the time can they?


I'm not asking you to go out of your way to entertain me, I'm just stating my opinion. I realize you try to contribute, and that's fine. I just don't find your writing style terribly engaging - obviously it's just a matter of personal preference.

In reply to:

Hammer away at me if it pleases you? I am not here to upset anyone, I am here because I genuinely love the place and have very many friends here.


Again, I'm not going out of my way to hurt you, I'm merely stating my opinion. Whether you choose to take it personally is your business.


I'm almost two kilometres tall.

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 04:20 PM
Nice try new [re: Tin]  

Only 3/9 there and that's if I really stretch the truth.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 04:23 PM
Re: Get down with your bad self new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

For goodness sake let this sad thread close please.


Simply leave - or kill yourself - and it will.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 04:28 PM
I've got your double standard right here new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

Well, all I am trying to do is show the double standards here, I have no reason to bozo you, because usually you say things I enjoy reading, even if I don't actually agree with you.


I refuse to believe that anyone who defends Ddgz's incoherent babble would be against our enthusiasm to try to improve these boards, no matter how flawed. After all, the point is that we have good intentions, right?

Double standards, indeed.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/27/05 04:45 PM
Re: I've got your double standard right here new [re: Monkeyboy]  

If you look above, I have given criticism to Ant's posting style and ways he could improve, I am not blind, I just think banning is unfair and that this whole thing is really vindictive. I am really sick of having to justify this.

I wish someone would ban me, then I wouldn't have too see all this crap.

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 04:51 PM
Re: I've got your double standard right here new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

I wish someone would ban me, then I wouldn't have too see all this crap.


Or you could take your own advice and ignore: a) this thread and b) any response I have to any of the drooling fag's posts.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 04:52 PM
Re: I've got your double standard right here new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

OR

You have a bozo filter. No one's stopping you from using it.

I'm almost two kilometres tall.

Edited by schizophrenic on 07/27/05 04:54 PM (server time).



Marquis
(acolyte)
07/27/05 05:01 PM
Billy Mumfry new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

I have given criticism to Ant's posting style and ways he could improve


Which bears striking resemblance to all of the other criticisms he's been given over the years, none of which he's so much as made an attempt at listening to. They are, in fact, the very things outlined by the moderizzles as justification for their original ban, *and* the things which, purportedly, would lead to a swift and permanent ban should he fall back into them (which he did with zeal and aplomb).

Which, as you know, I've said 10 times on this very thread.

So what we need, I think, is some sort of word from our hushed mods. I'm not saying this in any sort of aggressive manner - not saying that anyone's been asleep at the switch and should be replaced. However, as our dour friend Humbert so helpfully reminded us, sparking this newest round of debate/shit-slinging, there were stipulations attached to Dogz' return to TW, the breaching of which were to be grounds for dismissal again, and which some of us feel he has not lived up to. I hate to drag Sys, EJ, and Ohro away from their summer fun - not to mention Adam from his winter fun - but some sort of notion of what's brewing at Mod Central would be appreciated.

Finally, I'll reiterate what I think I sort of hinted at before: in a best-case scenario for me, Dogz would not be banned. He would bridle his "enthusiasm" and behave as everyone else but Claude does.* But as he seems dead set on making it an either/or decision, I've yet to be convinced that TW should bend it's rules of regulation to satisfy the whims of one dolt.

*edit: and before I start getting lectures about embracing individual posting styles/forcing people to follow a "model" posting style, let me say YET AGAIN that that is not the issue.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

Pablo-Picasso
(crash course raver)
07/27/05 05:07 PM
Re: Billy Mumfry new [re: Marquis]  

Do we still have moderators?

Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.


Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 05:21 PM
Re: A little psychoanalysis new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

The DSM-IV Diagnostic Criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder are:

A pervasive pattern of grandiosity, need for admiration, lack of empathy, as indicated by at least five of:

1. a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is "special" and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement, ie unreasonable expectations of especially favourable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
6. is interpersonally exploitative, ie takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
7. lacks empathy and is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviours or attitudes
(traits 5-9 seem especially relevant)

So, Monkeyboy... do you see yourself or am I just pissin' in the wind here?


Don't know about Monkeyboy but I totally saw myself there.


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Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 05:24 PM
Re: A little psychoanalysis new [re: Beltene]  

If you add money greedy and homophobic, you'll have my complete profile.

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SoulLoveChild
(acolyte)
07/27/05 05:50 PM
BOZO filter new [re: schizophrenic]  

In reply to:

You have a bozo filter. No one's stopping you from using it.


No-one's stopping Monkeyboy and Marquis using theirs either.


Get Bowie Back Downunder!
GBBD 2005 !!!!





Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 05:52 PM
Re: BOZO filter new [re: SoulLoveChild]  

Thanks for the edit. I think you probably know what I would have said.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

SoulLoveChild
(acolyte)
07/27/05 06:27 PM
Re: BOZO filter new [re: Monkeyboy]  

You know I love you young chap and have done for a long time. It pains me to see you so ill at ease with the board and it's contributers.

Peace.

(Im off to yoga now!)

Get Bowie Back Downunder!
GBBD 2005 !!!!





Tin
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 07:30 PM
Re: Nice try new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Yes, but which three?

Damn, guess I've gotta go back to the books, but I'm too lazy. So I'll go back to the male version of Togar. How's that?

Beltene, Somehow I am not surprised by this fit. Apparently you're a hybrid of the NPD, which would greatly excite some psychoanalyst I'm sure.

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/27/05 08:38 PM
Re: Nice try new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

Yes, but which three?


2, 3, & 7

In reply to:

Damn, guess I've gotta go back to the books, but I'm too lazy.


Try looking at the long term effects of living in an emotionally abusive family unit if you really want to get into my pathology.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/27/05 09:02 PM
Re: Nice try new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

Somehow I am not surprised by this fit. Apparently you're a hybrid of the NPD, which would greatly excite some psychoanalyst I'm sure.


Well, you shouldn't be surprized really. I've been providing you with all sorts of clues for the past couple of years. I also have a severe case of genital herpes by the way which would greatly excite alot of gynacologists. I prefer to get them excited, at least they use a recognized scientific method when coming up with a diagnosis.

I also have every possible disease out there that you cannot be clinically tested for. Every single one of them. You name it, I've got it(provided this gets me free stuff and cool parking spots)

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Tin
(stardust savant)
07/28/05 04:27 AM
Re: Nice try new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Try looking at the long term effects of living in an emotionally abusive family unit if you really want to get into my pathology.


If that in any way includes megalomaniac controlling, guilt producing, and impossible expectation behaviors directed at you by said family I can relate all too well. And here the joke ends and fact takes over fiction and we enter territory best left for face to face conversations, not mb madness. Thus ending my mediocre attempt at humor in an otherwise bitchfest thread. I'd never be cruel w/o looking someone in the eye and that empathy thing... I do have it, so cruelty is only reserved for the truly deserving, which simply doesn't fit here.

Beltene, on the other hand, seems to relish in such "quirks", so you just go girl... you already know how to use it. Just save sharing your diseases for those who deserve such gifts.

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
07/28/05 04:31 AM
Re: Billy Mumfry new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

Do we still have moderators?


I'm here, I'm not sure if any of the others are. And I admit I've been purposefully avoiding taking part in this conversation, because people would be asking for action and opinion and I feel I can't make any decisions on this matter that would be fair and unbiased. And every time I try to make something even closely resembling a mod action I get accused of being a power-hungy yeti.

Still, as a personal opinion... Dogz isn't nearly as bad today as he was a year ago. But, admittedly, his posting isn't as good as it was in the few months after he was re-admitted into the boards. In my opinion his current behaviour doesn't warrant banning him (that doesn't mean he shouldn't try to improve his posting style). But these are only my opinions as a poster, not something to base moderator decisions on.

Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

SoulLoveChild
(acolyte)
07/28/05 05:49 AM
verdict's in new [re: Sysiyo]  

He's still winning the poll leaning toward "no don't ban him" quite strongly. So the board has voted and he stays. Many have suggested Ant look at his posting technique. Many others could look at their own while they're at it.

Can we lock this thread now? It's over (for another year anyway )

Get Bowie Back Downunder!
GBBD 2005 !!!!





Strawman
(acolyte)
07/28/05 05:57 AM
Leading By Example new [re: White Prism]  

The "great" & revered posters that choose to abstain are as much to blame for the demise of this message board as ddz74 is -- In actual fact they're likely more guilty -- Surely their "greatness" would have them stick around in the attempt to make this place "great" once again and lesser mortals such as ddz74 would feel disorientated & finally fuck off to sites he's better suited too, such as 'Bowienet', 'BWW' & 'I'm an extremely slow learning, marmite-miner & a glutton for punishment dot com.'

But no - All we witness from these "wise" & "great" posters is the quarterly or so 'Kiss my arse' post consisting of "Hi! Just writing to let the odd "greats" remaining know that I'm still fucking wonderful, please don't forget me, and in the unlikeliness that you ever do, you must reply to this thread and join me in berating the lowly idiots here & let them know how "great" things use to be -- Bye! Love you, but not as much as I love myself."

Sporadic posts of conceit & negativity from former "great" posters are about as much use as tits on a fish to this or any other message board, so for the benefit of TW, contribute positively on a regular basis and if you don't like what you see, fuck off without comment - It really is that simple.





Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/28/05 07:10 AM
Come on, now new [re: SoulLoveChild]  

Well, you're right that he is winning but it is currently by only 4 votes. In America we call that a "mandate." Wait a minute... oh shit, we really do, don't we?

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

SoulLoveChild
(acolyte)
07/28/05 09:49 AM
mandates are for real boys new [re: Monkeyboy]  

LOL!

But seriously, have a good look at your poll.

The first 2 options are yes and now are standing at 33 + 2 = 35.

The last 2 options are no and now are standing at 26 + 9 = 35.

Very interestingly, the YES number was 22 only 4 hours ago when I last checked so it's obvious that the usual TW sudden alter ego poll adjusting is kicking in, considering I actually reminded everyone that there was a poll to vote in at the start of this thread.

Anyways , there's snow in my flat, so I'm off to play for a while now

Get Bowie Back Downunder!
GBBD 2005 !!!!





Beltene
(stardust savant)
07/28/05 11:33 AM
Re: Nice try new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

Beltene, on the other hand, seems to relish in such "quirks", so you just go girl... you already know how to use it.




I will, don't you worry.


In reply to:

Just save sharing your diseases for those who deserve such gifts.


Or rather for those who get what I'm saying. Here, I'll try again.

You accused Monkeyboy of having this "disorder". After reading the symptoms, I came to the conclusion that everybody I've ever met exhibited some or most of these symptoms at some point during our aquantance. I've met many people in my life, I've lived in 3 different countries, 2 different continents. Americans throw the biggest fits, I'm guessing this is why Psychology is so big in America.

Now, Tin. You seem like you think you know where I am coming from but you don't. Not really. And also your sense of humor is obviously a bit underdeveloped. So leave me and Monkeyboy alone before you get my genital herpes. It's twice as contagious thru the net, they say.

Share Zi Love

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/28/05 11:59 AM
Re: mandates are for real boys new [re: SoulLoveChild]  

In reply to:

The first 2 options are yes and now are standing at 33 + 2 = 35.

The last 2 options are no and now are standing at 26 + 9 = 35.

Very interestingly, the YES number was 22 only 4 hours ago when I last checked so it's obvious that the usual TW sudden alter ego poll adjusting is kicking in


This poll is obviously rigged, arn't rigged polls normally declared void?


London Bye Ta-Ta...

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
07/28/05 12:31 PM
Re: Leading By Example new [re: Strawman]  

I think Strawman brought up the best argument on this thread so far.

Not that I have anything to add to it, mind you, but...yeah. Well done, chap.

I'm almost two kilometres tall.

Tin
(stardust savant)
07/28/05 02:34 PM
Say wha'? new [re: Beltene]  

In reply to:

You accused Monkeyboy of having this "disorder". After reading the symptoms, I came to the conclusion that everybody I've ever met exhibited some or most of these symptoms at some point during our aquantance. I've met many people in my life, I've lived in 3 different countries, 2 different continents. Americans throw the biggest fits, I'm guessing this is why Psychology is so big in America


Actually, I asked, not accused, if you want to get to the nitty gritty. I can't say why Psychology is big here. I can say I grew up with a mother who was a psychologist.

Someone I know jokingly referred to himself as having NPD, and I thought it was funny and relevant. In other words, making a mockery of the idea of being able to classify someone by a short list. Get it? BTW, the joker in question is English, not American.

And if I don't fully understand where you're coming from, please help me "get it." As for an underdeveloped sense of humor, here you clearly don't know me. It apparently doesn't translate well via print, either that or all my years of working with bands and mostly dudes has made me more base than I realize. But wait, base humor rules this place. So once again I say HUH?

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

White Prism
(cracked actor)
07/28/05 03:18 PM
NHS Staff are overworked and underpaid! new [re: Strawman]  

In reply to:

Surely their "greatness" would have them stick around in the attempt to make this place "great" once again and lesser mortals such as ddz74 would feel disorientated & finally fuck off


True to an extent, though perhaps 'blame' is a little too strong. I've commented before that I would keep up continuous posting regardless of the quality of the boards if only I had the free time. (I think the 'Is TW for People Who Don't Have Sex?' thread concluded that holding down a full time job was particularly injurious in this regard, though apparently for not all posters.*) I joined TW because I was interested in interacting on the message board, *not* to strike up personal relationships with posters something I was originally quite against, for that would be really desperate and lonely though inevitably I became friendly with some people and now I 'waste' time that could be spent posting ('waste' in the sense if I'd stuck to my original plan) in emailing and keeping relationships alive elsewhere.

And yes, those who remain dedicated to the site for years are far more likely to achieve a 'greatness' . . . for what its worth. Basically, to become a hero in any enclosed community like this is to simply become a mainstay. Dara and Monkeyboy strike me as likely to stick to the site to its bitter end, partly because of the length of time they've been here already, and partly because they're willing to reply to anybody's posts, whether it be yourself or Charlie Manson.** Naturally, with their regular interaction they attract people with similar ideas and humour and, quite rightly, over the course of time they become quite good at it and gain the recognition they deserve within the community they've created.

Which I hope will go some way in explaining my position on the Dogz issue. Having bozoed him for months now, I can't say I notice his presence much on the board, even though he obviously interacts with others and gets quoted on a regular basis. I think the curiosity of 'what lies behind the bozo' is the downfall of many people who use it only in retaliation; they don't give it time to work. What was quoted of his parochial views on the 'bombing' threads aren't that far removed from the opinions of several other TWers, so for me his arguments blend into one indistinguishable entity that can be classified as the Idiot TWer. The fact they came from Dogz is irrelevant to how I read the boards. Basically, he can stay for all I care, he doesn't affect me directly, hence my 'abstention' in my previous post.

But then I should've prefaced that by saying my opinion should count very little on the issue of what should be done about him because I visit TW rarely and more importantly interact on TW even rarer. Ergo, I would tend to trust the views of someone like Marquis because he's super smart, he's been here for an eternity and posts a fair bit - that would be one way of knowing that it's like to interact with the poster in question - but again abstention is really the only option I can personally vouch for. I'm not sure, but I don't think that 'great' posters views carry any more weight on this issue.

In reply to:

Sporadic posts of conceit & negativity from former "great" posters are about as much use as tits on a fish to this or any other message board, so for the benefit of TW, contribute positively on a regular basis and if you don't like what you see, fuck off without comment


Agreed, but I'm worried about your constant sticking the word 'great' in quotation marks. Are you inferring that, despite numerous hints in my last post that I see myself now as little more than predominantly useless, and that despite somehow (hilariously) bluffing my way through to the semis of the Mr TW competition (which can be fun to reference occasionally just to explode the myth of what passes as 'great' posting in this place) that you think that *I* consider, or used to consider, myself 'great', or even anything barely above average?



I went into overload for a year and waffled a bit. Fuck you.

* See subject line for further details.
** I'll allow future contributors to this thread to delineate the precise differences between the two posters in question.


Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking when I said
Id like to smash every tooth in your head


Marquis
(acolyte)
07/28/05 03:48 PM
Vanilla Sky new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

This poll is obviously rigged, arn't rigged polls normally declared void?


You mean like the election in Iraq?

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/28/05 04:01 PM
Re: Vanilla Sky new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

You mean like the election in Iraq?


Actually Matthew I was thinking more like your 2000 election, now that was a prime example to set the western world.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Marquis
(acolyte)
07/28/05 05:16 PM
It's all they deserve, right? new [re: diamondogz74]  

Yes, both good examples of fair, well-run elections. Strange that you'd criticize one and not the other, isn't it?

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

JamieSim
(kook)
07/28/05 07:32 PM
Bitter Sweet Symphony The Verve new [re: Marquis]  

No he is right to criticise one and not the other.
America being the land of the free, one of the biggest democracies in the world, the largest economy in the world and of course the country that likes to tell other nations what to do. We would expect more from the US. The world would have thought that the Americans could produce a fair balanced election.
Where as on the other side we have Iraq a new democracy we would expect problems in that part of the world whats the USAs excuse.

Why do you continue to argue the opposite of everything DD74 says your just being a bit of a twat Mathew. Ive been looking at this part of the site for the last few weeks and although I dont want to get into your inner politics I just wanted to say that I really respect Anthony staying out of a subject which concentrates on him that in my view is probably the right attitude to take with people like you and your west cost friend.

After looking at Anthonys all users post (Sorry for being nosey Ant) you can easily see that this silly little thread has not affected him one bit, not that he should be he is after all one of this sites flagship members. Look inside his recent posts and you will see hes posted all a round TW and hardly ever visited a subject which is all about him however looking at your recent history the opposite can be argued for you Matthew it would seem that you have been consumed by this topic ok youve done a bit of posting in the main coffee shop but it seems to have consumed you completely. I mean dont you live in New York is their nothing else to do in New York these days. I can see from your profile that your not that much older than me 7, 8 years in it something like that I can only hope that Im not as bitter and sad as you when I reach that age.

In the UK we have an organisation called the C.P.S (crown prosecution) I bring this up because this is feeling more and more like a criminal trial before proceeding with a trial they follow these policies for every case

Public Interest Test
Evidential test

Do you really think that you have sufficient evidence to get rid of DD74 from this website and do you really think that it is in the interest of the users to get rid of him because all I can here is the same old argument day after day I think hes a lot more interesting than you in my view

God Ive gone on for a bit sorry everyone.




Marquis
(acolyte)
07/28/05 08:21 PM
This is your legacy, Dogz new [re: JamieSim]  

In reply to:

The world would have thought that the Americans could produce a fair balanced election.Where as on the other side we have Iraq a new democracy we would expect problems in that part of the world whats the USAs excuse.


Both sets of election fraud were, in essence, overseen by the same people. Both are reprehensible. You seem to be trying to argue that it doesn't really matter that the elections in Iraq were fraudulent. My point was that it makes no sense for someone like Dogz to complain about the 2000 US Presidential election, and then turn around and cite the election in Iraq as an example of why the invasion was a good thing.

In reply to:

I just wanted to say that I really respect Anthony staying out of a subject which concentrates on him that in my view is probably the right attitude to take with people like you and your west cost friend.


Respect, eh? What is it you respect? That he occupies a position so indefensible that he can't even form a cogent argument as to why he should be allowed to break rules which everyone else is held to?

In reply to:

he is after all one of this sites flagship members


Chortle. Link me, please, a few examples of great posts he's made, things which enriched the experience of TW for anyone other than himself.

In reply to:

youve done a bit of posting in the main coffee shop but it seems to have consumed you completely. I mean dont you live in New York is their nothing else to do in New York these days.


Basically, I find this discussion a lot more interesting than most of the rest of TW at the moment. Forgive me for not wanting to recommend a Bowie album to a newbie for the 19th time. Furthermore, I post exclusively from work (thus lending a crushing blow to the credibility of Dogz' "What kind of employee are you?" thread - surely another example of wonderful posting from his "cut and paste" file), so don't worry yourself too much about my leisure time.

In reply to:

I can see from your profile that your not that much older than me 7, 8 years in it something like that I can only hope that Im not as bitter and sad as you when I reach that age.


And I can only hope that you learn how to read and write. And to not presume to know the first thing about "the real me" from a handful of posts on the internet.

In reply to:

Do you really think that you have sufficient evidence to get rid of DD74 from this website and do you really think that it is in the interest of the users to get rid of him


Well, let's look at this:

Sufficient Evidence - Well, first and foremost, we have the individual's case history as one of the few posters ever banned from TW. What is it that got him banned the first time? Why, the very things I'm complaining about now! The same things which were to have gotten him re-banned if he were to repeat them. How far Dogz has backslid is the only question, really, and one which I'm more than happy to let the mods decide, and I'll admit it isn't an easy one. Even in the anonymity of Monkeyboy's poll, I voted for a probation rather than outright banning, because deep down I really just want Dogz to get his act together and show some common fucking courtesy.

General Interest - Well, that's wholly dependent on which posters you're talking about. For lunkheads like you, it would be decidedly bad if Dogz were booted, because his contrast makes you look like a fucking rocket scientist. There'd be one less person to hold your hand and say "Don't worry, JAMIEBOT, you can flood the boards as much as you might ever wish and no one will care"

For those good posters like Pablo and Tin who've come to his defense time and again, things are a little trickier. On the one hand, Pablo wouldn't have to spend half his time doing what, by all rights, Dogz should be able to do himself (i.e. defending his positions, watching over the quality of his posts). On the other, there is the fact that somehow they find it cute when someone starts a thread about a movie and Anthony posts three times to say "I haven't seen it? Is? It any good" followed by an oh-so-fascinating link to Amazon.com. Truthfully, though I find this incomprehensible, it's enough to get him off the hook for banning, or would be if he'd make any efforts at restraint.

For the rest of us, the prospect of reading a thread which doesn't immediately descend into a bout of pictures and drool would be bliss. Just ask any of the TWers who've left due to his reign of terror.

In reply to:

I think hes a lot more interesting than you in my view


Perhaps your view is clouded by your inability to think.

In reply to:

God Ive gone on for a bit sorry everyone.


Not as sorry as we are.

Tonight your ghost will ask my ghost,
Who put these bodies between us?
Listen to All Caps, Sundays @ 6 PM

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/29/05 12:18 PM
Re: This is your legacy, Dogz new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

Just ask any of the TWers who've left due to his reign of terror.


For gods sake Matthew give your fingers a break PLEASE!

My so called reign of terror, If you truly believe your own words? then I feel I must agree with Jamie and say that you are coming across as a bit of a twat, which is rather sad to say the least.

I always, always read your posts with great interest, I don't always agree with them but I respect your views as an individual, as I would hope you now respected mine.

It's obvious my intellect is not upto your *extremely* high standards you appear to set yourself.

Give this thread the bin now please.

BTW Matthew, I don't think I shall be replying much more to your posts in this tiresome thread, you last silly rant was putting it blunty just codswallop.




London Bye Ta-Ta...

FastChanges
(electric tomato)
07/29/05 02:00 PM
Re: This is your legacy, Dogz new [re: diamondogz74]  

I agree!!!


I'll have a small port, thank you.
Greedy, Madam! For most people one sailor would be enough.


guiltpuppy
(crash course raver)
07/31/05 02:30 AM
Re: This is your legacy, Dogz new [re: diamondogz74]  

Diamondogz hates all arabs and the arab world and should be censured for his egregious crimes against them. He also supports police brutality and should be stopped.

TW is about tearing down, not building up, whether it be the boundaries of good taste or the confidence of a defenseless teenager. - Marquis

Tin
(stardust savant)
07/31/05 05:15 AM
Re: This is your legacy, Dogz new [re: guiltpuppy]  

puppy, I think Weekly World News and the National Enquirer have editorial/writer openings waiting just for you.

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
07/31/05 07:17 AM
Re: This is your legacy, Dogz new [re: guiltpuppy]  

In reply to:

Diamondogz hates all arabs and the arab world and should be censured for his egregious crimes against them. He also supports police brutality and should be stopped.


I wasn't going to reply to this silly thread anymore, but I feel I have to defend myself against rubbish being spouted by GP ( whom I respect as a poster ) this post by you is complete and utter nonsense and you know it!

I do not dislike arabs at all, but what I do dislike is arabs or anyone that carries bombs to kill innocent people out of a war enviroment.

Enough already.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
07/31/05 04:51 PM
Re: This is your legacy, Dogz new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

but what I do dislike is arabs or anyone that carries bombs to kill innocent people out of a war enviroment.


Note: in order to not come off as totally racist, you might want to leave out "arabs or."

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

EJSundayModerator
(heroic dolphin)
08/01/05 10:33 AM
More Exchange On An Old Matter new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

there were stipulations attached to Dogz' return to TW, the breaching of which were to be grounds for dismissal again, and which some of us feel he has not lived up to.


And some don't. I see your point that dd74's actions are often hindering better discussions here and I sent him a friendly hint towards reoccurring bad posting habits quite a while ago. He chose not to care which I found unclever of him. So far I am not supporting a ban as I agree with those who think that dd74 has shown that he can be an acceptable and sometimes even cheerful poster.

In reply to:

schizophrenic: There are quite a few things about dogz that annoy me, many of which have been mentioned here before and I'll be damned if I'm gonna go through this whole thread to dig them up again. The point is, while I do think he has improved (somewhat), he still gets on my nerves.

Having said that, however, I can definitely say the easiest way to deal with him is to ignore him. I honestly don't read half the stuff he posts because I know it's gonna be the same thing over and over and over again. So I don't read it. It's as simple as that. Most of the threads he contributes to are incredibly dull anyway (Vacation pics? Odd eBay items?), and those that aren't are usually compensated for by the amount of interesting posters willing to throw in their own opinions (mind you, most of these people hate dogz, but that's besides the point).


My stance. Works okay.

And most of all I support Strawie's words just a little further up from here.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


Marquis
(acolyte)
08/11/05 07:20 PM
German Leniency: a Rare Bird new [re: EJSunday]  

Alright, so now that I'm fresh off a week of no cigarettes and no TW (my lungs and brain have never felt fresher), I'm back and ready to renew the struggle for banning with unbridled vigor.






Ok, not really. Instead, I've taken Auntie Prism's advice and have gone to the bozo filter as last resort. Here's hoping it works to everyone's benefit. Still, because I'm a stickler, I've got to satisfy one small bit of curiosity:

EJ, how'd you get from this:

In reply to:

I sent him a friendly hint towards reoccurring bad posting habits quite a while ago. He chose not to care which I found unclever of him.


To this:

In reply to:

So far I am not supporting a ban as I agree with those who think that dd74 has shown that he can be an acceptable and sometimes even cheerful poster.


I mean, I understand if the Mods don't feel banning is appropriate right now, I guess I'm just looking for some sort of assurance that, at least, the situation is being monitored/given some thought. Not that I'm accusing otherwise.

You know what, don't answer this post.

Literature is [the art] best suited to challenging absolutes of all kinds. Because it is in its origin the schismatic Other of the sacred (and authorless) text, so it is also the art most likely to fill our god-shaped holes

EJSundayModerator
(heroic dolphin)
08/11/05 07:57 PM
Don't Forget That We Also Produced Einstein+Marx new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

You know what, don't answer this post.


Your wish is my command.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


Cassiel
(kook)
08/14/05 08:09 PM
Re: German Leniency: a Rare Bird new [re: Marquis]  

Can't we ban the jarhead, backwoods, yee-haw, trailer-trash, in-bred, waterhead retard who posts under the name Infidel first?

See, I figure banning one imbecile's much the same as banning another - conversation improves, evolution advances, happiness ensues. And this multiple, MULTIPLE, "Gee Ain't I So Much The Smart One?", animated-happy-GIF-clappy, picture spamming bastard's been annoying me more than "Duh-Dugz" lately.

As a bonus, I'm pretty sure Infidel's a racist nazi as well so the racist nazi count'll go down, either way.

"One man's hateful rhetoric is another's entertainment." - Monkeyboy


Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
08/14/05 08:40 PM
Re: German Leniency: a Rare Bird new [re: Cassiel]  

In reply to:

As a bonus, I'm pretty sure Infidel's a racist nazi as well so the racist nazi count'll go down, either way.


If you ask me, that's a fine argument for keeping them around.

"his anus consumes him." - Rubina05 from Underculture

CharlieManson
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/27/05 09:45 AM
For fucks sake new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Ban the shit stabber NOW!


I'll slash them cold, I'll kill them dead
I'll break them gooks, I'll crack their heads
I'll slice them till they're running red
But now I've got the running gun blues


diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/27/05 11:46 AM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: CharlieManson]  

In reply to:

Ban the shit stabber NOW!


Now Charlie you arn't taking your medication properly are you? If you don't correct your dosage immediately! I shall no option but to confine you to solitary with 4 hourly jabs.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Marquis
(acolyte)
08/27/05 12:41 PM
Exterminating Angel new [re: CharlieManson]  

Today's 2 cents:

Cent the First: Two weeks into the bozo, and he's still detracting from every thread I go to.

Cent the Second: Here's a delightful excerpt from a PM I received today from a well-regarded former poster -

"Why doesn't diamonddogz just choke on his own retardedness and just die already? I can't even PERUSE the boards anymore. That's right. PERUSE."

Thanks again, Tony, for all your valuable contributions.

Literature is [the art] best suited to challenging absolutes of all kinds. Because it is in its origin the schismatic Other of the sacred (and authorless) text, so it is also the art most likely to fill our god-shaped holes

Beltene
(stardust savant)
08/27/05 01:56 PM
Re: Exterminating Angel new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

Here's a delightful excerpt from a PM I received today from a well-regarded former poster -

"Why doesn't diamonddogz just choke on his own retardedness and just die already? I can't even PERUSE the boards anymore. That's right. PERUSE."



Tell your friend that they'll die much sooner than dogz as long as they keep getting worked up about insignificant stuff.

Share Zi Love

Marquis
(acolyte)
08/27/05 02:25 PM
Reaching out to the unfortunate new [re: Beltene]  

In reply to:

Tell your friend


Beltene I agree! and? whatz more? I assure I take NO advize? from these sort of posters!

In reply to:

that they'll die much sooner than dogz



In reply to:

as long as they keep getting worked up


I cant believe? the way sum people act on here, it is like my brother says he's a fan of Mr. Bowie like me! but I know that sometimes? I may get a bit excited BUT I have to say I take this site and Mr. Bowie VERY seriosly. Beltene you're posts are OFFENSIive and my fingers? are trembling as I write this!

In reply to:

about insignificant stuff.


Oh, Kati, those are just FAB! where did you get them please?

Literature is [the art] best suited to challenging absolutes of all kinds. Because it is in its origin the schismatic Other of the sacred (and authorless) text, so it is also the art most likely to fill our god-shaped holes

Beltene
(stardust savant)
08/27/05 02:27 PM
Re: Reaching out to the unfortunate new [re: Marquis]  

Whoa! I like this Marquis better than the other Marquis.

Share Zi Love

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/27/05 02:39 PM
Charlies Angels new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

Thanks again, Tony, for all your valuable contributions.


I preferred it when you were a vindictive twat.

Although how would you know if i'm bozoed?


London Bye Ta-Ta...

White Prism
(cracked actor)
08/27/05 02:39 PM
This is Quality Control to Major Beltene new [re: Marquis]  

No! marquis, to achieve the full affect of Dogz's grammatical attrocities, it helps? to occassionally switch! the question mark with the exclamation mark?

Btw, duz your poster friend have any interesting comments on Beltene, pleaze?

In reply to:

Beltene


U R just GREEN with envy. But I like you really.

Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking when I said
Id like to smash every tooth in your head


JamieSim
(kook)
08/27/05 03:02 PM
Re: Reaching out to the unfortunate new [re: Marquis]  

"BUT I have to say I take this site VERY seriosly"

Why Nobody else does?



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/27/05 03:12 PM
Re: Reaching out to the unfortunate new [re: JamieSim]  

In reply to:

"BUT I have to say I take this site VERY seriosly"


DITTO

In reply to:

Why Nobody else does?





London Bye Ta-Ta...

Marquis
(acolyte)
08/27/05 03:38 PM
Late Registration new [re: White Prism]  

In reply to:

Btw, duz your poster friend have any interesting comments on Beltene, pleaze?


Oh! quite? BUT! I'd have? to look through my old PMs? to find them!

Literature is [the art] best suited to challenging absolutes of all kinds. Because it is in its origin the schismatic Other of the sacred (and authorless) text, so it is also the art most likely to fill our god-shaped holes

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
08/27/05 06:16 PM
Re: Exterminating Angel new [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

Two weeks into the bozo, and he's still detracting from every thread I go to.


I realized, about 5 days into my bozoing him, that his presence here is unavoidable no matter what. After that I unbozoed him simply because if all things are equal I'd rather see the occasional poster kick him in the balls. But as he is more and more becoming the standard and as it is becoming somewhat of an unpopular move to criticize his or anyone else's idiocy, I can't help but wonder why I'm still here.

"You can rest easy, ma'am. Your daughter isn't my type. You see, I'm into boys. Not all registered sex offenders are alike, you know."

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
08/27/05 06:19 PM
Oh Jesus... new [re: JamieSim]  

Has Yahoo started listing this site in its ESL directory?

"You can rest easy, ma'am. Your daughter isn't my type. You see, I'm into boys. Not all registered sex offenders are alike, you know."

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
08/27/05 06:23 PM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: diamondogz74]  



"You can rest easy, ma'am. Your daughter isn't my type. You see, I'm into boys. Not all registered sex offenders are alike, you know."

FastChanges
(crash course raver)
08/27/05 06:39 PM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Hey, that's David Gilmour!

Man said, "Now we will make God, and He will be unlike us."

Humbert
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/27/05 08:23 PM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: CharlieManson]  

Considering it must now be transparent to even the dimmest fucks who peruse the boards (ie. my friend Charlie) that dogz is an alter, can't we get rid of it? Jesus christ, you people can't possibly think it's a person, can you?

Read his recent posts. I've skimmed a lot, but having a brief look at FastChanges' poll thread and the Queen Bitch/Five Years thread in News you can tell they're becoming more argumentative/fucked up. Why didn't anyone pay attention to this?

"C'mon, let's rock 'n' roll! But let's rock 'n' roll responsibly..."

OleanderWhoosh
(kook)
08/27/05 10:02 PM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: Humbert]  

Jesus... I go away for a few months and you people are STILL talking about this??!! Get a new hobby!

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!!

Monkeyboy
(acolyte)
08/27/05 10:02 PM
I've said it before and I'll stand by it... new [re: Humbert]  

I'm not going to wager a guess as to whether or not ddgz is an alter but if he is I still say he is the most brilliantly-crafted alter known to man. Whoever is behind him - given that it isn't actually, well, him - is an evil genius and has my utmost respect.

But, the world being the cruel and mostly hopeless place that it often turns out to be, I'm more inclined to believe that ddgz is really just that stupid.

"You can rest easy, ma'am. Your daughter isn't my type. You see, I'm into boys. Not all registered sex offenders are alike, you know."

Beltene
(stardust savant)
08/27/05 10:44 PM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: OleanderWhoosh]  

Most TWers take pride in their grammar and syntax and it's always fun to see them getting obsessed with something they obviously have no control over - other people's grammar and syntax. It's one of those simple pleasures in life, like the smell of coffee and nasty farts first thing in the morning.

Share Zi Love

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
08/28/05 06:43 AM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: OleanderWhoosh]  

Would you consider extending your leave for about two or three years?

"Sodomy is a graver sin than murder. Unless there is life there can be no murder."


diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/28/05 08:33 AM
Re: I've said it before and I'll stand by it... new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

I'm not going to wager a guess as to whether or not ddgz is an alter but if he is I still say he is the most brilliantly-crafted alter known to man


I'm as real as you.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Claude
(big brother)
08/28/05 09:52 AM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

No!

----------------------
Claude

Arlequino
(cracked actor)
08/28/05 01:54 PM
Re: I've said it before and I'll stand by it... new [re: diamondogz74]  

Who cares, anyway?

The crap posters far outnumber the good ones these days.

If you don't see me before, I'll be back when the World Cup begins. Or when Twister, Marquis or WhitePrism start another list thread.

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay

Edited by Arlequino on 08/28/05 01:56 PM (server time).



ohramono
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/29/05 08:24 PM
Re: Banning Ddgz again new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Whingers should have listened to me the first time!You can all just roll around in ddgz74 dogshit having analsex orgies with Claude and Lorenzo until their Poles poke your eyes out the sockets! All of you!

NEXT!

i pink therefore i am ...

OleanderWhoosh
(kook)
08/30/05 08:50 PM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: RabbitFighter]  

Don't tempt me!

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!!

OleanderWhoosh
(kook)
08/30/05 09:02 PM
Re: For fucks sake new [re: OleanderWhoosh]  

In other words, who in hell knows. Sorry to disappoint you all.

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!!

CassiusClay
(absolute beginner )
09/03/05 10:08 AM
Re: I've said it before and I'll stand by it... new [re: diamondogz74]  

He floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee,
but nothing upsets or offends like DDZ.



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/03/05 10:44 AM
Re: I've said it before and I'll stand by it... new [re: CassiusClay]  

In reply to:

He floats like a butterfly and stings like a bee,
but nothing upsets or offends like DDZ.


And with two posts to your name you'd know.



FUCK OFF!!!


London Bye Ta-Ta...

CassiusClay
(absolute beginner )
09/03/05 10:48 AM
Re: I've said it before and I'll stand by it... new [re: diamondogz74]  

My posts may be few,
but my message is true
I spar like an elephant
and rhyme like a gnu



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/03/05 10:56 AM
Re: I've said it before and I'll stand by it... new [re: CassiusClay]  

In reply to:

I spar like an elephant
and rhyme like a gnu


And ya know what? I like you



London Bye Ta-Ta...

Persilot
(stardust savant)
09/03/05 12:01 PM
Re: I've said it before and I'll stand by it... new [re: CassiusClay]  

In reply to:

but nothing upsets or offends like DDZ.


And God knows people have tried.


"First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is."


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