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poorsoul
(you will pay mr jones)
08/30/05 08:54 AM
Moderating With One Hand new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

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Including pornography it seems. I think it just goes to show that the moderators either are never here or don't care.



Or have their hands full.

Thrush



AdamAdministrator
(cricket menace)
08/30/05 01:17 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: eraserhead]  

I will be leaving for overseas in one week from now.....so I don't actually have time for any of this. But some issues to consider:

1. Tati does not visit here whilst Sysiyo I believe has left for an undetermined period. There are arguably two positions available for additional moderators given the current system of four in total.

2. When I became administrator, Evan instructed me that I was to nominate the moderators myself rather than do so through public means. In private, I seeked the advice of three long term TWers and I am open to seeking the input of at least a small group of established users. I am not sure if I would go entirely against Evan's advice and elect moderators entirely through public vote.

3. If moderators are elected democratically/publically, how can we assure that users are not rigging the voting system - as what happened in twister's popularity contests?

4. If moderators are elected democratically/publically, then by rights we should also have terms in office.....like a period of one year, etc.

5. Who will be responsible for accurately moderating the elections? Could I come back in a month's time knowing that everything has been sorted and decided fairly? Possibly, we would need some 'election moderators' and a temporary forum set up for them to formulate the best means of running the elections.

6. In my experience, TW is an evolving beast in terms of posting styles, moderating styles, etc. The only people that would have a chance of understanding TW or the 'point' of certain posters might be long term users. Should we place the responsibility of electing new moderators in the hands of newbies for instance?

7. With points 3 and 6 in mind.....how would you feel about the moderators being elected ONLY by users that have been registered since say, 2000 or 2001?

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eraserhead
(stardust savant)
08/30/05 02:50 PM
wow new [re: Adam]  

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3. If moderators are elected democratically/publically, how can we assure that users are not rigging the voting system - as what happened in twister's popularity contests?


Very good point. I hadn't thought about this. Guess I was being a bit naive. Though, you are, yourself, offering a good solution to this problem, I think, by saying that,

a) "we would need some 'election moderators' and a temporary forum set up for them to formulate the best means of running the elections"

and

b) "moderators being elected ONLY by users that have been registered since say, 2000 or 2001"

Of course, as you say, there should be certain restrictions. Like there are in real elections in the real world. Like, you have to be a citizen of the country in order to be able to vote, and you must have lived in the country for x years. Also, you need to be of a certain age (18 here in Sweden). So, as you suggest, a similiar system could be used here. To be allowed to vote, you need to have been a member of the site (the board) for at least 4 years, and you need to be over 18 years of age (or 21 or whatever the voting age is in the US, where this election would be taking place, techinically speaking).


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If moderators are elected democratically/publically, then by rights we should also have terms in office.....like a period of one year, etc.


Yes. I think I already suggested this a couple times above, in this thread. A period of one year sounds good to me. Also, of course, in the end it will be totally up to you to decide if these elections will take place, but I'm very thankful and glad that you took the time to read and respond to this thread. And, as I have said, I don't think EJ, Ramona and Sys have been bad moderators, my whole point was that, with all the mod controversy going on this year, perhaps the only solution would be to democratically elect our moderators. Though perhaps you're right in saying that only two positions need to be filled. The question is who's the most absent one - Sys or ohramona?

Another thing: if (and I say IF) there will be elections (and campaigns, etc), I think it's important to remember that only posters who want to "run for office" can be voted for.

I think there are a number of people who would do a good job moderating the elections, like Pablo, Strawman, Emil, poor soul, White Prism, Persilot, EJ, zigbot, Marquis, etc. The only problem is that I'd want these guys to be running for office as well. On the other hand, these are all trustworthy people, so I for one wouldn't be opposed to the idea that some of these would be both moderating the elections, and, at the same time, being a nominee themselves.
And I must say the idea of a temporary forum set up to formulate the best means of running the elections is a brilliant one. Though I guess the only one capable of creating and setting up such a forum is yourself, and perhaps such a project would be very time and energy-consuming for you. But I guess all this could wait till you get back from where ever it is that you're going. I'm just surprised, and happy, that you even considered the idea.




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FastChanges
(crash course raver)
08/30/05 03:13 PM
Let's not exaggerate new [re: eraserhead]  

You make it sound as hard as electing the president of the USA...

With less than 50 active people on this board, we can all PM our votes to Adam and it will take less than 15 minutes for him to find out the results.

If you put restrictions like having been a member for more than 4 years, then it's down to 10 people and it will be even quicker.

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diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/30/05 03:19 PM
Re: Let's not exaggerate new [re: FastChanges]  

In reply to:

With less than 50 active people on this board, we can all PM our votes to Adam and it will take less than 15 minutes for him to find out the results.


A truly brilliant idea and very easy to do, Adam i'm sure would know the skullduggery of well known alters.

It's simply now a question of trust and I trust Adam 100% fair and square.


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White Prism
(cracked actor)
08/30/05 03:27 PM
In brief: new [re: eraserhead]  

I'm going to reply to all points except number one. I suppose it's up to EJ or Ohro whether they want to remain Mods for another year or whether they're gracious enough to stand for election like the rest of us, provided it goes ahead.

Point 2 re. Evan: Maybe you'd like to mention it to Evan, saying a few posters are interested in democratically elected moderators, and would he be willing to go along with that? That is, if you think he'd mind. I guess Evan should remain our God, someone powerful enough to call marshal law or veto the whole lot as he chooses.

Point 3 re. rigging: The last Mr/Miss TW competition had hardly any rigging after the first round because posters publicly stated who they voted for on the thread. If someone prefers their vote to remain anonymous they could simply state on the thread they've sent a PM to whoever's hosting the round, so that the figures tally up at the end. But in that instance, someone trustworthy would be need to host the round so that PM votes aren't fiddled. I'd prefer to keep PM voting to a minimum for this reason.

Point 4 re. term time: Open to debate of course, but I'd say one year is a good basis for that. What would be more difficult is working out how a decision is to be reached between mods once they're in power. How would they resolve conflicting policies? Anyhow, all of that is really post-election stuff.

Point 5 re. round hosting: Anyone bar the existing mods. Seriously, maybe eraserhead should do it since it was his idea. Provided he's not standing, that is. But I think eraserhead is a pretty 'neutral' guy. Those photos in the picture thread, he has an innocent face, don't you think?

Point 6 re. who elected?: I would guess that most voters would take that into consideration, that they'd want an established player who can appreciate the qualities of many different types of posting. Of course, everyone has their favourite posters, and I'd be loathed to hand over control to people who occasionally genuinely get upset by what's written here, that they might act in hot blood. On the other hand, I would be truly distraught if Claude was denied the right to stand. But yeah, as I say, I'm sure most people will consider that when voting.

Point 7 re. who votes?: Hmm, four years is a bit steep isnt it? I mean, my Crazy Diamond account was registered on 09/25/01 so technically I'd just qualify, but I would personally hesitate to put the barrier any higher than three years. Why four years anyway? To filter alter egos? Would Jesus.H. Christ be allowed to vote?

I think anyone who's put in charge of hosting the rounds perhaps should've been here that length of time, so that they can determine fairly accurately who is and who isn't an alter ego here. But besides that, I'm looking to give votes to people who have been here just two years.

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Edited by white prism on 08/30/05 03:56 PM (server time).



RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
08/30/05 03:44 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: Adam]  

The only thing I have to say is that four years is bullshit, mostly because it would leave me out of this election process and only handful of folks have a better grasp of this place than I do. I know it sounds smug but I graduated from Tom Wood's bootcamp which means I can sniff alter egos faster than Strawie can pinpoint the nearest bogus asylum seeker around. Therefore I'm superior to most of you common wankers.

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FastChanges
(crash course raver)
08/30/05 03:54 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: RabbitFighter]  

I want to vote too! 6 months is more than enough to determine who's capable and who's not.

Man said, "Now we will make God, and He will be unlike us."

White Prism
(cracked actor)
08/30/05 03:58 PM
I don't think so. new [re: FastChanges]  

But if I'm not mistaken, you thought that Shelle was an alter ego of power2charm, which was . . . unusual.

Really, I think you need to have been here a couple of years to grasp all the nuances at work. Emil would make a good impartial host, I think.

Sweetness, sweetness I was only joking when I said
Id like to smash every tooth in your head


blacktropic84
(cracked actor)
08/30/05 03:58 PM
Like being an over-conscious teen all over again new [re: White Prism]  

Since I plan on being here for quite a while, I think that I should have some say in the government. I can vote in the real world but not here?

I also just happen to think I would make a great moderator.

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