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eraserhead
(stardust savant)
08/28/05 12:36 PM
The Revolutionary Post new  

I'd like to begin this post by quoting White Prism. (I just lost 50% of my readers right there, didn't I? )


In reply to:

The Mods these days have admitted themselves that they're lazy and bureaucratic and won't do shit to improve the boards [...] While it is tempting to attack the posters whose quality of posts are sub-par, it is in fact far better to harangue the *moderators* who permit their brand of vacuous chit-chat to continue



Isn't White Prism, directly or indirectly, implying that there needs to be a re-election of moderators here on TW? A democratic election this time, since the first election was anything but democratic.

Sure, Evan pays for this site, but he never posts. Hasn't made a post in like five years, and probably won't ever post here again. He's the owner of this site only in theory. So, who, then, "owns" the TW Conversation Piece in practice? Its members, surely. The people who still come here. By all logic, they should be the ones that get to decicde who will moderate this place for them. The election of moderators should be a democratic process. In other words: let's vote.

Many TWers have already criticized the current moderators for a variety of reasons. I'm not saying I personally think Adam, ohramona, Tati, EJ and Sysiyo have been bad, but they've all been criticized by the people, and, frankly, I see no other option than to bring democracy to TW. If Evan was still visiting and taking part in this MB, the situation would be different. But since the owner is gone, we're all equals here, I'm sad to say. Of course, since Adam was given his role by Evan himself, he should remain some kind of boss, but I think that, in the name of democracy, the moderators should be elected through democratic elections. Yes, I over-use the word democracy in this post, but, on the other hand, can a word like democracy ever be over-used? Is it not the word of the day, these days?

Anyway, I think there are many good potential moderators out there, but that's not the main point. The main point is that, if we elect our own moderators, we can't really complain about them, because they were elected by us. So, naturally, there should be re-accuring elections. Perhaps a new election every year. Also, I'm sure most, if not all, of the current moderators are loved and appreciated by many members of this board, so there's a big chance they will be re-elected.

Here's a list of people I could see myself voting for:

* Pablo Picasso
* ziggfried
* Monkeyboy
* Beltene
* Marquis
* Rabbitfighter
* Dogz

Yes, I am serious. I think we are to gain by putting more "rebellious", wicked elements, or perhaps I should say individuals, in power. I think Adam's thinking, when electing his original moderators all those years ago, was a little...conservative and naive. Not stupid, not wrong. But he went with some "obvious" choices. He was playing it safe. Or, he thought he was. But what does the typical mass murderer look like? The answer is he doesn't look like the typical mass murderer. In theory, the list of moderators Adam had in mind was too good. It was too good to be true. These people were too good to be true. Now, in theory, Marquis strikes us all as a terrible choice for moderator. But in practice? I'd say not so terrible. At least that's my guess/hope/fear.

So, now, tell me this has been discussed before. I mean, I sincerely hope it has.




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Dara: For me it's pretty much an interest in David Bowie.


Beltene
(stardust savant)
08/28/05 01:16 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: eraserhead]  

I was thinking of making myself an administrator secretly but then I figured that power will corrupt me and I'll lose that fresh and fruity attitude that I pride myself for.

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White Prism
(cracked actor)
08/28/05 01:59 PM
Modswap new [re: eraserhead]  

In reply to:

Isn't White Prism, directly or indirectly, implying that there needs to be a re-election of moderators here on TW?


I was implying, first and foremost, that we needed a greater presence of the existing moderators, simply to answer routine questions and relocate threads, etc.; a job that even an overgrown primate could perform correctly. The absence of the mods has been felt harshly, particularly in the last few days, in situations where we needed an impartial voice of reason to curb the excesses of certain posters.

My attempts at engaging in a fair and sensible dialogue with the existing moderators have been ineffectual. They still visit the site regularly, they post, but they do not attempt a serious answer to important queries, nor explain actions for which they are accountable. The only response I received to my query over why they deleted certain pictures was a salvo of terse, cruel sniping from EJ Sunday, from whom I had come to expect much more.

In short, if (as all indications show) the Mods are not here, or they are unwilling to moderate, THEY SHOULD HAVE NEVER ACCEPTED THE INVITATION IN THE FIRST PLACE! They need to be replaced by people who actually want the job not simply for the position of privilege, but because they can comprehend how a message board operates and respond admirably to a position of responsibility. And, of course, they should visit the site often.

In reply to:

Also, I'm sure most, if not all, of the current moderators are loved and appreciated by many members of this board, so there's a big chance they will be re-elected.


Indeed, that would be a fair test. Of the existing Mods, I say keep Adam and Ohro. Despite occasional absences by each, Adam is popular and has shown a willingness to explain his actions in past, while Ohro proved her qualities for being the only Mod ready to impound Dogz for his erratic behaviour prior to his first ban. I firmly believe ohro's intervention was responsible for the cessation of Dogz' quintuple posting and his sudden miraculous ability to understand the workings of the apostrophe. (A fine CV if ever there was one.)

Of the other posters eraserhead has listed, Ziggfried visits on a daily basis, even though most of his posts are confined to Quotes. I understand he still reads the boards, and I'm sure many see him as a popular, level-headed individual who would only intervene when necessary due to his qualities of even-handedness and impartiality.

Marquis, also, is on-site most days, and has displayed commendable perseverance with those members who have shown, shall we say, 'posting difficulties'. He has been here many years and understands the community, and has demonstrated exactly the kind of hands-on approach in nurturing newbies that would allow fewer confrontations between the more established posters on the board and newer members. Despite being more vocal in opposition than most, I do not believe this corresponds to being more vigorous or impetuous in action; on the contrary, Marquis is a pillar of wisdom and prudence.

Monkeyboy and Rabbitfighter would also be good choices.

I'm sure you appreciate that I couldn't possibly stand because of my lengthy absences.

But thank you, eraserhead, for raising this topic for discussion. I think the idea of democratically elected mods has been mentioned in passing once before, but it hasn't been given the attention it deserves. It's good to know that some of the more sane-minded posters of the site are beginning to question the competency of those in charge in the wake of my unfortunate tussles with their elitism.


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Id like to smash every tooth in your head


diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/28/05 02:18 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: eraserhead]  

Out of curiosity, when was the last time Tati posted anything?


London Bye Ta-Ta...

FastChanges
(crash course raver)
08/28/05 02:28 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: diamondogz74]  

07/17/04 07:40 AM

Man said, "Now we will make God, and He will be unlike us."

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/28/05 03:02 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: FastChanges]  

In reply to:

07/17/04 07:40 AM


In that case unless the said moderator is ill/unwell? that is no way to behave, a moderator that hasn't even posted one post since 07/17/04 07:40 AM doesn't deserve the position IMO.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Claude
(big brother)
08/28/05 03:04 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: diamondogz74]  

I could be the perfect moderator!

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Claude

schizophrenic
(stardust savant)
08/28/05 03:52 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: Claude]  

In reply to:

I could be the perfect moderator!


Let's see, how do I respond in terms he'll understand...



Imagine the above be-(*BOOM*)

Persilot
(stardust savant)
08/28/05 06:27 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: eraserhead]  

The only moderators worth having should be those that seize power for themselves. Sod all this democracy rubbish.

"I swear I saw your face change, it didn't seem quite right."

Pablo-Picasso
(cracked actor)
08/28/05 06:29 PM
Re: The Revolutionary Post new [re: Persilot]  

Power to the posters!


Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.



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