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(crash course raver)
02/25/02 05:02 AM
Sequel Songs - The Ashes of Buddy Holly  

"Space Oddity" and "Ashes to Ashes" are perhaps the most famous sequel songs of any specific rock n roll character (Major Tom).

But it hit me today, there are other ones. In fact in 1959, Buddy Holly wrote "Peggy Sue Got Married" his own musing and update on an early character. It even had such lyrics as:

Do you recall a girl that's been in nearly every song......I just heard a rumour from a friend.....Please don't tell, no-no-no.....I don't say that it's true.

The lines do not appear precisely in this order, but they are all there. I realised this similarity today when listening to the Buddy Holly Apartment Tapes but I've never heard it reported previously.

Major Tom subsequently appeared in:

* Peter Schilling's "Major Tom (Coming Home)"

* Def Leppard's "Rocket"

* Panic On The Titanic's "Major Tom", and

* David Bowie's "Hallo Spaceboy (Pet Shop Boys Remix)" - completing his Major Tom Trilogy.

But what other famous rocknroll character's have been reprised in song?

The Music is Outside

(electric tomato)
02/25/02 05:29 AM
Re: Sequel Songs new [re: Adam]  

Okay, I guess they have to be on different albums, otherwise there are plenty of examples on 1. Ouside and the Ziggy album. Also on 1 album: Lou Reed's Caroline Says I & II.

Johnny's an american ("I'm afraid of Americans")
John I'm only dancing (two songs)
Johnny is am man ("Repetition")

But I guess it's not really the same character.

"Quoting someone is for the less inventive" - Cryx

(electric tomato)
02/25/02 09:22 AM
Re: Sequel Songs - The Ashes of Buddy Holly new [re: Adam]  

Alice Cooper had a song called "Steven" about a boy with mental problems in 1975 on the Welcome to my Nightmare album.
The same Steven is mentioned again in "Wind-up Toy" on the Hey Stoopid album of 1991.

"Are you cool with that?"
"Yes! Absolutely ice box."

(stardust savant)
02/25/02 09:31 PM
Re: Sequel Songs - The Ashes of Buddy Holly new [re: Niniwe]  

there are some dylan songs that are semi sequals. "don't need a weather man to need to know which way the wind blows" is one i can think of.

Later beatles lennon wrote some sequal-ish songs. The "walrus was paul" in glass onion and one or two others.

Neither of these are truly sequels though.


ps also of note is chubby checkers "let's twist again" and "Merry Twistmas"

02/26/02 02:43 PM
Re: Sequel Songs - The Ashes of Buddy Holly new [re: Adam]  

And Ground Control gets a namecheck in Robbie William's Rock DJ

Tell them they can laugh at me

06/05/02 02:18 AM
Yes, this has been haunting me for months new [re: Adam]  

I knew there was one from the early '60s when this thread was first posted, I just couldn't think of it. I figured it out today when I heard the sequel on the oldies station in my car with the roasted Outside sticker in the back window.


Lesley Gore's "It's My Party (And I'll Cry If I Want To)" tells the story of the narrator's boyfriend Johnny leaving her for Judy at a party.

In Gore's "Judy's Turn To Cry," the narrator reports that Johnny has left Judy and come back to her.

Sure, it's simple and not nearly as exciting as the similarity between Buddy Holly's lyrics and "Ashes To Ashes," but hey, it's a sequel.


It's better to share beer

(wild eyed peoploid)
09/09/13 11:09 AM
Re: Sequel Songs new [re: Cryx]  

I always thought that Johnny in Repetition and I'm Afraid Of Americans was the same guy.

Could "The Pretty Things Are Going To Hell" be seen as a sequel to "Pretty Things"? Or would that be more of a self referential thing like the line "now my death is more than just a sad song" in Reality?

Original KISS guitarist Ace Frehley released a 4 part instrumental saga: "Fractured Mirror", "Fractured Too", "Fractured 3" and "Fractured Quantum".

Although it was never released, in 1987 Paul McCartney wrote and recorded a song called "Return To Pepperland", a sequel to "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band".

Speaking of former Beatles, George Harrison followed up "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" in 1975 with "This Guitar Can't Keep From Crying".

Alice Cooper released a sequel to the entire album "Welcome To My Nightmare" called 'Welcome 2 My Nightmare".

Years before that, Meatloaf had already released 2 follow up albums to "Bat Out Of Hell".

While I'm not sure if there is any intentional connection here, I've always seen the Foo Fighters 'Stacked Actors" as a sequel of sorts to Bowie's "Cracked Actor" (similar titles and subject matter).

One I'm not sure if it was intentional was the Emo band Good Charlotte who had a hit with "Lifestyles Of The Rich and Famous" in which they go on about celebrities who complain about life in the public eye. As a result, they themselves became celebrities and then released a song (it think it was called "I Just Wanna Live") in which they complain about life in the public eye, with a reference to the previous song. Again, I'd imagine they threw in the reference to the previous song to make it look like they hadn't totally sold out and that they were taking the piss out of themselves and not some clever sequel to their original hit.

Chuck Berry wrote both "Johnny B. Goode" and "Bye Bye Johnny" about the same character.

Michael Nesmith released a concept album called "The Prison" which he followed up with a sequel. Both were double albums and came with a book that helped tell the story. His motivation for the sequel was that the original had been considered the worst concept album of all time (it might have been in some poll or something) and because someone or a group of people hated it so much, he decided to make a sequel.

06/15/14 05:36 AM
Re: Sequel Songs - The Ashes of Buddy Holly new [re: Adam]  

Not sure whether that counts, as she is no rock'n'roll character, but there are several songs about Pattie Boyd, without her actually getting mentioned. Eric Clapton's Wonderful Tonight as well as Layla, and George Harrison's Something.

Among all these wolves...

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