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ZiggyZane
(wild eyed peoploid)
09/20/02 12:06 PM
Life On Mars?  

I always saw this song as being about repetition and boredom. The girl's life is slowly going down the drain, and she realizes she's seen everything and fed up with life's little issues and pleads for soemthing new and better, hence "Is there life on Maaaaarrs??"

Buuut...that's obviously not it. So what's your interpretation?

"MAKING LOVE WITH HIS EGO!"

Cryx
(electric tomato)
09/20/02 12:34 PM
Re: Life On Mars? new [re: ZiggyZane]  

It's a god-awful small affair
To the girl with the mousy hair
But her mummy is yelling "No"
And her daddy has told her to go


Could be explained as follows: the girl's parents argue a lot and she's caught in the middle. She asked her mom if she could go see a movie. She says "No", so her daddy says "Yes"

OR

Her parents just don't care for her, her mother yells at her and her dad kicks her out.

But her friend is nowhere to be seen
Now she walks through her sunken dream
To the seat with the clearest view
And she's hooked to the silver screen


So she goes out with a friend, but he or she doesn't show up.
She watches the movie alone

But the film is a saddening bore
For she's lived it ten times or more
She could spit in the eyes of fools
As they ask her to focus on


Could mean she goes to the cinema a lot when there's tension at home. So she's seen the movie a couple of times.

OR

She really lived it. It's probably a sad story and she knows how it feels to be in a situation like that.

Sailors fighting in the dance hall
Oh man! Look at those cavemen go
It's the freakiest show
Take a look at the Lawman
Beating up the wrong guy


Just a scene from the movie in which there's a bar-brawl or something with sailors fighting cops.

Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show
Is there life on Mars?


A character in a movie doesn't know we are watching him from our "dimension". He doesn't know he's in a movie.
Maybe our lives are being watched by other "people" on Mars as a show. She actually feels like living in a soap or something.

It's on Amerika's tortured brow
That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow
Now the workers have struck for fame
'Cause Lennon's on sale again
See the mice in their million hordes
From Ibeza to the Norfolk Broads
Rule Britannia is out of bounds
To my mother, my dog, and clowns


This is a bit difficult to me. I think it's mainly about valuable or promising things that lose their special qualities.
Mickey Mouse is just a commercialized product and even John Lennon's poetry and music ends up in the "For Sale" rack in music-stores. What seemed very special then, is just plain now.


But the film is a saddening bore
'Cause I wrote it ten times or more
It's about to be writ again

The film that is our lives is lived again and again. And every mistake or "plot twist" will be lived again by other people.

Few, what a load of bull did I just write?




"No David, I'm no interested in 'doing a project' together, buzz off!"

StrangeDrugs
(kook)
09/20/02 01:44 PM
Re: Life On Mars? new [re: Cryx]  

Forgive me, because I KNOW this has been argued before, but I hold that it's LENIN (oh, fuck all, I don't even know that I spelled that right) not LENNON.

THE WORKERS ARE STRUCK FOR FAME
Communism, Marxism, Lenin-Marxism, all celebrate the working man. There is no rich no poor, or upper or lower class, only the working class, working for the good of the whole.

COS LENNINS ON SALE AGAIN
people are pushing these ideas again, the idea of communism is on the table, and once again, the working man would be king.

So the bloated cow that Mickey Mouse has become = the rich, the elete, the upper class. The wonderful famous mouse is now an obese charicature of himself (the rich are too rich for thier own good). So here comes Lenin's ideals, and like I said, the working class will become the only class. They wont be opressed by upper class, they'll be the famous ones.


JACCI

Richard Cory went home last night and put a bullet through his head.

zimmo
(wild eyed peoploid)
09/21/02 03:08 AM
Re: Life On Mars? new [re: StrangeDrugs]  

I think its lennon and it is about working class hero



PHOENIX
(cracked actor)
09/22/02 00:43 AM
Re: Life On Mars? new [re: StrangeDrugs]  

I was involved in a thread about Life on Mars? (I think I started it, in my very early days) and in that thread it was debated whether it was Lennon or Lenin.

I've always believed it was Lenin, because that makes sense in the context of the lyrics.

BUT...my lyric sheet in Hunky Dory says Lennon. Plus I think it was mentioned that the song was written around the time John Lennon had a new surge in popularity "lennon's on sale again", you must remember that he came from a working class background and advocated the same ideals that can be read into the context of those lyrics also. "The workers have struck for fame" - who knows, it could very well refer to Lennon selling out.

It's me, Dave. Open up man, I got the stuff
I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

WildWind
(acolyte)
09/22/02 04:58 AM
Ambiguity new [re: PHOENIX]  

I think that part of the interpretation is that very ambiguity between "Lenin" and "Lennon." It's not clear exactly to whom he is referring, he's never clarified, and the reference to either one of them would make sense. Lyric sheets don't mean dick - it's just some assistant's transcription of the words based on what they hear. You can't very well write "'Cause Lennon/Lenin's on sale again."

Anyway, "the workers have struck for fame" could be a reference to the working class: instead of pursuing an equal society where working class is adequate, they are pursuing the culture of power and "fame" that, according to Lenin, they should be trying to topple. Referring to that process as a "strike," that is, the method that labor unions use to gain equality and rights for the working class, underscores the dicotomy between working class and famous.

Or it could be, as Zimmo indicated, a nod to "Working Class Hero" and the ideals that Lennon had once espoused. Whether this is a reference to a perceived selling-out by Lennon or simply to the fact that people buy Lennon but don't "get" him is unclear. It is interesting that saying that "The workers have struck for fame" foreshadows the song Bowie would write with Lennon three years later.

Either way, that section refers to the corruption of once pure ideals, and Lenin and Lennon both held ideals for which they fought, ideas similar to each other even, it could be either one of them, and I think the ambiguity is intentional.

WW

I like beer with my air.

HaLLoSpAcEgUrL
(mortal with potential)
09/23/02 10:46 AM
Re: Life On Mars? new [re: ZiggyZane]  

in my CD booklet its written as Lenin NOT Lennon.




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