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bibiStardust
(wild eyed peoploid)
09/24/02 07:08 AM
open the dog  

the last sentence of "All the Madmen" is :
"Zane, zane, zane, Ouvrez le chien", which means open the dog, but i'm not sure of this...is it just the EMI nokk version? what bowie said about this? what do yu think of these lyrics?

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ZiggyZane
(kook)
09/24/02 09:36 AM
Re: open the dog new [re: bibiStardust]  

Well I think they've been discussed before.

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AdamModerator
(crash course raver)
09/24/02 09:57 AM
Re: open the dog new [re: bibiStardust]  

The thread that zz linked, focuses on the pronounciation but there was an earlier thread (now archived) which had some interpretations from a number of TWers.

Bibi, put that gun away.

One of the coolest interpretations was by Claude. As you might know, "All The Madmen" is another Terry song and it is set in Cane Hill Asylum (the mansion cold and gray) where he was institulionalised.

From memory, I think Claude said that "dog" in Italian translates to "Cane". So to "open the dog" is effectively opening Cane Hill and setting Terry free.

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bowiefanpeter
(acolyte)
09/24/02 12:13 PM
Re: open the dog *DELETED* new [re: bibiStardust]  

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uncle_Ruskie
(cracked actor)
09/24/02 02:46 PM
Re: open the dog new [re: Adam]  

In reply to:

Terry


Could you elaborate on who this 'Terry' is, for us uninformed souls?

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bibiStardust
(wild eyed peoploid)
09/24/02 04:34 PM
Re: open the dog new [re: Adam]  

Well Adam I won't shoot you, I swear!
Of course, i thought about terry ( DB's brother, who killed himself and who was "inzane") because of the lyrics " Here I stand, foot in hand, talking to my wall" ( i hope these are the good lyrics)....but i didn't know all these things! thanx!
I think it's quite interesting, but are you sure Bowie talks italian? i know that an interpretation is never sure, but it sems very weird... but it's bowie, so why not?

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Sysiyo
(acolyte)
09/25/02 02:34 AM
Terry Burns new [re: uncle_Ruskie]  

In reply to:

Could you elaborate on who this 'Terry' is, for us uninformed souls?


Terry Burns, Bowie's (half)brother (as bibi noted). Don't you follow anything that happends in these boards?

And bibi, bowie apparently speaks German, so why not italian? (Actually he didn't speak Italian at least at the time of the recording of Ragazza Solo, Ragazza Sola). And you do not nescessarily have to speak a language to include stuff like that into your songs.

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bibiStardust
(wild eyed peoploid)
09/25/02 06:31 AM
Re: Terry Burns new [re: Sysiyo]  

yes you're right but, if B does not speak italian and if he really wrote this because of his brother.... he's a genious!!!! of course he is, but smarter than i thought!

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globule2
(electric tomato)
09/25/02 10:02 AM
Re: Terry Burns new [re: bibiStardust]  

Cane works in latin, I believe.



EJSunday
(cracked actor)
09/25/02 10:57 AM
Latin Dogs [re: bibiStardust]  

In reply to:

if B does not speak italian and if he really wrote this because of his brother.... he's a genious!!!!


Of course he is a genius but the zane-chien-cane connection ist not that elaborate if you consider that the latin "cane" (pron. like "carneh") is very well the root of the English word "cane" (like "caine) and the French "chien", just as globule2 suggested:
cane = dog > chien.
The Latin "cane" is used (in derivations) in several languages for dog related issues, so Bowie did not have to think that hard to find his words. Still good though.


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