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gtrobster
(grinning soul)
12/16/02 08:26 AM
other Clockwork Orange refs  

Other than Droogie in Suff City, Nazz in Ziggy, and Droog/Ramona from Outside...
When else has Bowie used language/images from the Kubrick film...
Bowie has also talked about the Spiders costumes and photos are heavily influenced by the Droogie look.

Rob



centurian
(grinning soul)
12/16/02 08:44 AM
Re: other Clockwork Orange refs new [re: gtrobster]  

Is the Nazz in Ziggy a Clockwork ref.? How so? I can give a handful of other explanations for it...Art Crime and the world portrayed in 1.Outside could be Clockwork influenced...Halloween Jack could be a bit of a cool droog...

Ain't nothin' but a muffin/we got a lotta butter 2 go

gtrobster
(grinning soul)
12/16/02 09:02 AM
Re: other Clockwork Orange refs new [re: centurian]  

'He was the Nazz....' some sort of exaulted figure...doomed...

Nazz is straight out of Burgess's novel.
w/o the index from back of book i do not remember the exact meaning, though it is most likely of Russian origin.
Much of the NatSat language (the language spoke by Alex, his Droogies, Billy Goat Billy Boy and the other teen age toughs)
is Russian based according to the book's preface.

But I am with you 100% centurian....I am sure there are many possible interpretations...I am sure Bowie laughs when we come up with stuff that has nothing to do with what he meant!
Makes the whole idea of interpretation pretty funny :)

Rob



bowiefanpeter
(acolyte)
12/16/02 09:14 AM
Re: other Clockwork Orange refs new [re: gtrobster]  

The 30 minute "Love you Til Tuesday" video.

BFP



gtrobster
(grinning soul)
12/16/02 09:49 AM
love you til Tues--Clockwork Orange refs new [re: bowiefanpeter]  

what do you mean?



bowiefanpeter
(acolyte)
12/16/02 04:52 PM
Re: love you til Tues--Clockwork Orange refs new [re: gtrobster]  

My initial thought went towards the video that goes along with the old version of Space Oddity looked inspried by the movie. Then I wondered about what year was which, and now I'm thinking about a completely different Kubrick film.

I would now say that the suit in Life on mars video and the alleyway in the jean Genie video borrow from the Orange film.

BFP



WildWind
(acolyte)
12/18/02 00:31 AM
A bit of ol' Luddy new [re: gtrobster]  

Don't forget how Bowie played ol' Ludwig Van while showing the disturbing Dalí (or was it Buñuel?) film with the eye-slicing before the Diamond Dogs shows.

While it certainly is true that A Clockwork Orange is not the sole source of Beethoven's 9th, I believe he came straight out and said the film was what inspired him to use it, particularly as acompaniment to the disturbing film.

WW

What's this? Another door?

Sysiyo
(acolyte)
12/18/02 02:54 AM
Un Chien Kraftwerk new [re: WildWind]  

The eyeball-slicing movie was played before the start of Station To Station tour shows, accompanied with Kraftwerk tapes.



Emil
(cracked actor)
12/18/02 07:25 AM
I love it when i get to correct wildwind new [re: WildWind]  

What's with you today, WildWind: Sysiyo corrected half of what you said so i'll take the other half: Wendy Carlos's moog rendition of Beethoven's ninth which featured in the clockwork Orange soundtrack was played as an intro to the Ziggy Stardust shows. Haven't you listened to your Santa Monica lately?

Another Kraftwerk connection: KW used the same track as an intro to their 1981 live shows.

I did not know (or I've forgotten) that he really played KW to accompany the andalousian dog (whose direction credits go to Buñuel, but Dalí collaborated on it). Is it true? I know that they turned down his offer to open for him, though.



Sysiyo
(acolyte)
12/18/02 07:48 AM
It's indeed quite nice to correct WW... new [re: Emil]  

In reply to:

I did not know (or I've forgotten) that he really played KW to accompany the andalousian dog (whose direction credits go to Buñuel, but Dalí collaborated on it). Is it true? I know that they turned down his offer to open for him, though.


Both Man, Machine And Music and Strange Fascination confirm this, though the details wary. According to SF, Bowie never actually asked Kraftwerk to play, as he realised they would need so much equipment, and instead decided to play a tape consisting of different Kraftwerk tunes to accompany Un Chien Andalou. MMM, on the other hand claims that Bowie did ask Kraftwerk to play, but they declined, and that instead of a tape composed of different Kraftwerk material, Bowie simply played Radio-Activity.




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