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eraserhead
(stardust savant)
04/25/03 10:55 AM
Jealousy  

I've been here for many years, yet I've never ever made a poll. Why? Because I didn't think I could poll it off. ;)

Seriously, I've always thought Iggy Pop's "Jealousy" is about Bowie (maybe not the third verse, which talks about a "she", but the rest of it). It's track #4 on Iggy's 1993 album American Caesar. It goes a little something like this...

He's got a great big hit
He's in a limousine
When I see his face
Somethin' starts to freeze

He's got money for miles
His girl comes out of Vogue
*
When he acts like an ass
He's treated like a rogue

I feel it comin' it's flushin' my face
I feel it comin' jealousy baby
I feel it comin' it's boilin my blood
I feel it comin' jealousy baby
I feel it comin' flushin' my face
I feel it comin' jealousy baby
I feel it comin' boilin' my blood
I feel it comin' jealousy baby
This isn't for the first time in my life

She comes from top cheekbones
She never worried hard
You could camp an army
On her family's yard
When I look at blue blood
I want to make it mud
and tear that difference down
Rock an' roll is how

I feel it comin' it's breakin' my neck
I feel it comin' jealousy baby
I feel it comin' boilin' my blood
I feel it comin' jealousy baby
I feel it comin' boilin my blood
I feel it comin' jealousy baby
I feel it comin breakin' my neck
I feel it comin' jealousy baby
This isn 't for the first time in my life



* I'm pretty sure Iman has been in Vogue magazine numerous times, probably also on the cover a couple of times.

Okay, so, let's see if I can fuck up a simple Yes or No poll...


Do you think Iggy Pop's "Jealousy" is about Bowie?
Yes
No

View the results for this poll




"So a few years later Thunder died broke / Sable had a baby back at her folks / Me I went straight and serious too / There wasn't much else that I could do" -Iggy Pop, "Look Away"

T.J. Newton
(stardust savant)
04/25/03 01:14 PM
Re: Jealousy new [re: eraserhead]  

I've never thought about Jealousy this way, but your interpretation is very interesting. I think you convinced me

We're nothing and nothing will help us
Maybe we're lying then you better not stay
But we could be safer just for one day


96dbFreak
(stardust savant)
04/25/03 07:05 PM
Re: Jealousy new [re: T.J. Newton]  

In reply to:

I think you convinced me


Me too. And the "she" thing isn't such a stretch, either - Queen Bitch wasn't about a woman.

Stu
Friends of the truss. You’ve been a breath filled crowd tonight. You’ve been positively fly boys. We are surely on our way, upon that superhighway of information. As far as I’m concerned, you are all number one packet sniffers.


LaughingGnoome
(electric tomato)
04/25/03 09:04 PM
Re: Jealousy new [re: eraserhead]  

It is interesting, but i think he is referring to a male and a female example of something he hates/is jealous of. There is not enough information in the first to suggest anyone really, and the line...

"He's got a great big hit"

If this was 1993, then it has been a while since Bowie had a "great big hit". I think it could be Iggy's version of Teenage wildlife, ie jealous and annoyed at the "its so easy" pop stars.

The third verse surely isnt Iman, she is hardly blue blooded or has a rich familly (independantly gained) coming from Somalia and all...



-Brian-

Sysiyo
(thunder ocean)
04/26/03 01:59 AM
Re: Jealousy new [re: LaughingGnoome]  

In reply to:

If this was 1993, then it has been a while since Bowie had a "great big hit". I think it could be Iggy's version of Teenage wildlife, ie jealous and annoyed at the "its so easy" pop stars.


Jump They Say, Bowie's biggest hit since Absolute Beginners? Also, Black Tie White Noise was the first Bowie album to go number 1 since Tonight (and the last one to date).



96dbFreak
(stardust savant)
04/26/03 06:04 AM
Re: Jealousy new [re: LaughingGnoome]  

In reply to:

The third verse surely isnt Iman, she is hardly blue blooded or has a rich familly (independantly gained) coming from Somalia and all...


Au contraire, Gnoome, not everyone in Somalia lives in abject poverty - they have a middle class and a ruling class too. Iman's father was a diplomat and a former ambassador and her mother was a gynaecologist. She studied economics and political science at Nairobi University in Kenya (her family fled there after a coup in Somalia - her father having been an ambassador for the outgoing government) where she was spotted by a photographer who turned her on to modelling, she went to New York, became the face of Tia Maria in the UK and by the time she started seeing Bowie was earning $700k a year as a supermodel and had homes in NY and LA. How many ambassador's daughters do you know? (I once - well, twice actually - dated a girl in London, in 79, whose dad was, or had been, the British ambassador (or at least a diplomat, I can't remember now - maybe he had something to do with UN or something like that?) in Switzerland. Anyhoo, I was totally out of my class. Nice girl, but she and I were never going to work out. Pity.)

But you're right, the song isn't necessarily about Bowie, but it's an interesting theory.

Stu
Friends of the truss. You’ve been a breath filled crowd tonight. You’ve been positively fly boys. We are surely on our way, upon that superhighway of information. As far as I’m concerned, you are all number one packet sniffers.


eraserhead
(stardust savant)
04/26/03 06:40 AM
Re: Jealousy new [re: LaughingGnoome]  

In reply to:

The third verse surely isnt Iman


I never said that. I just said that the girl who "comes out of Vogue" (in the second verse) could be Iman.

And, as Sys points out, Bowie had some big hits in 1993. Most notebly, BTWN was a UK #1. If that's not a great big hit, then what is?

I do think it's likely though that the whole song is referring to a male and a female example of something Iggy hates/is jealous of, as you put it. I don't want Iggy to hate Bowie. Even if the song is about Bowie, I'm pretty sure they're friends now. Everything I've read these last five years imply that they're friends. Apparently, they were planning on making another album together in 1996. In 1999 they met at a TV show and joked and laughed, so, yeah, I think they're friends.


"So a few years later Thunder died broke / Sable had a baby back at her folks / Me I went straight and serious too / There wasn't much else that I could do" -Iggy Pop, "Look Away"

Edited by eraserhead on 04/26/03 06:41 AM (server time).



LaughingGnoome
(electric tomato)
04/26/03 03:35 PM
Re: Jealousy new [re: eraserhead]  

Sysiyo, i stand corrected :) I didnt know BTWN was so successful.

In reply to:

Au contraire, Gnoome, not everyone in Somalia lives in abject poverty - they have a middle class and a ruling class too. Iman's father was a diplomat and a former ambassador and her mother was a gynaecologist.


Noted.

In reply to:

I don't want Iggy to hate Bowie. Even if the song is about Bowie, I'm pretty sure they're friends now.


Im sure they are, it is also possible to be jealous of someone you love.




-Brian-

Tati_wl
(stardust savant)
04/26/03 05:42 PM
Re: Jealousy new [re: eraserhead]  

Yeah, I agree that this song may be based on David Bowie. It makes sense. And since you mentioned, I always thought Lou Reed´s Make up is about David Bowie too!

Rock and roll with lipstick on... glam era... coming out of their closets... hmmmm

Make up

Your face when sleeping is sublime
And then you open up your eyes
Then comes pancake factor number one
Eyeliner rose hips and lips gloss are such fun
You're a slick little girl
You're a slick little girl

Rouge and coloring incense and ice
Perfume and kisses oooo it's all so nice
You're a slick little girl
You're a slick little girl

Now we're comin' out
Out of our closets
Out on the streets
Yeah, we're comin' out

When you're in bed it's so wonderful
It'd be so nice to fall in love
When you get dressed I really get my fill
People say that it's impossible

Gowns lovely made out of lace
And all the things that you do to your face
You're a slick little girl
Oh, you're a slick little girl
Eyeliner, whitener, then color the eyes
Yellow and green oh what a surprise
You're a slick little girl
Oh, you're such a slick little girl

Now we're comin' out
Out of our closets
Out on the streets
Yes, we're comin' out
Yeah, we're comin' out
Yeah, we're comin' out

Tati


abe11825
(crash course raver)
04/26/03 07:59 PM
Re: Jealousy new [re: eraserhead]  

I've never heard the song, but that is a good interepretation at best.

__________________________________________
Somebody called me Sebastian
Work out a rhyme, toss me the time, lay me, you're mine
And we all know, oh yeah!



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