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vintagerock24
(absolute beginner )
08/01/03 11:01 PM
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How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound?  

I just bought 'Young Americans' and I am waiting for it to get here.. along with the rest of the bowie collection ...anyway.. I was wondering if you could all give me some insite on how the original song of 'Fame' sounds.. is it much diffrent than the oh so famous 90' remix or not really... just wondering...

" He took it all to far, but boy could he play guitar."

revidescent
(cracked actor)
08/01/03 11:47 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: vintagerock24]  

The original is much, much better than the 90 remix. I've never liked that remix anyways.

Andrée-Anne

You're such a wonderful person
But you got problems


RabbitFighter
(cracked actor)
08/02/03 10:33 AM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: revidescent]  

It´s pretty different and a bit better but nothing special. Fame was and is the weakest cut on Young Americans

I can´t hope to be the "devil may care"
Maybe i´ll settle with you all in my hair



vintagerock24
(absolute beginner )
08/02/03 12:05 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: RabbitFighter]  

Thanks guys

" He took it all to far, but boy could he play guitar."

skellaway
(electric tomato)
08/02/03 02:02 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: vintagerock24]  

I think 'Fame' is one of the strongest points of Young Americans, I prefer it much better than the song 'Young Americans'.
Fame was Bowie's first American no.1 single!

"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"

RabbitFighter
(cracked actor)
08/02/03 04:39 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: skellaway]  

In reply to:

Fame was Bowie's first American no.1 single!


Chart succes has very little to do with actual quality of the song. Bowie has released a multitude of better songs as singles than Fame with far worse chartratings.
I can understand why some people like (or even love) Fame but in my opinion it brings down the quality of YA album together with Across the universe in the end. He should have sticked to the original songselection.

I can´t hope to be the "devil may care"
Maybe i´ll settle with you all in my hair



skellaway
(electric tomato)
08/02/03 05:37 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: RabbitFighter]  

I think the album works fine, I love Fame.
I can see why some think differently though because Fame does stand out as different.
I think it's good because it's almost leading off to the next album Station to Station.

"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"

soho_beatnik
(kook)
08/02/03 07:02 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: skellaway]  

I'm with skellaway on this one. Fame is brilliant.

Miss Anders... I didn't recognize you with your clothes on.

zigbot
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/02/03 07:48 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: RabbitFighter]  

Oh, I totally disagree about Across the Universe. I love DB's version! All that "nothing, nothing, nothing!" screaming at the end is just . . . almost primal! I love it.

Zigbot

RabbitFighter
(cracked actor)
08/02/03 07:52 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: zigbot]  

I actually like Across the universe very much, it just feels out of place on YA. Sticking to the original tracklisting would have produced a much more coherent album. Well, atleast Tony Visconti agrees with me.

I can´t hope to be the "devil may care"
Maybe i´ll settle with you all in my hair



revidescent
(cracked actor)
08/02/03 07:54 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: zigbot]  

En réponse à:

Oh, I totally disagree about Across the Universe. I love DB's version! All that "nothing, nothing, nothing!" screaming at the end is just . . . almost primal! I love it.


Me too!! Hmm, I might get tomatoes thrown at me, but I prefer David's version of Accross The Universe (I still love the original by the Beatles though!). I loooooove it!

Andrée-Anne

You're such a wonderful person
But you got problems


kingsteved
(crash course raver)
08/02/03 08:06 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: revidescent]  

I love Fame-- it was a number one hit and deservedly so. That guitar riff is a killer and his vocals plus the vocal effect at the end make it one of the better songs on YA. I've never tired of the studio version of Fame, though it's a bit of a disappointment when he performs it live in my opinion.




Grey_Nihilist
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/03/03 11:40 AM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: revidescent]  

In reply to:

I might get tomatoes thrown at me, but I prefer David's version of Accross The Universe


*splat*

Aren't you the guy who hit me in the eye?

revidescent
(cracked actor)
08/03/03 12:40 PM
Re: How does 'Fame' the orginal song sound? new [re: Grey_Nihilist]  

Heh, it's not like I didn't expect it.

Andrée-Anne

You're such a wonderful person
But you got problems


RabbitFighter
(cracked actor)
08/04/03 10:00 AM
Don´t step on Wilson´s toes! new [re: revidescent]  

Just try saying that Bowie´s God only knows is better than the original and I guarantee that all hell will break loose...

I can´t hope to be the "devil may care"
Maybe i´ll settle with you all in my hair



poorsoul
(crash course raver)
08/05/03 02:09 AM
Crunch Go Wilson's Toes new [re: RabbitFighter]  

Well, now that you mention it...

Research has pierced all extremes of my sex

gtrobster
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/05/03 07:48 AM
FAME in its many incarnations new [re: poorsoul]  

I think Fame is a great tune, in spite of its popularity.
I love the basic 9th chord groove Carlos sets up.
And I have enjoyed pretty much every version he has done.
They are all pretty similar in tone and groove...some a bit more aggressive and in your face than others ('97 was kickin)
while some are a but softer with more empty space and implied groove. The original version on YA is perhaps the mellowist of the bunch.....after hearing live version for so long...i almost did not recognize it when i played the YA CD!
It has that 70s chilled drunk Al Greene soul to it.

The 78 rendition is pretty hip, and I love the 3 sax horn arrangement from the 83 SM tour.....
In spite of the commercial sound Bowie went for that year, I stand by mu opinion that the arrangemtns on that tour are among the thickest and most thought out as any of his tours.
The back up vocals are great, superb percussion, and the 3 saxaphones in a non lead role what so ever add a brassy brown richness that fill out the sound that all the distortion on a guitar cannot even compare to.

Plus Bowie's vocals are so damn strong and filled with inflection...he was resting good 78--83...

R



Schenk
(grinning soul)
08/06/03 07:09 AM
Re: FAME in its many incarnations new [re: gtrobster]  

You are so right. I also adore the fullness of the sound in the SM tour. I don't know why Bowie haven't used the horn section in his last tours, I am afraid he will never use them.
Last time he played with brass live was Heroes at the "Concert for NJ" in 2001. Do you remember? Do you like it? I think it is horny.



poorsoul
(crash course raver)
08/08/03 02:45 AM
Re: FAME in its many incarnations new [re: gtrobster]  

In reply to:

a brassy brown richness



That could be taken in an entirely different way.

Research has pierced all extremes of my sex

Isola
(grinning soul)
07/28/04 07:28 PM
Re: FAME in its many incarnations new [re: poorsoul]  

Is this the "original tracklistning"?:
1. Young Americans
2. Win
3. Facination
4. Right
5. Somebody up there likes me
6. Can you here me
7. Who can I be now?
8. It´s gonna be me

Made for a real world

pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
07/28/04 08:06 PM
Re: FAME in its many incarnations new [re: Isola]  

On the original track listing neither win nor fascination were included either, but the philly version of John I'm only Dancing was., so originally it was only going to be a seven track album.
Win and Fascination were actually finished off long after the Sigma sound sessions at Record Plant in NY, where fame and universe were recorded.

John I'm only dancing was going to be the first track on the album.

I agree with the above statement.

Isola
(grinning soul)
07/29/04 11:23 AM
Re: FAME in its many incarnations new [re: pablopicasso]  

So:
1. John I´m only dancing again
2. Young Americans
3. Right
4. Somebody up there likes me
5. Can you here me
6. Who can I be now?
7. It´s gonna be me

Made for a real world

th0mas
(acolyte)
07/31/04 10:44 AM
Re: FAME in its many incarnations new [re: Isola]  

perhaps that album makes more sense that way. the concept seems clearer. but on the other hand, i never liked the album concept. in fact all this soul stuff is boring as hell, i hardly listen to the album and i would listen even less when there would be no fame on it.
i also think the concert version of fame has more wrath than the original which is why i like it though it fits even less to the original concept.

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