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MichelleAlder
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/11/03 08:05 PM
So What Is The Story Behind Cygnet Committee?  

After hearing Lover To The Dawn, the blueprint for Cygnet Committee, I still can't figure it out. Lover To The Dawn seems to be about prostitiuion...
"They drained her very soul... etc..."
But what does that have to do with Cygnet Committee? Any ideas about what the song is about?

"They beat on the outside
And I'll stand by you
Now. Not tomorrow"

LaughingGnoome
(crash course raver)
08/12/03 02:14 AM
Re: So What Is The Story Behind Cygnet Committee? new [re: MichelleAlder]  

Yes

The answer is to do a search, in interpretations. Even though some users are carelessly posting interpretations (or similiar) on other forums (and vice versa) most of them are to be found here.

You You walk on past
Your lips cut a smile on your face
To the cage
To the cage!
She was a beauty in a cage!


th0mas
(stardust savant)
08/12/03 02:08 PM
lala, nothing to do with the topic but... new [re: LaughingGnoome]  

i searched but did not find an explaination for jap girls in synthesis. i am sure it was posted before.

"Have you tried... not being a mutant?"

LaughingGnoome
(crash course raver)
08/12/03 04:52 PM
Re: lala, nothing to do with the topic but... new [re: th0mas]  

Some threads go into archive, however Cygnet aint one of them.

You You walk on past
Your lips cut a smile on your face
To the cage
To the cage!
She was a beauty in a cage!


MichelleAlder
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/12/03 07:46 PM
Re: lala, nothing to do with the topic but... new [re: LaughingGnoome]  

Thanks... sorry to make another post about it...
Anyway is there a connection between Cygnet Committee and Memory Of A Free Festival?

"They beat on the outside
And I'll stand by you
Now. Not tomorrow"

LaughingGnoome
(crash course raver)
08/12/03 08:26 PM
Re: lala, nothing to do with the topic but... new [re: MichelleAlder]  

In reply to:

Thanks... sorry to make another post about it...
Anyway is there a connection between Cygnet Committee and Memory Of A Free Festival?


Ah your welcome :)

A relation between those two songs? I have heard there is (an anti hippy thing going on - sort of like in T-Rex's "Children of The Revolution). I havent really thought about the lyrics of Free Festival as i never really thought that highly of it, and i only like to look closely at songs which mystify and intrigue me in some way.

You You walk on past
Your lips cut a smile on your face
To the cage
To the cage!
She was a beauty in a cage!


StarGazer73
(crash course raver)
08/12/03 09:16 PM
Re: From "We Could Be Heroes" new [re: LaughingGnoome]  

On Cygnet Committee :
" It explores Bowie's bitter thoughts about the way his efforts on the behalf of the hippies - through Art Labs and simply by sitting and listening and sympathizing with their cause - had been used and abused, in his eyes.
' I gave them my life ... they drained my very soul ... I opened doors that would have blocked their way.' The lyrics pour out in molten steam, which doubtless got him into hot water with those who thought he was talking about them.'"

So there you have it.
He was angry at all the hippies he had supported, because you know he helped start up alot of art labs back in the day. He felt taken for granted.



trashtwin

LaughingGnoome
(crash course raver)
08/12/03 09:34 PM
Re: From "We Could Be Heroes" new [re: StarGazer73]  

Yes that is a good explanation of how Bowie personally dealt with hippies (and may have become disillusioned with them) in his past, but as for the song Cygnet C itself, it think its scope is a little broader than that, with specifically Bowie discussing the era through the eyes of several types of flower power 'players'.

When i listen to this glorious song, i sometimes feel like Bowie is creating a scene whereby through a seance he has summoned these individuals to speak to him from Hell. Perhaps its the constant reference to the past, and some of the religious and quasi religious language that give me that impression and the bitterness and treachery, perhaps its the vocals (for example when Bowie sings "and God was just a word..." and his voice fades out into an echo like sound, surreal, maybe its the fact that devious dishonest characters are openly boasting of their wicked deeds with imagery such as 'slit the catholic throat' 'stabbed the backs' and with brutal honesty, maybe its the 'we want to live!' mantra at the end. But it seems almost like they are being forced under interrogation to confess their (mis)deeds during the flower era. Whatever exactly are the circumstances of the confessions, its a magical powerful piece of music.

You You walk on past
Your lips cut a smile on your face
To the cage
To the cage!
She was a beauty in a cage!


White Prism
(wild eyed peoploid)
08/13/03 03:23 PM
a love machine lumbers through desolation rows new [re: LaughingGnoome]  

Yes, that's a great interpretation thread on Cygnet Committee. I'd never thought of the anti-hippy line before reading it (thinking it was simply an anti-establishment / anti-war song).

I would agree totally if it wasn't the case that the lines ''Love Is All We Need / Kick Out The Jams" didn't follow immediately on from one another. Why would Bowie include the hippy and punk slogans next to one another if they were both responsible for 'Stoning the poor'?

I'm sure it's impossible to come to an definite answer what the song's about (probably a good thing), although I'm sure you come pretty close. I wouldn't put it past Bowie's imagination that he was attempting to write a song similar to Desolation Row - another song which is almost impossible to interpret.


After all, it's only leisure time, isn't it?

poorsoul
(crash course raver)
08/13/03 11:48 PM
Re: So What Is The Story Behind Cygnet Committee? new [re: MichelleAlder]  

There once was an ugly duckling...

Research has pierced all extremes of my sex


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