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AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
03/27/04 08:01 PM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: ZiggyMercury]  

Perhaps the reason why Touchskriek suggests that the young can 'advance in all electric' is because he realises that interest drugs can be a mental stimulant for these people as well.

He sees Domberg as valuable because of his background (the world wide internet) that opens potential access to that market.

Moreover, the young that "advance in all electric" are probably capable of producing the micro transistors that were found at the scene of the crime.

So perhaps Touchshriek and Domberg are the vital link between the art world and tech world.

It should also be noted that the crime takes place outside the Museum of Modern Parts - as opposed to the Museum of Modern Art.

Ramona even speaks of an "apeman with metal parts".

She probably recalls the art/tech crime in it's embryonic stages (the murderer was one of her former associates or acolytes).


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Bramanti
(absolute beginner )
09/23/06 10:45 AM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Adam]  

Again about that anagram thing: I did some experiments wit this anagram generator:
http://www.mbhs.edu/~bconnell/cgi-bin/anagram.cgi

If you use IAMRAMONAASTONE instead of just RAMONAASTONE, you also get the word amnesia, which means a constant loss of memory. A sign combination like "A Amnesia Art Moon" is also somewhat interesting, considering the topic of the album. But perhaps I am overinterpreting that...

Edited by Bramanti on 09/23/06 10:50 AM (server time).



Bramanti
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09/29/06 08:39 PM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Bramanti]  

I recently noticed that Algeria Touchshriek also gives "Hack Horae Liturgies". Hora is latin and means time, plural horae means hours. A Hack Horae Liturgy would therefore be a religious ceremony where time itself is ripped (hacked) apart. Doesn't that remind us of the first Nathan Adler segue? - where Nathan accounts Leon of having ripped time itself with a criss criss machete. Perhaps Algeria and Leon really knew each other and Leon did this job for Algeria? (How can you rip time at all, by the way? I never understood how this accusation fit into the story.)



Mxy
(crash course raver)
09/29/06 09:42 PM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Bramanti]  

I just realized something deeply disturbing about the name "Paddy". Spin the P and you get... "daddy"! Coincidence? No. Yes. No.

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Bramanti
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09/30/06 09:35 AM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Mxy]  

What's so important about the word daddy? Do you link it to the line from "We prick you"?
Mommy can I kiss you, Daddy can I tell. Wish you well. Wish you well.
But I don't see of what relevance that would be.

By the way: Is it Mister Domberg or Mister Domburg? I have read both spellings in this thread. When I listen to the Algeria Touchshriek segue, I always think he says "Walloff Thumburgh" or something like that.

The Name Walloff Domberg or Domburg can be considered german, by the way. A Dom is a great cathedral, berg would mean mountain and burg would mean fortress. So Domberg even seems more probable to me - it would be a mountain with a cathedral built on top of it. Walloff is a very uncommon and out-of-fashion, but not impossible german first name.



Mxy
(crash course raver)
10/01/06 01:40 AM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Bramanti]  

In reply to:

What's so important about the word daddy? Do you link it to the line from "We prick you"?



Yeah.

In reply to:

By the way: Is it Mister Domberg or Mister Domburg? I have read both spellings in this thread. When I listen to the Algeria Touchshriek segue, I always think he says "Walloff Thumburgh" or something like that.

The Name Walloff Domberg or Domburg can be considered german, by the way. A Dom is a great cathedral, berg would mean mountain and burg would mean fortress. So Domberg even seems more probable to me - it would be a mountain with a cathedral built on top of it. Walloff is a very uncommon and out-of-fashion, but not impossible german first name.



No, it's Thumburgh.

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Bramanti
(mortal with potential)
10/01/06 04:28 AM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Mxy]  

In reply to:

Yeah.


In how far is that deeply disturbing?

In reply to:

No, it's Thumburgh.


Mh, I'm not sure about that.



AdamAdministrator
(cricket menace)
10/01/06 11:57 AM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Bramanti]  

In reply to:

(How can you rip time at all, by the way? I never understood how this accusation fit into the story.)


I like to think of time ripping as if not physically time travelling, then simply time referencing. Each time someone in the story, rips time, they are referencing an earlier time/crime/art. It goes back to certain things in the diary like proving that Paulus Potter's "The Young Bull" of 1647 was identicle to Monet's grain stack paintings of the 1890s. These guys are art detectives and the only way they can solve the Outside art crime is to nail the artist's inspiration or time reference. Bowie/Adler makes a shortlist of possibilities for the Outside crime including:

Viennese castrationists

The blood rituals of Nitsch

Chris Burden (and his collaborator)

Damien Hirt

Ron Athey

Rothko




Bramanti
(mortal with potential)
10/02/06 08:27 PM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Adam]  

In reply to:

I like to think of time ripping as if not physically time travelling, then simply time referencing.


Hm, maybe. But how do you do time referencing on stage with a criss criss machete? o.O



AdamAdministrator
(cricket menace)
10/03/06 04:24 AM
Re: The Relationship Between Touchshriek and Leon new [re: Bramanti]  

The 'criss criss machete' is the instrument used in Outsider Art whilst the 'stage' represents the performance aspect. So essentially, Alder is saying that Leon performs his Outsider art by referencing other time periods - just like the suspected movements of the Artiste/Minotaur. It's a pivotal moment. Adler follows it with Was this a suspect? I says to myself Woa! "Quelle courage!". The next line is the important to though, "but wait I'm getting ahead of myself" - as it quotes a line in the diary. This is just before the Outside story spins us back to 1977, the location - Kreutzberg, Berlin.




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