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PHOENIX
(stardust savant)
05/13/04 08:32 AM
Hooked on Vaseline  

We move just like tigers on vaseline - Hang onto Yourself, Bowie

He's too busy hitting the vaseline - Wow, Kate Bush

Let me just expose my ignorance for a few moments. When I first heard Hang onto Yourself I assumed the above line meant that they danced so crazy that they seemed like a couple of wild animals slipping around on a floor covered with the vaseline you buy in the shops.

Time has made me wonder, for again and again I hear vaseline mentioned as if it is a veiled reference to something else.

All of you probably know what it is. One of those things that has escaped everyone but me up to this point in my life. But can someone help me out here? I've tried thinking of rhyming slang, to no avail. Is it alcohol? Hitting the bottle is a good guess considering the reference to self-important actors in 'Wow'.

Speed? 'We dance like two tigers on speed'?

What is meant by vaseline? Besides the smelly stuff you might buy in a chemist.

"I lost my virginity in Vancouver a month ago, the show was excellent but I had crappy seats."

strangeDivine
(stardust savant)
05/13/04 12:35 PM
Sigfried and Roy new [re: PHOENIX]  

It's about beastiality.

Do as thou fat ass wilt.



dukewhite
(stealing for that one good rush)
05/13/04 01:33 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: PHOENIX]  

This might help?

I'll be seeing YOU in New York, Detroit, Philadelphia, Boston, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington DC, Moline, Wantagh, and Holmdel. So dress sharp.

SugarPlumFairy
(leasing the moon)
05/13/04 05:40 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: PHOENIX]  

In reply to:

We move just like tigers on vaseline


Gosh. I thought there was only one way to understand this. Ditto for the Kate lyric.

I think fandom has eaten me whole. What is vague innuendo to others is simply reality to me. Just shoot me please.

Phoenix, I admire your innocence. Hold on to it.

Nobody buys matching purple suits unless they are in love.

hangontoyourself
(kook)
05/14/04 05:49 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: SugarPlumFairy]  

me too - i've stopped wondering. is that bad??? do i need an answer to that question? no.

If you think we're gonna make it...
http://groups.msn.com/keithism

zigbot
(crash course raver)
05/14/04 07:21 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: PHOENIX]  

I always thought--and still do--that references to "Vaseline," at least in the 70s, were to its (then common) use as a sexual lubricant.

I;m not familiar with the Kate Bush song, but I would assume she means the person was too busy getting laid all the time. To those who know the song, am I off here?

zigbot

pablopicasso
(crash course raver)
05/14/04 07:47 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: zigbot]  

Spot on, if I remember right WOW subject matter is on the same lines as Cracked actor

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.

Edited by pablopicasso on 05/15/04 07:31 AM (server time).



Earthling on Fire
(electric tomato)
05/15/04 03:27 AM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: zigbot]  

In reply to:

I always thought--and still do--that references to "Vaseline," at least in the 70s, were to its (then common) use as a sexual lubricant.


Yes, I've always seen it that way, too, and more precisely to gay sex, which requires more lubrication, or so I'm told.
This line is part of a network of references on the Ziggy album:
"Put your ray gun to my head."
"Make me jump into the air."
"The church of man, love, is such a holy place to be"
"He was the nazz with God-given ass."

Wear your wound with honour.

PHOENIX
(stardust savant)
05/15/04 08:21 AM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: zigbot]  

I must say the possibility to anal sex hadn't escaped me. The only reason I doubted it was the wording in the two quotes. I would have thought they would have been more like :

We move just like tigers with vaseline

and

He's too busy using the vaseline

The use of the words on and hitting just made it seem more like drug use than sexual lubrication, although considering the subject matter of TRAFOZSATSFM it really does seem likely to be sexual. I'm just not 100% convinced. If it was/is common to use the term vaseline when making an inference to anal sex then I probably would be.

"I lost my virginity in Vancouver a month ago, the show was excellent but I had crappy seats."

Earthling on Fire
(electric tomato)
05/15/04 08:51 AM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: PHOENIX]  

In reply to:

If it was/is common to use the term vaseline when making an inference to anal sex...


Well, it may not be any more, but it certainly used to be.
It seems to me that depending on what meaning is attached to "on", "Tigers on vaseline" may be very close in meaning to "Tigers with vaseline," with, as you note, a hint of drug use.

Wear your wound with honour.

AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
05/15/04 10:44 AM
Urban Dictionary new [re: Earthling on Fire]  

In reply to:

"He was the nazz with God-given ass."


That is tremendous Bowie is quoted in the dictionary, abeit an urban one.



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Shoes
(wild eyed peoploid)
06/05/04 08:22 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: Earthling on Fire]  

In reply to:

Well, it may not be any more, but it certainly used to be.



i never thort of it as anal sex, but wanking, guys talk about it all the time, db joking about visconti not havin a gf and doing it at one stage; and to me vaseline's been overtaken by oil : hence the reference in fall dogs bombs the moon : 'oil on my hands, wot a dog.' i mean gawd, everybody's human



Earthling on Fire
(electric tomato)
06/06/04 03:08 AM
Sordid details following... new [re: Shoes]  

Well, that's you Americans. Visconti is American. Bowie is English. English people are not systematically circumcized and you generally don't need lubrication to masturbate when you are not circumcized. In Europe, lubrication more often than not means anal sex.

Wear your wound with honour.

strangeDivine
(stardust savant)
06/08/04 09:58 PM
disfigura new [re: Earthling on Fire]  

not necessarily. merry old england was still on the bandwagon until the late 1940s.

One may dream of a culture where everyone bursts into laughter when someone says: this is true, this is real.

Eager_Alto
(mortal with potential)
06/15/04 11:20 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: PHOENIX]  

I don't know the amswer to this information about vaseline but David Byrne talks about it too:

Come preacherman, shoot me with your poisoned arrow
But I dance on Vaseline
And I'm tripping out working on a revolution
You don't let the music in

I can't determine if it's a reference to a sex lubricant here. Doesn't seem to be.



Eager_Alto
(mortal with potential)
06/15/04 11:25 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: PHOENIX]  

We move just like tigers on vaseline - Hang onto Yourself, Bowie

Vaseline is also used as a lubricant for solo sexual activities if you know what I mean, not just for anal sex. So maybe tigers on vaseline is meaning like the fingers sliding up and down the shaft of a penis looks like tiger stripes. Seriously. Look real close. And doesn't it seem that Hang on to Yourself sounds more like masturbation than like anal sex?



strangeDivine
(stardust savant)
06/16/04 01:09 AM
The verdict is in new [re: Eager_Alto]  

In reply to:

So maybe tigers on vaseline is meaning like the fingers sliding up and down the shaft of a penis looks like tiger stripes.


You definitely deserve creativity points for that ridiculous observation.

Can the world be as sad as it seems?

Earthling on Fire
(electric tomato)
06/16/04 03:34 AM
Re: disfigura new [re: strangeDivine]  

In reply to:

merry old england was still on the bandwagon until the late 1940s.


According to this webpage, a little under a third of British men in Bowie's age bracket are circumcized. That's not a majority, although I admit it's a fairly large group.

Wear your wound with honour.

strangeDivine
(stardust savant)
06/16/04 01:07 PM
Life can be so nice new [re: Earthling on Fire]  

That rate is not as high as I had supposed, but, as you say, it's still a significant figure. It's amazing what the human animal is capable of doing to even its own progeny...

Then eventually it was morning.

Eager_Alto
(mortal with potential)
06/16/04 01:50 PM
Re: The verdict is in new [re: strangeDivine]  

Thank you.



pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
06/16/04 01:53 PM
Re: Life can be so bad new [re: strangeDivine]  

What is even worse though, is female circumscion which is practised in some cultures.

Believe everything I say,especially the lies.



Earthling on Fire
(electric tomato)
06/16/04 03:25 PM
Re: Life can be so bad new [re: pablopicasso]  

It's called excision, it's the removal of the clitoris, sometimes labia (inner, sometimes even outer). Often performed with unsterilized tools and no anaesthetic. Makes circumcision look like a picnic, firmly though I disapprove of it (when performed for non-medical purposes, that is).

Wear your wound with honour.
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Make it a Brisbane Wriggly Crunchie.

MichelleAlder
(kook)
06/16/04 07:40 PM
Re: Life can be so bad new [re: Earthling on Fire]  

So the alien chasing me in my nightmares is going to be carrying things to do this now...

Thanks alot Earthling.. -_-

"They beat on the outside
And I'll stand by you
Now. Not tomorrow"

PHOENIX
(stardust savant)
06/17/04 11:13 PM
Re: Hooked on Vaseline new [re: Eager_Alto]  

Perhaps I should be careful answering to a user with the name Eager_Alto (it's akin to talking to someone with the name Fayke U-Zer) but anyway...

In reply to:

Come preacherman, shoot me with your poisoned arrow
But I dance on Vaseline
And I'm tripping out working on a revolution
You don't let the music in


If I knew that before, I would have leant even further towards the 'vaseline as a slang for a drug' opinion.

A thought provoking thing mentioned in this thread however (well, thought provoking to me, and probably obvious to everyone else) is that 'Hang On To Yourself' is about masturbation. I mean :

If you think we're gonna make it, you better hang on to yourself

ie - If you think we're going to fuck you got another thing coming, you better go masturbate.

However the rest of the song is more about how the characters DO have sex :

We can't dance, don't talk much, just ball and play
She wants my honey not my money

The answer as far as I'm concerned is who she is.

You're the blessed...
She's a tongue twisting storm
She's a funky-thigh collector - (a what??)
We've really got a good thing going

Who or what is she? A man? Ziggy's left hand? (Praying to the light machine/Layin on electric dreams/comes out better on a stolen guitar). I'm more confused than when I started.

And if you complain once more, you'll meet an army of wet chickens.


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