DO you think he may be refering to the millineium's "000"

"nothing will change, evreything will change"

life will always be predictably unpredictable

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It's a good idea Brian, but I always imagined him to be talking about the state of the world etc... how hopeless it all seems with constant wars/killings and it all changing with different leaders but still being the same whatever.


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I though it was like a zen koan, myself. YingYang, opposite stuff. there is always something in nothing and vice versa, blah, blah.. Catch my drift?

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It's a good idea Brian, but I always imagined him to be talking about the state of the world etc... how hopeless it all seems with constant wars/killings and it all changing with different leaders but still being the same whatever.

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I've always suspected that. Asking the world to "burn all that we are" and "rise together through these clouds".

Thinking about it, what does "heat" represent in the song? If, say, the song was about a country in famine the helpless have to "look for the cars or signs of life where the heat goes". Could heat mean the help they recieve, or perhaps their luck? It's as if the poor and standing, waiting, "crawling under the bracken" just waiting for aid to arrive. And then "the heat goes". It's dark again.

Bowie thinks we should be scared as a world. "In your fear of what we have become" suggests that he thinks we think this too.





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"Hating Bowie in 1997 means hating everything overblown, theatrical, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual and jarringly progressive in the past 25 years of pop. In other words, everything great about pop. It also means hating yourself."

I though it was like a zen koan, myself

Which was my impression as well.
In a 70s interview, David once talked about the two only possible pilosophies "Everythings' happening" and "Nothing's happening". This seems to be all along the same line.

Remember that "change is the only constant" and "nothing lasts forever is an everlasting truth".

/Carsten

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where the heat goes".

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Maybe with the word heat he means where the hub of the action is at that time? as you mentioned the aid, It's a very deep song thats for sure, no such thing as ordinary lyrics with Bowie and that over the years is what has kept me so fascinated and educated me very well, I tell you James if Mr Bowie had been a teacher? the queue to join his class would be never ending.


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For me it's about the end of religion in the western world. Bowie's not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing. He's wondering what the next step in mankind's evolution could be. The clouds we have to rise above are the clouds of ignorance that religion puts before our eyes. Today with our great scientific knowledge we know that holy books are a bunch of fairytales, but they provide a morality that's not to be found anywhere else.

On the whole I understand it as: religions are dead, but can we live without them?

Don't forget it's the opening track of an album called "Heathen".

Heathen
1. One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.
2. One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened.

Love is the answer, but while you're waiting for the answer, sex raises some pretty interesting questions.

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For me it's about the end of religion in the western world. Bowie's not sure if it's a good thing or a bad thing. He's wondering what the next step in mankind's evolution could be. The clouds we have to rise above are the clouds of ignorance that religion puts before our eyes. Today with our great scientific knowledge we know that holy books are a bunch of fairytales, but they provide a morality that's not to be found anywhere else.

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hence the title Sunday I guess. makes sense

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Well, you are all aware that he is a teacher. Literally. He has his Elementary Education degree from a college in Ohio.

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Well, you are all aware that he is a teacher. Literally. He has his Elementary Education degree from a college in Ohio.

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No I didn't know that Jamie, but thanks for letting us know


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