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Beltene
(acolyte)
05/04/06 01:24 PM
And the guns shot above our heads...  

Hi. I was wondering if anyone ever thought that Heroes might be written about the last days of Hitler and Eva Braun. Perhaps Bowie came up with the rumour that it was written about Tony Visconti because he didn't want to lose his Jewish fanbase. (I hope I'm not losing my Jewish fanbase with this thread)

After all, it is one thing being caught with a copy of Mein Kampf and a completely different thing when you write a romantic song about the last days of hitler. Everybody should read Mein Kampf once so that we know how to recognize and counteract crazies like hitler in the future. The question is, how many people would be comfortable to admit that they saw one of the world's biggest monsters as a sensitive man who is capable of loving another human being? I did so after seeing a private film shot by Eva and after reading a quote by Salvador Dali who saw him as "a masochist who wanted to start a war so he can lose it in a heroic manner". I did an extensive research and since I didn't find any hard core evidence, I concluded that hitler was not a sensitive man and what I saw in these videos was just pretense. I still shared my thoughts with a close, supersensitive friend who got very sad and disappointed at me for ever letting this thought cross my mind.

I read this in another thread about "Heroes":

In reply to:

'Heroes' was inspired by Bowie watching Tony Visconti and backup singer Antonia Maass, who were having an affair at the time, meet in secret at The Berlin Wall, as well as from a painting in a Berlin museum with a similair theme.


This doesn't make much sense because at the time these two love birds were in Berlin, there were no guns shooting above their heads.

Also, why is it that the characters are "heroes" for just one day? Why not two or three days? Did Visconti quit drinking for just one day or what?

Hitler and Eva Braun were married for one day before they killed themselves.


My ass belongs on your face.

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
05/04/06 01:30 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: Beltene]  

Your theory is interesting Beltene and it's news to me it might have been about Tony Visconti and backup singer Antonia Maass, the story from Bowie's lips...is that it was about two alcoholic lovers who met everyday at the wall, I know nothing else regarding this song.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Pablo-Picasso
(acolyte)
05/04/06 01:36 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: diamondogz74]  

Heroes

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Beltene
(acolyte)
05/04/06 01:36 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: diamondogz74]  

Hitler drank cocaine drops as stated in the book The Last Days Of Hitler and Eva often wrote him mean letters when he was away from her for too long.

My ass belongs on your face.

kalamazoo
(wild eyed peoploid)
05/04/06 01:45 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: Beltene]  

In reply to:

Also, why is it that the characters are "heroes" for just one day? Why not two or three days? Did Visconti quit drinking for just one day or what?

Hitler and Eva Braun were married for one day before they killed themselves.


Your theory makes a lot of sense!!!
Who knows what Bowie thought, after all, a year earlier he said that fascism was what England needed.
P.



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
05/04/06 01:48 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

Thank you very much Alan, never seen that page before? It's firmly ensconced into my favs now.

Once again with Bowie, who knows? but I reckon the Otto Mueller theory to be my decider, It just makes more sense Bowiewize with my mind.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Mxy
(electric tomato)
05/04/06 02:11 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: diamondogz74]  

I hope Pablo doesn't mind me answering the question dogz posed for him.

In reply to:

Thank you very much Alan, never seen that page before?



No, you hadn't seen that page before.

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Pablo-Picasso
(acolyte)
05/04/06 02:13 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: Mxy]  

Don't do half a job, what about this one?

"Once again with Bowie, who knows? "

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Mxy
(electric tomato)
05/04/06 02:22 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

I think dogz was correctly using the term "who knows?" there (or at least coming pretty close to it). Whether he did it intentionally or not is a different matter, one that would require an interpration topic of its own...

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Vanessa_Y
(crash course raver)
05/04/06 02:40 PM
Re: And the guns shot above our heads... new [re: Beltene]  

I dunno. I am not saying Hitler was a saint, obviously he was not, but the fact that he was a monster..I think MAYBe even the worst of us may have the ability to care for someone else in thier own strange way.

"I suppose if I were a lot older--like 40 or 50--I'd be a wonderful sugar daddy to some little queen down in Kensington. I'd have a houseboy named Richard to order around."DB, 1976





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