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Dara
(acolyte)
04/18/06 09:43 AM
Mummy tapes new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Maybe it's just me, I'm generally not a fan of live music anyways.



It's me too.

Regardless of how one feels about live music, and I accept there are certain attractions (they're just not attractive to me is all), the fact is that live recordings are recordings but they are not live. They lose all the advantages of being live, but worse, convention dictates that the advantages of recording such as the ability to mix different takes, or clean things up in the studio, are not acceptable. So you end up with a half-assed beast that is neither one thing nor the other.

Live recordings is really a misnomer when you think about it. They're about as live as a mummy is.

Medium is everything here. Bowie is a very theatrical performer, and this is a huge part of his charisma and attraction in person, and theatre can be a great experience, but there are few things shitter on TV than a filmed play. The same problem applies: you've lost the intimacy and immediacy, and you're not allowed to use the many things that make film and TV great. Same thing with watching sport on TV: it really only works if it's live rather than a repeat or on a delay. Except boxing, because violence always work on TV.

Slan libh,

Dara

"Irish as well, you see. Home of God himself" - Noel Gallagher on U2

ghostlove
(crash course raver)
04/18/06 01:12 PM
hallo, daraboy new [re: Dara]  

Oh, how I disagree with you. While having theatrics being a part of some songs gives it more appeal, it isn't the case with a lot that he has done, especially the latter part of his career. I even posted about this before. More recently, listen to the reaction from the fans as Bowie steps up to do 'Life on Mars' from the Fashion Rocks show. By that standard, the fan reaction is something a live version lacks and even gives you the thrill of hysteria you can't get from studio versions. The energy feeds his performance as you can see from the fabulous Arcade Fire collaboration he did at the same show.

To go further in time, I think his Saturday Night Live version of 'Man Who Sold the World' with Klaus Nomi is a great representation at what you can do with a one-off live performance. Though the theatrics of that one is great in its own right, if you were to hear it without the visual, you will still be captured by a breathtaking performance.

So, yeah, I disagree. Anyway, don't you think 'Hallo, Spaceboy' is a testament to a better live version than studio?




Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/18/06 04:47 PM
Re: Netflix review. new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Can you provide us with your review please?


No. Fuck you.

Why?

BWW uses the word "nigger" liberally

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
04/19/06 08:13 AM
Re: Netflix review. new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Why?


Because I'm very interested in reading it, why are you so paranoid?


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Dara
(acolyte)
04/19/06 08:33 AM
Ear wax will cover you new [re: ghostlove]  

In reply to:

Anyway, don't you think 'Hallo, Spaceboy' is a testament to a better live version than studio?



I'm afraid not. Great live, but I never heard a live recording of it I prefer listening to than the studio version.

Slan leat,

Dara

"Oisin, it's time to go the bed. We're all going"
"I'm not tired. I'm impressive!"


Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/19/06 08:33 AM
Re: Netflix review. new [re: diamondogz74]  

I've given you the main points of it. Fuck off.

BWW uses the word "nigger" liberally

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
04/19/06 09:39 AM
Re: Netflix review. new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In that case, I'll find it for myself


London Bye Ta-Ta...

egrorian
(grinning soul)
04/19/06 04:41 PM
Re: Hateable Bowie albums? new [re: Zella]  

"I'm surprised not more people listed Never Let Me Down. That was a pathetic album. I refused to ever purchase it. It was the only time since 1972 that I was embarassed to be a Bowie fan. Tonight was also disapointing. I think db was going through some serious creative blockage."

Actually, back in 1987 I and my Bowie fan friends regarded NLMD as a return to form! I recall hearing Beat of Your Drum on the radio prior the the album's release and thinking "this is better!", Time Will Crawl was just great and even Bowie's image was a welcome move away from his "all so safe" look of then recent times.

Funny how we overlooked a number of decidely mediocre (at best!) tracks on side 2 but, even today, I still enjoy most of side one (Day In Day Out least). With the benefit of hindsight it can hardly be called a great album but overall I still don't consider it the abomination that some fans and critics do.





Pablo-Picasso
(acolyte)
04/19/06 04:48 PM
Re: Hateable Bowie albums? new [re: egrorian]  

Agree with you 100% there, I remember the optimism when that record came out too.

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Monkeyboy
(band intro)
04/19/06 07:56 PM
Re: Netflix review. new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

In that case, I'll find it for myself


There's no need. I've told you what it basically said. How far up everyone's asses do you need to be before it's enough for you?

BWW uses the word "nigger" liberally


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