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gus_
(mortal with potential)
01/20/04 09:50 AM
Re: Not A Chart Show [re: gus_]  

LOL! last night he played 7 Reality songs, so that throws out my argument about his new songs. :-)

but, that argument used to hold true. LOL!



Si_rocks
(kook)
01/20/04 09:54 AM
Not Defying [re: eraserhead]  

Bowie isn't defying any expectations, some could argue that Hallo Spaceboy and The Motel are not as popular as the rest of his back catalogue, but they should great live and therefore will make people stand up and listen. Nonetheless, Bowie does not need (or I presume, want) to defy any expectations. Why would he?

His last three albums have been good, made him more commercially viable and he's happy in what he's doing. Therefore, while it's not defying any expectations he's on a superb and hugely enjoyable tour. I'd rather see him like this now than pretending to be 'happening' and doing something unexpected.

Who needs talent these days if you make out with your friend on stage? - Rabbitfighter

EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
01/20/04 10:54 AM
Minstrel In The Gallery [re: eraserhead]  

In reply to:

So, in Dara's and EJ's opinion, those tours weren't "playing to the gallery tours" either?


I am not so sure if you can easily devide Bowie's audiences into gallery and not. What am I then? I never liked "The Motel" much but was overjoyed when I got "A New Carrer In A New Town". Is the re-appearance of "Five Years" a play for the gallery or a feast for the true fan - or must I only praise "Fantastic Voyage" when "All The Young Dudes" was tremendous as well? Where do we put "Hallo Spaceboy" and "I Am Afraid Of Americans"? And what's more gallery?Heathen tour`s "Alabama Song" or this time's "TMWSTW"?

In the end I would simply say Bowie is doing his best to enjoy a crowd pretty diverse in what they want from him - plus he has a few musical statements he seems to be doing for himself and the band. Fine by me. And few of his other tours were different. From those "Sound & Vision" was the disaster on one end, "Outside/Earthling" the adventure on the other. Both concepts would never have brought him back to where he is now again: A major rock star who still has something to say and play, filling major venues world wide. Some may not like that but I think he is pretty okay with that. And so am I.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


dice
(every nation's refugee)
01/20/04 01:32 PM
Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour? [re: CAwesome]  

In reply to:

He wants to show the absolute best parts of his repotoire (sp?)


then why doesn't he?!

performance is an artform too, you know. and being boring is not good art

i can understand a lack of variety if the production is more theatrical, as with diamond dogs, glass spider, etc. but not this time around, i'm afraid

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SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
01/20/04 03:20 PM
Re: Sound revisionism [re: Dara]  

I'm overjoyed by the fact that eraserhead agreed with me.

In reply to:

inclusion of two Tonight and three Let's Dance songs.


OK, seems I haven't been following the news. What is the second Tonight number (Blue Jean, presumably), and when was it played?

And should I have high hopes that he'll play Time will Crawl on the next tour?

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Claude
(big brother)
01/20/04 04:17 PM
Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour? [re: eraserhead]  

"Reality Tour" is a wonderful show...... but he have to pay his Bowie Bonds!

___________________
Claude

eraserhead
(stardust savant)
01/20/04 06:21 PM
Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour? [re: Claude]  

In reply to:

"Reality Tour" is a wonderful show...... but he have to pay his Bowie Bonds!


Best comment so far. You summed it up very well, Claude.



"I speak what yah weak mind lacks" -Missy Elliott


SoulLoveChild
(stardust savant)
01/20/04 06:22 PM
Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T [re: dice]  

In reply to:

performance is an artform too, you know. and being boring is not good art

i can understand a lack of variety if the production is more theatrical, as with diamond dogs, glass spider, etc. but not this time around, i'm afraid


What part of the setlist is not good variety? I think the span of albums covered and songs is great for a world tour. Jeez, he could be playing the ChangesOneBowie album from start to end inbetween the whole Reality album, but he's not.

Bowie himself said he KNOWS the hardcore fans (of which there actually are very few of us really, compared to everyone who will see him this tour) don't want to hear China Girl again. And then he said Stuff them, I LOVE playing China Girl, it's my song and I'll play it until I get sick of it.

Anyways, Dice, which show did you attend to conclude that this tour is so boring?

Bowie in Australia February 2004
the wait is almost over

pablopicasso
(wild eyed peoploid)
01/20/04 06:58 PM
Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T [re: SoulLoveChild]  

I haven't seen the reality tour, i have heard some boots and I think the setlist is great, remember most people will be seeing this concert once, so variety between nights is not that big an issue, but he does seem to be enjoying himself and as has been mentioned this is a WORLD tour so he is playing to a lot of people who hasn't seen him for years, so why not "play to the gallery " they are paying to see him, and there does seem to be lots of obscure songs, and just cos comething was a single don't mean it aint obscure there are probably lots of people who haven't even heard of "All the young dudes".
You can please some of the people all of the time,
You can please all of the people some of the time,
but you cannot please all the people all the time.


She's so swishy in her satin and tat,
and her frock coat and bippety boppety hat

dice
(every nation's refugee)
01/20/04 07:20 PM
Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T [re: SoulLoveChild]  

i didn't have to attend a show to know it was boring

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