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pablopicasso
(electric tomato)
03/18/04 04:15 PM
Re: Morrissey: Bowie was only relevant by accident new [re: hangontoyourself]  

Morrisset?????

Isn't that ironic, don't you think?

I believe in the Power of Good
I Believe in the State of Love
I Will Fight For the Right to be Right
I Will Kill for the Good of the Fight for the Right to be Right


CAwesome
(kook)
03/18/04 04:23 PM
Re: Morrissey: Bowie was only relevant by accident new [re: pablopicasso]  

No, the irony is a person singing about irony that doesn't sing about one thing that's actually ironic.

I'll be appearing LIVE in Toronto April 1st. Sure, it's a David Bowie show but you're all coming to see me. More importantly, you're coming to see me in my awesome new pants.

EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
03/18/04 04:59 PM
It's Like Rajjiiijajane new [re: CAwesome]  

In reply to:

the irony is a person singing about irony that doesn't sing about one thing that's actually ironic.


I had a nice little exchange about exactly that point and that super-dumb song quite a while ago in this thread with an ex-TWer under the name of thedeathcard82. Have a look at our exchange, if you like.

And I want to believe
In the madness that calls 'now'


pablopicasso
(electric tomato)
03/18/04 05:18 PM
Re: It's Like Rajjiiijajane new [re: EJSunday]  

Wow there was actually a post from Tatu_wi or whatever in that post, the first i have ever seen as a relative newcomer, if there are any mostakes in this message it is because i have just had a bottle of wone.

I believe in the Power of Good
I Believe in the State of Love
I Will Fight For the Right to be Right
I Will Kill for the Good of the Fight for the Right to be Right


bowiefanpeter
(acolyte)
03/18/04 09:26 PM
Re: It's Like Rajjiiijajane new [re: pablopicasso]  

Does anybody have any pictures of both Morrissey and Bowie together?

I think Bowie should "respond" to M by working with Johnny Marr.

BFP



lazender
(grinning soul)
03/18/04 09:45 PM
Re: Morrissey: Bowie was only relevant by accident new [re: bulletprooffaces]  

i THINK What morrissey meant by saying BOWIE was only
"relevent by accident" , is BOWIE would go in to the studio and just create , and he is always best when he is unafraid and trying ideas that he is not sure will happen ,but he DOES know that the process in getting there will unveil interesting , original creative ,cutting edge material.
example: BERLIN TRILOGY, OUTSIDE,DIAMOND DOGS .
(write a poem without thinking to much , cut out each sentence & rearange them, u may not know how it will turn out , but some very cool ideas happen that you may not have come about normally)
at least WE can always count on a bad bowie album being as good as most earthling artist's ! kinda like bad sex, its still better then no sex.........


"today i was an evil one"

poorsoul
(acolyte)
03/18/04 09:52 PM
Minister new [re: Dara]  

In reply to:

In the ageist ambiance of rock, relevance tends to be measured in the ongoing impact of an artist on youth. If that's the yardstick, then there's little doubt in my mind that Bowie's relevance outstrips that of Morrissey by leagues.



There's no doubt that Bowie's work in the 70s has had a huge impact in shaping numerous musical acts but what do you think the impact of his current work will be in, say, ten years' time? How many bands are going to be inspired by the sounds of 'hours...' or Reality?

In reply to:

I'll never forget the shock of talking to a group of teenagers a few years ago (friends of my son) about music, when I mentioned Morrissey and my son was the only one who had even heard of him!



Nice story but a bit beside the point. Still, at least they weren't listening to Linkin Park. But are you sure they have 6000 hours of music? Minutes, perhaps, or megabytes but surely not hours (unless you're talking collectively, in which case there's bound to be a lot of doubling anyway.

DIY

th0mas
(acolyte)
03/19/04 01:12 PM
Re: Minister new [re: poorsoul]  

hours... did not really have any impact but certainly went in a direction music went anyway - reduction. using the new technics to create less. which i think got a movement many kinds of art took at that time.
not that bowie would have influenced anybody with his album, but he headed towards the right direction. and unlike reality he did this before the trend really hit the mainstream.

shit, i went completly off-topic, once again... sorry.
next time i have such a glourious idea, i will start a new hours... thread, promised!

"Have you tried... not being a mutant?"

Edited by th0mas on 03/19/04 01:22 PM (server time).



Strawman
(stardust savant)
03/19/04 03:39 PM
Want to...But I can't... new [re: tonyinsf]  

I could never say anything derogatory about Morrissey.

He made me a pile of money in the late eighties.



bowiefanpeter
(acolyte)
03/20/04 07:03 AM
Re: Morrissey: Bowie was only relevant by accident new [re: tonyinsf]  

Bowie interview for TM1 Q#33 June 1989 P. 70:

DB: (Talking about current english music scene)...What is happening there at the moment?

Q: Hardcore, deep house, various types of world music, Morrissey is still very popular....

DB: Oh he isn't bad. I thihnk he is an excellent lyric writer. I've never been able to come to term with his melodies. I'm a suck for an old fashioned melody and I find his very disparate. They tail off a lot. But I think his lyrics are absolutely superb. One of the better writer than England -- and it's very English -- has produced over the past few years. I don't know much about his image or what he's about because I've never seen him live but I like the records.
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That's all the Morrissey part of the interview. I recalled this because of all the 100's of DB interviews he never goes into great detail on other current artists. The quote, including this magazine profile, is intentionally designed by Bowie to be read by Morrissey himself. This quote, which could be construed as a backhanded compliment, also predates the 95 tour debacle.

The only thing I can add about this interview is that it's from the TM period. Bowie has still dating the Glass Spider Dancer, had yet to meet Iman and was still in a "cranky" state(listen to TM1 if you want proof)

I just wanted to add this quote because Bowie was, then, in the creative gutter. And he took some verbal jabs at Morrissey. Bowie hasn't made his own barbed comments in magazines.

BFP




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