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AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
03/29/04 05:11 AM
Likely collaborators for the experimental album new  

As reported 3 weeks ago, Bowie is "ready for more emperimentation". If his next album is to be truely experimental and arty, then lets talk about potential and likely collaborators :


Brian Eno - Synonymous with Bowie and experimentation.

Adrian Belew - Possible choice of art rock guitarist post Gabrels. Last major album with Bowie was Lodger but he did work with Bowie in the studio around 1990 whilst Gabs was absent.

Robert Fripp - Slated for a Bowie collaboration leading up to Heathen but as far as we know, it is yet to happen.

Mike Garson - Natural choice of pianist. Experimentation brings out his best.

Tony Visconti - Producer of the Bowie/Eno Trilogy among others.

Tony Levin - Appeared on Heathen but has a long association with King Crimson and the above guitarists.

Erdal Kizilcay - Multi-instrumentalist more than proved his ability as a collaborator on the Buddha of Suburbia.

Carlos Alomar - Oscillating in the background of the last two albums and tours. Perhaps time to step forward.

Dennis Davis - The legendary Bowie drummer has even given lessons to Zach and Sterling. Still in close contact with Alomar as far as I know.

Philip Glass - Played piano for Bowie at Tibet concert. Due to work with Bowie on the Lodger Symphony.

Scott Walker - One of Bowie's last ambitions is to work with him.

Jeff Beck - Bowie described Ronson as his 'Jeff Beck'. He also has had future plans to work with JB.

Glenn Branca - Another experimental gutarist Bowie has mentioned wanting to work with.





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EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
03/29/04 05:33 AM
Let Them Rest, Please new [re: Adam]  

Can't we just look ahead and leave those oldies behind? I don't find it very experimental to use people who once were innovative but certainly belong to the music of the past. If you want experiments go for fresh people. David Torn and Gerry Leonard were a good step in that direction. And there are certainly loads of young Garsons and Enos around which I have never heard of. Those I want.

And please, everybody, don't tell me that something like "Outside Vol. 2" would be anything experimental. It's an old dog.

The only of the above names that I would actually support using is Tony Visconti. "Heathen" has proven that he can still come up with modern sounds.

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bowiefanpeter
(acolyte)
03/29/04 05:39 AM
Re: Likely collaborators for the experimental album new [re: Adam]  

From what I gather, Carlos and Fripp worked on the last two albums and virtually none of it has recieved public airing.

I would say that Bowie is more likely to want to work with new people and new ideas with a couple veterans like Garson to appease the 70's fans.

BFP



Nature_Boy
(kook)
03/29/04 06:26 AM
Re: Likely collaborators for the experimental album new [re: bowiefanpeter]  

Bowie would be very brave to do an experimental album after Heathen and Reality being so well received.

New collaborators would be very nice to see, I don't think he should get Eno in. Between the pair of them we'd end up with a nine minute track of Lexi gurgling and saying "dada" over a drum beat.

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diamondogz74
(stardust savant)
03/29/04 06:37 AM
Re: Let Them Rest, Please new [re: EJSunday]  

I personally would love to hear the continual story of "Outside" volume 2 "Contamination".

This would be very experimental especially after so many years since Outside 1.

But i guess you would call me an Old Dog ?

I agree with you on Tony Visconti. Heathen was beautiful.

Reality's good. But Heathen was far better.

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AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
03/29/04 07:05 AM
Spooky Ghost [re: EJSunday]  

I really dig Gerry Leonard's guitar on Sunday and Heathen (The Rays) as well as his work with Spooky Ghost. Leonard and Bowie probably make an album like Kid A if that was the direction they wanted to take.


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eraserhead
(stardust savant)
03/29/04 08:21 AM
Re: Let Them Rest, Please [re: EJSunday]  

In reply to:

Can't we just look ahead and leave those oldies behind? I don't find it very experimental to use people who once were innovative but certainly belong to the music of the past.


Oldies? And Bowie isn't an oldie? So I suppose we should leave him behind as well then. No Bowie on the next Bowie album. Brian Eno belongs to "the music of the past" but Bowie doesn't? What has Bowie done that saves him from belonging to that group? And what has Eno done that makes him a member of that "music of the past" club? No hard feelings, I'm just asking.



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Grey_Nihilist
(electric tomato)
03/29/04 10:33 AM
Re: Likely collaborators for the experimental albu [re: Adam]  

I'd personally like to hear what would happen if Bowie collaborated with the Kronos Quartet.

"It's not who does it first, it's who does it second" - Bowie.

EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
03/29/04 11:14 AM
Get The Fresh Folks In [re: eraserhead]  

In reply to:

No Bowie on the next Bowie album.


Just a brief answer as I think it is obvious what I was saying. What keeps Bowie staying fairly up to date is the introduction of innovative people to his productions. And I simply do not think that those old guys can help this other old guy to stay fresh. I sometimes get the impression that too many people here dwell on the idea that Bowie would be experimental simply if he worked with people again who once helped him to be innovative. But that was then. To be experimental is to look ahead, to create - not to repeat.

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Tristan
(acolyte)
03/29/04 11:55 AM
ala DS & KB [re: EJSunday]  

In reply to:

Can't we just look ahead and leave those oldies behind?


With the exception of Mike Garson I quite agree with you, EJ, though Ryuichi Sakamoto wouldn't be a bad replacement on the piano. I'd, also, like to see Bowie work with Kenny Wheeler and Mark Isham on flugelhorn and trumpet.

How about working with The Trio Bulgarka (soloist Yanka Rupkhina) and The Balavescu String Quartet ala Kate Bush and experiment with Uillean Pipes, Bouzouki, Fiddle, Whips, Valiha, Cello, Celtic Harp, Violin, Whistles, Mandolin, Viola and Tupan like Kate did with The Sensual World, one of the best albums ever made (imo).

Put all of these people listed in this post in a room with Bowie and see what happens. Bound to be different and grand.

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