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zigbot
(crash course raver)
04/29/04 05:32 PM
Re: Station to Station Part II [re: RabbitFighter]  

In reply to:

Why would [we] want to receive salvation from such a harsh, not to mention cruel puppet master?


Perhaps because we're human, small, and scared shitless.


zigbot

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
04/29/04 05:44 PM
Re: Station to Station Part II [re: zigbot]  

Each to his/her own I guess. Personally i'd rather take my chance with the guy downstairs, not that I believe in either one of them.

"yes, I think I will experience a light depression around 9:00 Wednesday which will worsen until 13:00, after which I will probably experience an elevation of mood"
StrangeDivine

ZiggyMercury
(wild eyed peoploid)
04/29/04 06:14 PM
Re: Snow [re: riley]  

In reply to:

what makes Judaism different from them and less exclusive?



To me, the main difference is that in Judaism being God's chosen people does not mean that others are excluded from God. As I mentioned earlier, you don't have to be Jewish to go to Heaven, you just have to be a good person (I think there are seven rules, like don't kill people, don't steal, believe in God, and a few other general things). The Jewish interpretation of being the chosen people is that they were the people that God chose to gave the Torah to (although he had tried to give it to other people, who weren't able to handle it), that they are held to a higher moral standard because they were given this, and that they are to set an example for others to follow. It never means that they are better than any other people, although some Jews take it this way. But hey, there are assholes in every faith.

No, that didn't take that long, but last night I was stressed out and tired. I'm stilll stressed out. This is the last week of classes for me and I am utterly buried in work.

I make no apologies for being fabulous.

ZiggyMercury
(wild eyed peoploid)
04/29/04 06:21 PM
Re: Snow [re: ZiggyMercury]  

Time for me to have a user pic.

I make no apologies for being fabulous.

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
04/29/04 06:23 PM
Re: Snow [re: ZiggyMercury]  

You should have used a picture of the other guy in your handle. Much more handsome if you ask me.

"yes, I think I will experience a light depression around 9:00 Wednesday which will worsen until 13:00, after which I will probably experience an elevation of mood"
StrangeDivine

ZiggyMercury
(wild eyed peoploid)
04/30/04 01:26 AM
Re: Snow [re: poorsoul]  

I think that this puts it all in perspective. It's about whether Bowie or God is better.

http://www.white-man-killer.com/bowie/bowievgod.html

I make no apologies for being fabulous.

poorsoul
(acolyte)
04/30/04 02:18 AM
February new [re: ZiggyMercury]  

In reply to:

You've assumed incorrectly.



So why aren't the Kurds "chosen people", too? They've always had a raw deal and don't even have the loving relationship the West has with Israel to protect them from the evil Arabs.

In reply to:

Current affairs aside, what was it the Jews did to the Nazis? Or any of the ones that came before them?



Have you actually read any of the Old Testament? The people it describes are a xenophobic, genocidal, misogynistic lot - and I don't mean the Babylonians. And "they started it first" isn't an excuse.

My Opinion On The War On Terror



ZiggyMercury
(wild eyed peoploid)
04/30/04 02:37 AM
Re: February new [re: poorsoul]  

In reply to:

So why aren't the Kurds "chosen people", too?



In case you weren't paying attention, that was one tiny aspect of the larger argument.

As to your other comment, large sweeping statements won't do for a logical argument. You could be referencing anything, and you need to focus it.

I make no apologies for being fabulous.

poorsoul
(acolyte)
04/30/04 03:27 AM
Relate new [re: ZiggyMercury]  

Your argument was:

"When a people are treated SO shittily when they've really never done anything to anybody says to me that these must be God's people."

In reply to:

As to your other comment, large sweeping statements won't do for a logical argument. You could be referencing anything, and you need to focus it.



Examples of violence, intolerance and sexism.

My Opinion On The War On Terror



AnnLanders
(grinning soul)
04/30/04 03:28 AM
Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil new [re: pianocraft]  

Dear pianocraft,

Your religious dogma will certainly bring you followers. The faithful will bring forth a bountiful harvest. The fish will multiply and the millions you spawn will fill their hole in the soul with God.

More Babies Will Bring You An Army To Kill The Unbelievers, Ann


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