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hangontoyourself
(electric tomato)
08/12/04 05:22 AM
Leaving Bowie new  

I've often wondered when hearing about people like Gary Glitter and Jonathon King how I'd feel if Bowie was convicted of a serious crime. As a hardcore fan it would take something fairly huge to make me leave him completely on principle. What would it take for you to abandon him?

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pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
08/12/04 06:25 AM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: hangontoyourself]  

The difference is Gary Glitter was a pretty one dimensional person without the artistic merits of Bowie, I think he would have to kill my dog or something.

I agree with the above statement.

RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
08/12/04 08:19 AM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: hangontoyourself]  

The guy can be tax evading dograpist for all I care, it doesn't exactly ruin his music. It might (and would) lower my respect towards him but it still wouldn't stop me from torturing myself with Tonight.

Pablo don't go there, dissing Gary Glitter is the last thing you should do. You don't want the co-founder of TW's Gary Glitter appreciation society as your enemy.

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pablopicasso
(stardust savant)
08/12/04 08:28 AM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: RabbitFighter]  

Come on, come on,
Come on, come on,
come on come on come on, I SAY!

I agree with the above statement.

Dara
(acolyte)
08/12/04 08:36 AM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: hangontoyourself]  

There's nothing Bowie could do that would make me enjoy his music any less. For me, Bowie the person is totally divorced from Bowie the artist. He doesn't have to be a nice person (though happily he seems to be): he just has to make great music.

The ancient Greeks coined the word and invented the concept of "heroes". But their concept was a bit different from ours. For them, a hero didn't have to be selfless, or even nice. He just had to do great things that others could not, because he was favoured by the Gods with a gift. So the concept of hero was an intrinsically unfair one: the hero through no merit of his own was favoured by the God's with a gift.

On the whole, I prefer this original concept of hero to our rather wishy washy modern version.

Slan libh,

Dara

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Persilot
(crash course raver)
08/12/04 09:11 AM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: hangontoyourself]  

What about Michael Jackson. If he ever does get found out to be a child abuser will it mean that suddenly every one of his songs is dropped from the playcharts? I doubt it.

Similarly if Bowie was found to be a murderer or an abuser or whatever I would probably still listen to his music, it would still be good music. Objectively speaking it shouldn't matter about the artists personal life.

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hangontoyourself
(electric tomato)
08/12/04 11:21 AM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: Persilot]  

I'm sure on principle that if he is convicted out of "decency" it would lessen airplay at least. I know if an artist was convicted of a serious and awful crime I would feel guilty about still supporting them.

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SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
08/12/04 11:29 AM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: hangontoyourself]  

In reply to:

What would it take for you to abandon him?


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wannabebowie
(kook)
08/12/04 11:50 AM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: hangontoyourself]  

One of the many things I love about Bowie is that he never got overtly political. Of course, he's human and a few things have slipped out here and there over the years. But mainly he's stuck to the "I'm an artist" mantra and avoided preaching. Thank God, and if he changed in this it would hurt a lot.



LadyGravedigger
(kook)
08/12/04 12:16 PM
Re: Leaving Bowie [re: Persilot]  

In reply to:

What about Michael Jackson.


That's a good example. When the child abusing thing first came to public in the nineties, I considered myself a moderate Michael Jackson -fan. Of course the child abusing accusations didn't make his music any worse, but it did have the effect that I had to start explaining everyone why I still liked his music. It made things kind of complicated. I didn't want to believe he'd done it. Actually I still don't, but just don't care so much anymore.

But if Bowie was accused and perhaps even found guilty of doing something like sexually abusing kids... I'd still like his music, but I'd really have hard time liking him as a person. Because now, although I don't of course really know him as a person, I get a feeling I might want to meet him, and that I'd enjoy it. But if he'd done something really terrible, well... I just couldn't. Now I like every aspect of Bowie. Then I'd have to separate his music and everything else, and that would probably make me less of a fan.

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