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Mxy
(wild eyed peoploid)
03/14/05 10:32 PM
Re: Down on my knees in suburbia new [re: diamondogz74]  

It's curious that Reality has ten votes and 'hours...' has one. I get the feeling in 1999 or 2000 'hours...' would get the ten votes (if not more) and the lone one would go to Earthling or Outside.

Bring back Bowie's moustache!

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
03/15/05 06:46 AM
Everything will be allright. new [re: francesco]  

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It's just that mid-way through the Wedding Song, I have already become numb...


Then again, The Wedding Song is the last track on the album.

Jokes aside, I actually like The Wedding (the opening instrumental, that is) a lot. The bassline especially is gorgeous. And it's the only Bowie piece that features tubular bells.

In reply to:

No there is a big difference between a comissioned work and contractual album, the comissioned album has to be about a particular subject relating in some way to the writers thoughts, a contractual obligation can be anything so long as it's filled, would you not agree?


My mistake, terms-wise. I agree with you on that. On the crapness of Reality we will have to agree to disagree, though.

That said, I admit there is potential there for good tracks. However, we can't simply judge an album by 'potential'. A lot of Tonight has potential (as proved by the eminently superior 12" mixes) but that still doesn't make the original album any better.

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Edited by Sysiyo on 03/17/05 06:11 AM (server time).



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
03/15/05 06:57 AM
Re: Everything will be allright. new [re: Sysiyo]  

In reply to:

That said, I admit there is potential there for good tracks. However, we can't simply judge an album by 'potential'. A lot of Tonight has potential (as proved by the eminently superior 12" mixes) but that still doesn't make the original album any better.


I would say that Tonight is a better album than Reality, at least Tonight has some experimental work involved whereas Reality sounds like it comes off a conveyor belt.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

NoGame
(acolyte)
03/16/05 05:13 AM
I can't agree to this... new [re: diamondogz74]  

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at least Tonight has some experimental work involved


Really? Explain.

Obviously Reality has no experimental work with Bowie going out and try to capture a jazz feel on Bring Me The Disco King and the vulnuralbility of The Loniest Guy...

NoGame
I see your thing alright.

poorsoul
(you will pay mr jones)
03/16/05 06:07 AM
Udg new [re: NoGame]  

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a jazz feel on Bring Me The Disco King



As if half of Aladdin Sane wasn't enough.

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the vulnerability of The Loniest Guy...



How avant-garde.

My guess is that he was referring to the rather ill-fated attempt to explore reggae.

Filling Up Heaven



SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
03/16/05 07:03 AM
Re: Udg new [re: poorsoul]  

In reply to:

My guess is that he was referring to the rather ill-fated attempt to explore reggae.


Which can be said to be experimental from Bowie's point of view, as he had nevber done anything like that before. Just as a point though: 'never done before' doesn't nescessarily mean the result will be great.

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diamondogz74
(freecloud)
03/16/05 07:14 AM
Re: I can't agree to this... new [re: NoGame]  

In reply to:

Really? Explain.

Obviously Reality has no experimental work with Bowie going out and try to capture a jazz feel on Bring Me The Disco King and the vulnuralbility of The Loniest Guy...


Fair enuff the ones you quote are brilliant in particular BMTDK, closely followed by "The Loneliest Guy", the first one BMTDK is experimental as such in that it duz have that wonderful laid back jazzy torch song appeal to it and an album like this would be very welcome and is long overdue IMO.

But two good songs do not make a good album unfortunately at it's best a singalong quality is Realitys saving grace.

In reply to:

Which can be said to be experimental from Bowie's point of view, as he had nevber done anything like that before. Just as a point though: 'never done before' doesn't nescessarily mean the result will be great.


Yes exactly the reggae experimentation which I find rather enjoyable, whilst it may not be great at least it's an attempt of experimenting and Reality plays it straight down it's populistic line.

Besides I like Tonight, Loving The Alien is superb and I even love Bowies vocals on "God Only Knows" for me the album has a definate London feel to it.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

francesco
(wild eyed peoploid)
03/16/05 08:06 AM
Re: I can't agree to this... new [re: diamondogz74]  

I'm not with you on that one Diamond. I think Tonight is far more commercial and going after the trend of the moment; in that particular period reggae was fashionable again and although Bowie himself had never done it before, Tonight smells like an ill-fated attempt to jump on the bandwagon.
Think of Blue Jean as well: perfect song in many ways, but really it's very much a singalong, commercial tune.

Other than maybe Loving the Alien, or maybe on a par with it, I think New Killer Star along is far stronger than any song on Tonight. But that's just my 50 cents really.

And Sys, you are right I meant The Wedding, not the Wedding Song of course...



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
03/16/05 08:25 AM
Re: I can't agree to this... new [re: francesco]  

In reply to:

I'm not with you on that one Diamond. I think Tonight is far more commercial and going after the trend of the moment; in that particular period reggae was fashionable again and although Bowie himself had never done it before, Tonight smells like an ill-fated attempt to jump on the bandwagon.


IMO it was a distinct drift away from the very commercial Let's Dance album, he couldn't move fast enuff to erase that image

I don't deny Tonight has some catchy songs on it, "Blue Jean" probably was guilty of that but hey come on how different to the former album can you get? an attempt and a good one at that of musical comedy.

In reply to:

Other than maybe Loving the Alien, or maybe on a par with it, I think New Killer Star along is far stronger than any song on Tonight. But that's just my 50 cents really.


But don't you think some of that could be the emotive quality of referring to 9/11, that's how I see it, lord knows these albums are worlds apart really, but Tonight is a good album that could have been much better.



London Bye Ta-Ta...

SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
03/16/05 08:26 AM
Re: I can't agree to this... new [re: francesco]  

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Other than maybe Loving the Alien, or maybe on a par with it, I think New Killer Star along is far stronger than any song on Tonight. But that's just my 50 cents really.


The problem with NKS, and with the whole Reality album, really, is that it's far too repetitive. There's a decent riff, and then it's just been repeated with very little variance for four minutes or so, and that's it. The album sounds very much like Bowie just put down the first riff that came into his mind, and moved on to the next song. With the possible exception of the covers, each song outstays it's welcome because there simply isn't enough material or variance in them to keep them interesting.

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