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FritzFassbender
(kook)
08/02/05 00:57 AM
Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair?  

With all the abuse he's put on his body over the years and the fact alone that he's nearly 60, Bowie shouldn't have any hair at this point, but it doesn't even look as if his hairline is even going back a little. That's quite commendable, but there has to be an explanation. What do you think?


Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair?

Good Genes
Money (aka He Knows The Right People)
It's Fake (Wig, Hair Extensions)
Transplant Surgery (But From Where? Or Whom?)
Unbelievably Dumb Luck
A Deal With Satan


View the results for this poll



I can't really think of any more, maybe someone else can.

I'm sorry, this probably has been discussed before, but has it ever been presented in convenient, easy to reference poll form? It's a modern update, like The Bad News Bears.



LadyGravedigger
(cracked actor)
08/02/05 03:34 AM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FritzFassbender]  

Well, yet again I could offer an example of my own dad. He's 62 and he still has very thick hair. And he hasn't lived an excactly healthy life either. Well, he's never done drugs, but I think he's done his share of drinking and smoking, and compared to Bowie at the moment he really seems like an old man. But still, he hasn't lost any of his hair.

And yeah, actually his dad, my granddad was the same thing. I don't really know how healthy his ways of living were, but he died a few years ago when he was 84 and still had all his hair left.

So, I'd say that some men just manage to keep their hair all their lives. It could be luck or genes, but at least it's possible.

Vanity is all

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/02/05 08:01 AM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FritzFassbender]  

In reply to:

Good Genes


Put it down to good genes, has to be really, all the males in my family history have all had hair until their dying days, I've given my hair plenty of abuse over the years and like me it's still as thick as ever


London Bye Ta-Ta...

AdamAdministrator
(cricket menace)
08/02/05 08:45 AM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FritzFassbender]  

Here is a pic of Bowie's father:



Having lived to only 57 (the same age that Bowie had his heart attack), this photo captures Heywood at a younger age than Bowie is now.

The only pic I have of Bowie's maternal grandfather is one in which he is wearing a hat.

But on this evidence, I'm guessing 'unbelievably dumb luck'.

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littlechinagirl
(kook)
08/02/05 10:18 AM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: Adam]  

I certainly think that his hair is all his own, much like Pamela Andersons breasts are all her own .





zigbot
(stardust savant)
08/02/05 02:01 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FritzFassbender]  

Good genes. And the photo of his father doesn't tell you much, actually. Geneticists believe that people get their more dominant hair genes from their MOTHER'S side of the family. So if the gene for male-pattern baldness is usually inherited from your mother, whether and when your father lost his hair isn't a good predictor of how your own mop will fare. Look at the men on your mother's side of the family for a more accurate view.

I also have another theory. Femmy men age well. Slightly effeminate men age better than super macho men. The David Bowies and the Johnny Depps will look younger longer (and may hold on to their hair longer) than the Mel Gibsons or Bruce Willises of the world. Just a theory. The only fem-boy I can think of straight off that blows the theory to hell, though, is Eno.

And, Bowie's hair is real. I was just about two feet from his face as the man as he knelt . . . yes, knelt . . . during "Slip Away" right before me. I got some good looks at him at other shows last year, but the Holmdel New Jersey show took the cake. I could see his hairline (very natural, no sign of plugs, not even microplugs) because he was sweating and his hair was brushed back off his face. I could see that pink hew on his face and neck (you know, the one you get when you're exerting yourself . . . singing, performing, working out, sex, whatever). He's really a right beautiful man. He has lines on his face, but they are subtle and he has rather magnificent skin.

Hate on him all you want you bald boys in your 20s, but Bowie's hair is legit.

zigbot

FastChanges
(electric tomato)
08/02/05 03:02 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: zigbot]  

What about Elton John? He's slightly effeminate and still has a lot of hair.

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FritzFassbender
(kook)
08/02/05 03:13 PM
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Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: zigbot]  

Nah, I'm not hating, I was just curious what people thought.

I agree, I think it is his natural hair, but personally, I lean more toward the money choice. When a large part of your persona is about your hair, you don't depend on dumb luck, and you know how to find the people to help. Just my opinion.

I don't know about the femmy men theory. Look at Paul Newman, or Clint Eastwood, they look pretty good and have pretty good hair for men their age. Gene Hackman, Dustin Hoffman, Michael Caine, they've all aged pretty well.

Most effeminate looking men, what happens is they reach a point where their looks sort of harden like everyone else, but people say they look the same because they never gained weight or lost their hair. You could point to Bowie, Anthony Perkins, or Christopher Walken to prove this.



Dara
(acolyte)
08/02/05 03:18 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: zigbot]  

In reply to:

Good genes. And the photo of his father doesn't tell you much, actually. Geneticists believe that people get their more dominant hair genes from their MOTHER'S side of the family. So if the gene for male-pattern baldness is usually inherited from your mother, whether and when your father lost his hair isn't a good predictor of how your own mop will fare. Look at the men on your mother's side of the family for a more accurate view.


I'm aware of this theory, but I appear to disprove it (along with my brother). Or else we're unbelievably lucky. Either way, every known male relative on my mother's side (and there are over 40 of them: Irish families) was bald as a coot at 30, whereas my brother (35) and I (40) still have full heads of hair.

My father is one of the hairiest men that ever lived, so our guess is his hirsute genes somehow won out. We both molt a lot, suggesting the Flood "lose the hair" genes are working, but are overwhelmed by the O'Kearney "grow a new head of hair every week" ones.

Slan libh,

Dara

"We get smart too late and old too soon." - Mike Tyson

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/02/05 03:23 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FastChanges]  

In reply to:


What about Elton John? He's slightly effeminate and still has a lot of hair.


You call this hair!




London Bye Ta-Ta...

Strawman
(acolyte)
08/02/05 03:29 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FritzFassbender]  

I thought it was common knowledge that cocaine use encourages hair growth -- You don't see many bald Peruvians.

And look at this Colombian footballer:





Tin
(stardust savant)
08/02/05 05:34 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: Dara]  

In reply to:

My father is one of the hairiest men that ever lived


Does that include back hair? Just curious, because my stepdad is one hairy mo-fo, complete with (icky) back hair. But, he's almost completely bald at 78 and was doing the comb-over when he was 55.

I think baldness vs. full heads of hair (male and female, they bald too) is based on a combination of things. Genetics for sure, but original heritage too. Say your origins were from a colder climate, more hair. Warmer climate, less hair. I don't recall seeing many African males with chest hair. Whereas my stepdad's roots were in more Nordic regions, but not all were... some are French and possibly Scottish.

As for Bowie... it's the real thing and good on him for that.

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

Patches
(cracked actor)
08/02/05 05:50 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FritzFassbender]  

I vote dumb luck....

Although I know men who were shaving their heads by 35, some still have a full head at 8 5. A friend of mine who turns 55 next month, starting going bald around 30, even though he had a full, thick, head of hear all his life. So since he was 30, he has been shaving it.

I guess it is dumb luck with Bowie.

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egrorian
(grinning soul)
08/02/05 06:13 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: diamondogz74]  

It is kind of hard to imagine Bowie being baldy though, isn't it?



Coan_teen
(cracked actor)
08/02/05 08:36 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: LadyGravedigger]  

My grandfather is 85 years old and his hair is still thick and lustrous. He didn't go gray until he was almost 70, either. So it's not impossible...I'm voting good genes.

My sister would like me to include the following:
BOOBIES.

I must get out of these wet clothes and into a dry martini.

Coan_teen
(cracked actor)
08/02/05 11:34 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FastChanges]  

He went very bald some years ago. His current coif has got to be plugs or an incredibly good rug.

I must get out of these wet clothes and into a dry martini.

Nature_Boy
(crash course raver)
08/03/05 04:30 AM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: FritzFassbender]  

A lot of aging Rock Stars seem to have mysteriously kept there hair. With the exception of crap MOR rockers like Status Quo and Phil Collins. I put it down to an abundence of rocking and rolling.

It can't be drugs as the Quo are renowned for their intake. They may have heralded in Live Aid, but they've snorted the equivalent of the whole Afircan debt up their shnozes

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LadyGravedigger
(cracked actor)
08/03/05 04:57 AM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: zigbot]  

In reply to:

I also have another theory. Femmy men age well.


Although, I'm really not an expert on these kinds of things, I think there might be some sense in that theory. At least with the hair. Because I remember from school biology that also women carry that "hair-losing" -gene, but it's the testosterone that makes the gene work. So possibly the more effeminate men have slightly less testosterone than the machos.

Vanity is all

th0mas
(acolyte)
08/03/05 07:07 AM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: zigbot]  

In reply to:

Slightly effeminate men age better than super macho men.


yep, one could call it the peter o'toole factor...

Are you bad enough?

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/03/05 07:20 AM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: egrorian]  

In reply to:

It is kind of hard to imagine Bowie being baldy though, isn't it?


Very! here's a secret photograph taken of Mr Bowie circa 1975 spraying his hair on, It comes in a can and is called Instant-hair (TM)




London Bye Ta-Ta...

Dara
(acolyte)
08/03/05 12:12 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

Does that include back hair?


No, we're strictly talking head hair here. As far as back or chest hair goes, he's almost entirely without, but as far as his head goes, he looks like he's got a wild bush growing up there.

Slan libh,

Dara

"We get smart too late and old too soon." - Mike Tyson

zigbot
(stardust savant)
08/03/05 03:10 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: Tin]  

In reply to:

Say your origins were from a colder climate, more hair. Warmer climate, less hair.


Hmmm. I don't think it works that way at all. How do you explain hairy Italians, Greeks, Turks, and Arabs?--They all hail from hot climates. Yet I don't see a lot of overly hairy Swiss walking around.

I'm Greek and although I like the thick hair on my head, I detest having to shave my legs all the time. My sister and I used to joke that they need to make Nair (the hair remover) in "Mediterranean strength."

zigbot

Tin
(stardust savant)
08/03/05 04:24 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: zigbot]  

You're right, my theory is flawed. However, I still think there is some credence to it, though one would have to look at a lot of data to find any links. In the case of say, Greeks. Perhaps that type of hair is better as a heat shield (black) and promotes sweating to keep the body cool. You could then compare that hair to those of someone from Iceland and see what function, body hair has in that climate. However, I'm not an anthropologist or trained scientist by any stretch. If I can find anything to back up my idea, I'll post it.

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

Tin
(stardust savant)
08/03/05 05:16 PM
flaw removal new [re: Tin]  

zigbot, what I neglected to factor in is skin color. The theory on hair density I just read factors in the need for UV protection. Africa, dark-skinned thus ideal UV protection and little visible body hair. Greece, light-skinned not so good for UV protection so thicker body hair is required for that protection. Norway, little UV protection needed, so light-skinned, but additional body hair for insulation.

If you're really interested, check out these two links:
Human Thermoregulation and Hair Loss
Difference Between Races

It is my opinion and I am unanimous in this, because it is my opinion, which is, in fact, mine.

syndrome
(mortal with potential)
08/07/05 01:35 AM
Re: Why hair? new [re: Tin]  

I would assume that, if not for the drugs, he would be bald or balding by now.
Or maybe if one always changes one's hairdo, it lasts longer or something?



Vanessa_Y
(kook)
08/08/05 05:16 PM
Re: Why hair? new [re: syndrome]  

I heard something sort of supporting that once; where your hair gets "used" to one style and will thin-but this was about women wearing thier ponytail band in one place all the time-I don't believe we shall ever see bowie with a ponytail...

" If we're all gods children..whats so special about Jesus? "
Vanessa


spartagus
(grinning soul)
08/08/05 05:35 PM
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Re: Why hair? new [re: Vanessa_Y]  

wanna bet?
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bowiefanpeter
(the voyeur)
08/08/05 06:13 PM
Re: Why hair? new [re: spartagus]  

Is that a ponytail?



spartagus
(grinning soul)
08/08/05 08:09 PM
i think hell just froze over new [re: bowiefanpeter]  

it sure is

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Vanessa_Y
(kook)
08/08/05 08:28 PM
Re: i think hell just froze over new [re: spartagus]  

Holy cow!!!!

I stand corrected.

" If we're all gods children..whats so special about Jesus? "
Vanessa


Githionel
(grinning soul)
08/08/05 09:05 PM
Re: Why Does Bowie Still Have Hair? new [re: zigbot]  

> I also have another theory. Femmy men age well. Slightly >effeminate men age better than super macho men. The >David Bowies and the Johnny Depps will look younger >longer (and may hold on to their hair longer) than the Mel >Gibsons or Bruce Willises of the world. Just a theory.


Actually, excess testosterone is what chemically causes hair loss. It's why some women lose some of their hair later when they have less estrogen. So femmy men may actually just have the perfect balance of hormones to live long and stay young. Plus the being totally hot thing.

Gilly

You poor old sot, you see it's only me.

FritzFassbender
(kook)
08/09/05 02:24 AM
It's All About The Money new [re: Githionel]  

I'm surprised there's only been one vote (myself) for the 'Money' choice. Good genes surely play a part in it, but when you're in a position of fame and wealth, you know how to find the best products, the best treatments, and the right people to ensure that you keep your hair.

Don't give examples of bald celebrities just to prove me wrong, Bowie's a different kind of egg. His image is largely based on his hair; just think about how his persona changes would have appeared without it. If he isn't aware of this, which he definitely is, he's at least had those in the know to keep him aware. That's my theory, anyway.

While we're talking, here's a fun site where you can find out how to design you hair like Tonight-era Bowie (This link should work; if it doesn't, try the next post)

http://www.georgecaroll.com/male%20stars/david%20bowie/david-bowie1.htm

Edited by FritzFassbender on 08/09/05 03:20 AM (server time).



syndrome
(mortal with potential)
08/09/05 02:54 AM
Re: It's All About The Money new [re: FritzFassbender]  



Here.



zigbot
(stardust savant)
08/09/05 07:04 PM
Re: It's All About The Money new [re: FritzFassbender]  

In reply to:

His image is largely based on his hair; just think about how his persona changes would have appeared without it. If he isn't aware of this, which he definitely is, he's at least had those in the know to keep him aware. That's my theory, anyway.


Oh, he IS aware. He joked last year that when he wants to hide from media, paparazzi, etc., he just wears a hat to cover his hair. He joked that his entire charisma or personality is in his hair. Once he's got a hat, he blends in like a regular joe.



zigbot

BigFatDog
(kook)
08/10/05 04:06 AM
Yee-Ha new [re: zigbot]  

You sure?

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diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/10/05 07:54 AM
Re: Yee-Ha new [re: BigFatDog]  

In reply to:


You sure?


positive


London Bye Ta-Ta...

bowiefanpeter
(the voyeur)
08/11/05 04:08 AM
Re: Yee-Ha new [re: diamondogz74]  

I see Bowie gets a laugh out of Austin Powers.

He gave a different reaction at a 1997 philadelphia radio show.

Anyone remember the DVD re-release of Linguini Incident from several years ago?

bfp



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/11/05 08:17 AM
Re: Yee-Ha new [re: bowiefanpeter]  

In reply to:


He gave a different reaction at a 1997 philadelphia radio show.


Stating what that he couldn't stand it? he's forever changing his mind, I sometimes wonder if anything he says is true

In reply to:

Anyone remember the DVD re-release of Linguini Incident from several years ago?


No I do not and cannot find it anywhere all I can find is this out dated VHS tape, what year was it re-released please Peter?




London Bye Ta-Ta...

FritzFassbender
(kook)
08/11/05 11:38 AM
Shag-O-Rama new [re: diamondogz74]  

He is referring to THIS. And I swear to you, this is quite real.





He had great hair in that movie, too.



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
08/11/05 11:47 AM
Re: Shag-O-Rama new [re: FritzFassbender]  

Thanks Fritz, I never even knew of this, wish I had it

Just wonderful.


London Bye Ta-Ta...

Vanessa_Y
(kook)
08/11/05 03:31 PM
Re: Shag-O-Rama new [re: FritzFassbender]  

...is it really? I...that shag-o rama strikes me as odd..but extremely funny-the look on his face...

" If we're all gods children..whats so special about Jesus? "
Vanessa


bowiefanpeter
(the voyeur)
08/11/05 07:04 PM
Re: Shag-O-Rama new [re: FritzFassbender]  

That's the one. I'm not sure which cover I actually like better.

Does Bowie own the movie? It said Isolar productions at the beginning.

bfp



FritzFassbender
(kook)
08/11/05 07:33 PM
Re: Shag-O-Rama new [re: bowiefanpeter]  

If he does, he has a hell of a sense of humor about himself.

The IMDB lists this film as Isolar's only movie. It's doubtful that it's Bowie's Isolar as that is a private management company, not really a full fledged production unit.

If his company had produced it, he most certainly would have gotten an 'executive producer' credit. You don't even have to be directly involved with the movie to get that (Bowie actually has been an E.P. for two foreign made movies).

zigbot
(stardust savant)
08/12/05 04:37 PM
Re: Shag-O-Rama new [re: FritzFassbender]  

Which films are those, Fritz? I'm curious.

zigbot

FritzFassbender
(kook)
08/12/05 06:39 PM
Re: Shag-O-Rama new [re: zigbot]  

The IMDB lists them as:

Passaggio per il paradiso (1998) (executive producer)
... aka Gentle Into the Night
... aka Passage pour le paradis (France)
... aka Passage to Paradise (USA)
Büvös vadász (1994) (executive producer)
... aka Bűvös vadász (Hungary)
... aka Magic Hunter (International: English title)

Could just be a case of the E.P. being a guy named David Bowie, but IMDB is usually pretty reliable.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000309/



zigbot
(stardust savant)
08/15/05 02:17 PM
Re: Shag-O-Rama new [re: FritzFassbender]  

Thanks Fritz. I've not heard of either film. I'm interested to check them out if I can find them in the foreign section of my local video store, though.

zigbot


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