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KModerator
(thunder ocean)
03/19/06 03:56 PM
Re: Battle Royale 2nd Round: Let's Dance 1 vs. Low new [re: candidate0]  

In reply to:

This is a joke right.

Low v Lets Dance ?


In the name of all fairness, I'm surprised Let's Dance isn't doing better. Side 1 on the record is incredibly strong, three classic singles and only one lesser track.

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Forgotten_Boy
(wild eyed peoploid)
03/19/06 10:05 PM
Re: Battle Royale 2nd Round: Let's Dance 1 vs. Low new [re: K]  

Yes but K theres almost twice the number of songs on side 1 of Low and all are top notch. A fairer comparison perhaps would have been Young Americans and Let's Dance.

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russellmael
(crash course raver)
03/20/06 06:10 AM
Re: comparing apples with oranges new [re: th0mas]  

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What makes it so alluring is that Bowie didn't understand either form.



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And therefore could not be sure what result he would receive when starting to produce it. Which makes it an experiment.


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utter nonsense. in that case any person who has gone into a recording studio is an experimental musician.




jump93
(electric tomato)
03/20/06 06:14 AM
Re: Battle Royale 2nd Round: Let's Dance 1 vs. Low new [re: EJ]  

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th0mas
(acolyte)
03/20/06 06:27 AM
Re: comparing apples with oranges new [re: russellmael]  

Ever heard a Bon Jovi record? Give it a try and spot the difference. You'll see what I mean.


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russellmael
(crash course raver)
03/20/06 06:57 AM
Re: comparing apples with oranges new [re: th0mas]  

So if the drummer or bassist from Bon Jovi are unfamiliar with big haired cock rock, but style it out because they have to / need to, it makes them experimental musicians?



th0mas
(acolyte)
03/20/06 07:58 AM
Re: comparing apples with oranges new [re: russellmael]  

Nope, but if Jon Bon Jovi gets into the studio and tells his musicians that the time of big haired cock rock is over and tries out a style which is between Eminem and Placebo without having an idea what style he is heading for since nobody did it before, there is plenty of chance that it can be considered experimental (there is also a high probability that it'll suck, since in the end it is still Bon Jovi).


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russellmael
(crash course raver)
03/20/06 08:06 AM
Re: comparing apples with oranges new [re: th0mas]  

I think we're saying the same thing, but approaching it from different angles...? Low is simply an evolution from Station To Station, offcuts from a couple of other projects (MWFTE OST, Iggy albums) ... not really an art project as portrayed for years.

'Different', yes... but not new.



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
03/20/06 08:13 AM
Re: Battle Royale 2nd Round: Let's Dance 1 vs. Low [re: K]  

In reply to:

Side 1 on the record is incredibly strong, three classic singles and only one lesser track.


Yes but the very fact these were so-called classic singles, doesn't make it any better, If anything, It cheapens it, considering these songs were recorded for a mass non Bowie fan market.


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Forgotten_Boy
(wild eyed peoploid)
03/20/06 08:59 AM
Re: Battle Royale 2nd Round: Let's Dance 1 vs. Low [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

considering these songs were recorded for a mass non Bowie fan market


I think you are making that viewpoint with the aid of hindsight. To go mainstream into a movement he helped create was as bold as it was ironic. At the time of it's release, Let's Dance was a genius move on Bowie's behalf. It was critically acclaimed too and, at the time of it's release, was cutting edge in terms of production and sound. I think Let's Dance was certainly recorded for Bowie's chief fanbase in mind, hence Ricochet and Criminal World et all. At the time the singles sounded fresh, energised and relevant, packing knock out punches that Bowie singles hadn't had so brilliantly in the past and would rarely have again, in the immediate future anyway. To your ears they may sound dated, but to these ears, when I first discovered Bowie 4 or 5 years ago, these songs still had the ability to straighten your spine and make you wanna get yer groove thang on. To my ears despite being rooted in 80s production, the energy of the performances transcends everything else. These songs ARE classics Dogz. They're not songs that were, as you suggested, recorded for a mass non Bowie market - check 'Tonight' and 'Never Let Me Down' for these. The thing about Let's Dance is he might have made it with mainstream success in mind, but it was grounded with distinct Bowieisms that would appeal to his extended fanbase first and foremost, because there was always the chance that it might not have achieved the dizzying heights of mass adoration by a non Bowie fan market that it did. It was when Dave started to make records FOR that non Bowie market that he lost his way. But that's a whole other post.

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