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RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
06/07/06 02:57 PM
I didn't even drag Hunky Dory into this new [re: K]  

Your opinion doesn't count. Only an insane person would slag off 69 Love Songs at the very same listening session.

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KModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/07/06 03:16 PM
Re: I didn't even drag Hunky Dory into this new [re: RabbitFighter]  

In my defence, we only listened to the first volume so that's hardly something to form a proper opinion on. And I did actually quite like some parts of it (How Fucking Romantic for one).

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diamondogz74
(freecloud)
06/07/06 03:43 PM
Re: Will and Arcade Fire Influence His next projec new [re: K]  

In reply to:

Anthony Newley, Elvis Presley, Marc Bolan, Kraftwerk, Scott Walker, Neu!, Brian Eno, The Pixies, Nine Inch Nails, Prodigy... what were those if not acts that influenced Bowie's sound?


I agree with you 100% on those highly influencial artists/groups, but they helped influence him when he was younger and climbing the ladder ( apart fromThe Pixies, Nine Inch Nails, Prodigy.) , I genuinely don't think Bowie needs anyones influence now, we'll have to wait for the new album to be sure.


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KModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/07/06 04:40 PM
Bowie and Inspiration new [re: diamondogz74]  

The era when Bowie had no visible influences was also the time when he made his worst music (Tonight & NLMD, arguably also Let's Dance). At the time of NLMD he even spoke of how he had completely fallen out with then-modern music... and the result was his arguably worst album (I admit there weren't that many artists making interesting new music at that time).

Following that era, Bowie's creative output wasn't really properly sparked again until his dabblings with modern art, Scott Walker and NIN gave (in their own part) birth to Outside. With Earthling the same was repeated, except that the inspirer then was the drum 'n' bass movement (alongside other things). Bowie's works after that, although not bad, have lacked the creative spark that Outside and Earthling had... and they have also lacked a notable inspirer.

Bowie has always been at his best when he has been inspired by something or -one, when he has been able to take a musical style or styles and transform them into his own. This is far from being something to be ashamed of; I'd argue that the best works in any musical style are not by the original innovator(s), but by the early second-generation musicians who could learn from the works of the first-generation people and bring a fresher, more interesting perspective to the style.

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RabbitFighter
(acolyte)
06/07/06 05:12 PM
No Oldfield albums then? new [re: K]  

In reply to:

I admit there weren't that many artists making interesting new music at that time


I'd advice leaving such vile nonsense out of your posts if you want to sound credible.

Acclaimed Music is your friend.

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KModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/07/06 05:26 PM
Not around that time, no. new [re: RabbitFighter]  

Allow me my vile ignorance.

I'm willing to make an exception for Sylvian's Secrets of the Beehive though.

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diamondogz74
(freecloud)
06/08/06 10:48 AM
Re: Bowie and Inspiration new [re: K]  

You put forward a good argument for the dire 1980's output, but IMO I think Heathen and Reality are masterpieces of albums, I hear no vizable influence of others on those two albums.

Bowie doesn't copy per se, he bends the music to suit his style, I think thats the big difference, I'm of the opinion the new album will be pure Bowie and hopefully no covers this time.


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KModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/08/06 11:07 AM
Re: Bowie and Inspiration new [re: diamondogz74]  

I am not saying that Heathen wouldn't be a very good album (Reality on the other hand is crap), but it does lack a certain sense of nowness and fresh discovery that most of Bowie's 70's albums, Outside, Earthling and arguably Buddha had. The same goes for Hours and Reality.

And I didn't mean to imply that Bowie had copied anything, nor I think did the creator of this thread when he said "will Bowie be inspired by --". Being inspired by an artist is not nescessarily at all the same thing as copying an artist (case point: Station To Station was inspired in part by Kraftwerk and Neu!, yet it sounds very little like them).

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Tristan
(legendary cowboy)
06/08/06 12:43 PM
Re: Bowie and Inspiration new [re: diamondogz74]  

In reply to:

Heathen and Reality are masterpieces


You wouldn't know a masterpiece if it bit Effee on the ass.
I tried to listen to Heathen a few weeks ago but I couldn't listen to it as a unit; only a few songs. I agree with K that Reality is a crap album. I can't find enough songs off the 2 albums to make 1 complete album. I could make a fine EP.


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CharlieManson
(kook)
06/08/06 12:54 PM
Re: Bowie and Inspiration [re: Tristan]  

And what the fuck would you know about good music?

Fucking Dixie Chick!!!!

Asshole!


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I'll break them gooks, I'll crack their heads
I'll slice them till they're running red
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