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First off, great post.

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Ta.

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Last, I can think of one good example of a fade-IN intro AND and fade-OUT outro that really work: Bowie's "Speed of Life." I adore how that song appears and disappears with a fade. Works brilliantly.

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As it does too on the sublime 'Saviour Machine.'

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Last, I can think of one good example of a fade-IN intro AND and fade-OUT outro that really work: Bowie's "Speed of Life." I adore how that song appears and disappears with a fade. Works brilliantly.

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Just like life itself - for some anyway.

Sunday fades out at the wrong time. It just strats to create momento then ifs over. I guess the real test is in live versions. You can't fade out on those. Not unless you are a pop star like Will Young Or something.

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Saviour Machine is indeed sublime.

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You wanted specific songs. Here's the songs that I feel could've done with a fade-out at a different (later) time, a more proper ending (no fade-out at all), or an alternate arrangement at the end for the fade out.

I'm not really too big of a fan of the fade-out. Sometimes it's appropiate. But I always feel jipped if it's not a fade-out during repition. Or if it doesn't add to the mood/mode of the song. A lot of times with the songs I picked it seemed that a guitar, or the drums, or the saxaphone would be doing something that would seem to be building up, or going somewhere, or leading into something. And I don't want a fade-out right when that happens. I feel like there's a bit more jamming that went on, but they cut it off. Fade-out during repitition! Don't start jamming and then cut me off. That's no good.

All these songs are picked from Space Oddity to Scary Monsters
Be My Wife
Black Country Rock
Blackout
Boys Keep Swinging
Breaking Glass
Cygnet Committee
Don't Sit Down (ok that one's a joke)
Fascination
I Pray, Ole
Janine
Kingdom Come
Look Back In Anger
Red Money
Red Sails
Repetition
Right
Running Gun Blues
Saviour Machine
Somebody Up There Likes Me
Sound And Vision
Teenage Wildlife
The Prettiest Star (Bolan Stereo Version)
Unwashed And Smoewhat Slightly Dazed
Up The Hill Backwards
What In The World
Who Can I Be?
Yassassin

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All these songs are picked from Space Oddity to Scary Monsters

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What about John I'm only dancing (again), Fame & Across the universe that actually have proper endings which can be heard at the end of the fade (on certain CDs). I hate it when that happens.

The secret life of Arabia also starts getting exciting right at the end of the fade (may only be on earlier LP and CD editions.

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Good list......and I think you have a strong point here:

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Fade-out during repitition! Don't start jamming and then cut me off.

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I've always felt that the song "Sunday" from Heathen was something of a culprit of this. It really felt like it was going somewhere with the rising vocal "everything has chaaaanged". Still, it's a pretty untoppable song so to perfect the ending any further would have really been impossible. Imho.

Sunday could have had an ending with the instruments more or less suddenly stopping and some hall or room effect. Or perhaps one big last bass sound? I could think of different attractive endings - but since it is the opener maybe in the context of the album it makes sense to leave it without some final ending, just like the ending of the last song is the most important one, since it is the last sound which one hears and therefore rather a concept ending than a mere song ending, like the strange sound at the end of No Game part 2 on Scary Monsters or the churchbells on the last track on BTWN whatever its name was.
Just like that the first tracks on Outside and Diamond Dogs don't have endings at all - both examples with a strong concept character.
So the feeling of Sunday going somewhere and so leading into the album might just have been the intention of Bowie and Visconti.


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I feel very happy that you of, all people, would say that I made a good list of Bowie songs that ended before they were over. Seriously.

I do wish I could hear what happened after those fade-outs though!

I haven't really listened to the albums after what I listed though. Perhaps I shall, one of these days. I'm almost sure that there are more tracks than I and you mentioned that could have done with a more proper ending.