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WildWind
(acolyte)
11/13/06 09:01 PM
Would you believe I've thought about this? new [re: Adam]  

I voted for Lodger before I read the thread. So Strawie and I have something in common. Who knew?

Anyway, this is a timely thread for me because I recently had a conversation with a friend about how artists should choose their live set lists, and a very big influence in my opinion was the Roseland '02 show, where Bowie played Low and Heathen in their entirety. In fact, in the course of that discussion, I actually used Lodger as an example of an album he could have played in its entiretly that would have been killer.

Though Low is one of my favorite albums, I hated it live. It didn't work. It's too ambient - it doesn't lend itself to a live environment where people want to get excited and dance and jam and party. Now, I do need to qualify my opinion with the fact that I was horribly ill during the show, so it was sort of hard for me to enjoy anything, but I really do feel that even taking that into consideration, it just wasn't right.

That's also the reason that I didn't pick The Buddha of Suburbia, which is hands-down my favorite Bowie album. I love that album more than life itself, but too many of its songs would be - frankly - boring live.

Lodger is a collection of great songs. While I can't see him doing "African Night Flight" live today, the idea of it is so fabulous that I'll let it go in this theoretical discussion. Forget concept, forget what's never been played, what you've got with Lodger is a bunch of songs where you can look forward to the next one and all, every single God damned last one of them sounds good and works live.

So, there it is.

WW

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ziggfried
(acolyte)
11/13/06 09:43 PM
Re: Would you believe I've thought about this? new [re: WildWind]  

In reply to:

Though Low is one of my favorite albums, I hated it live. It didn't work. It's too ambient - it doesn't lend itself to a live environment where people want to get excited and dance and jam and party.


Apparently, the instrumental stuff didn't go down too well with audiences on the 1978 tour either.

In reply to:

Lodger is a collection of great songs. While I can't see him doing "African Night Flight" live today, the idea of it is so fabulous that I'll let it go in this theoretical discussion. Forget concept, forget what's never been played, what you've got with Lodger is a bunch of songs where you can look forward to the next one and all, every single God damned last one of them sounds good and works live.


I bet Bowie would have played more than a few Lodger songs on the (aborted) 1981 tour. "Look Back In Anger" and "Red Sails" made it to Serious Moonlight, but of course by that time Bowie was doing the greatest hits package...

But yeah, Lodger live would be great. There is absolutely no filler-material on that album.

Of course, Alomar and Belew would have to be there...



KModerator
(thunder ocean)
11/14/06 04:36 AM
Re: Would you believe I've thought about this? new [re: ziggfried]  

Well, Red Sails definately isn't a greatest hit, so clearly he wanted to include it. Look Back In Anger isn't exactly a greatest hit either, it was a single only in the Americas and didn't too well in the charts either, at least by Bowie's standards.

Relatedly it's interesting to notice that all three singles off Lodger were played on the Outside tour.

"You don't Nomi."

AdamAdministrator
(cricket menace)
11/14/06 05:07 AM
Re: Would you believe I've thought about this? new [re: K]  

In reply to:

all three singles off Lodger were played on the Outside tour


And not really being hits per se, they were ignored on the Sound And Vision Tour. The more you analyse it, Outside was something of an anti-Sound and Vision tour - Bowie staying fairly true to having retired certain songs. Those were the days.


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Gurret
(absolute beginner )
11/15/06 02:29 PM
Re: Albums played live in their entirety new [re: Adam]  

I voted for TMWSTW. As far as I know, The Width Of A Circle, The Supermen and the title track is those songs from the album that he has been doing live during the years? And I would love to hear All The Madmen live!



ziggfried
(acolyte)
11/15/06 09:40 PM
Re: Albums played live in their entirety new [re: Gurret]  

In reply to:

As far as I know, The Width Of A Circle, The Supermen and the title track is those songs from the album that he has been doing live during the years?


I don't think he's done "The Width of a Circle" since the 1974 tour, except for the opening riff which then segued into "The Jean Genie" during the 1997 tour (I think).

And if memory serves, he hasn't done "All The Madmen" since 1987.



WildWind
(acolyte)
11/15/06 11:56 PM
My second choice new [re: ziggfried]  

Oh shit, you just brought back a memory. At the Austin Outside show, Bowie played the opening riff of Width of a Circle, and the Scottish freak next to me and I clutched each other in joy.

Then he stopped and it sucked.

3 months of pregnancy may increase the length of pregnancy, banana. -Spam

Forgotten_Boy
(kook)
12/06/06 09:18 PM
Re: Albums played live in their entirety new [re: ziggfried]  

In reply to:

I don't think Bowie would ever perform it (African Night Flight) - unless some hip contemporary band covers it


TV On The Radio should, they're the only ones that could pull it off credibly.

"You know that they refused Jesus too"
"You're not him"


Forgotten_Boy
(kook)
12/06/06 09:22 PM
Re: Albums played live in their entirety new [re: Forgotten_Boy]  

In fact, if he does Lodger, he should just use TV On The Radio as his backing band.

"You know that they refused Jesus too"
"You're not him"


carsten
(electric tomato)
12/07/06 06:21 AM
Re: Albums played live in their entirety [re: theidiot2]  

Diamond Dogs, not because it's my favourite album but it would work better live than something like Hunky Dory or Low. And it would be an excuse to emphasise the theatrical.

Yep, DD is a great choice - but then Low works very well - as demonstrated in Cologne.

Scary Monsters and Outside would be interesting too.

/Carsten





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