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EJ
(byroad singer)
10/16/08 11:11 AM
A little hero for one day new [re: kalamazoo]  

In reply to:

I learned everything I wanted to know about Bowie in Berlin in the 'Open up and Bleed' Iggy's biography.


How do you know what you want to know if you don't know all that happened??

I heard an interesting story about Bowie living in Berlin when I recently did a guided bus tour to the most important places in the City's history of rock and pop music.

Next door to where Iggy and Bowie lived there a still is a gay cafe and pub called "Anderes Ufer" (literally meaning "opposite bank", like a river bank), the name is an old fashioned expression for being gay. Coming from the other side of the river or sea, if you like.

Anyway, when that place opend in April 1977 it caused quite some uproar as it was the first overtly gay place in Germany (some claim in Europe) and it had to fight for its existence right from the start in an environment that didn't accept gayness that wasn't hidden behind curtains in dark clubs. Anti-gay mobs would come round and attack visitors and apparently one day Daddy got involved. Unsurprisingly Bowie was a regular in that place and some afternoon a fist-fight broke out on the street in front of the big window beside the entrance. Some gay people who were about to enter the place got attacked and at least one person got injured. As the story goes Bowie witnessed the fight from inside the cafe and rushed to help the injured. He also came up with the money to help the owners get a new window without being asked to do so. A good neighbour, I'd say.

That is the kind of story I expect when I buy a book about "Bowie in Berlin".

TW GOD OF FOOTBALL


Adam
(cricket menace)
10/16/08 12:24 PM
Re: A little hero for one day new [re: EJ]  

Was that the club owned by Romy Haag?

Bizarrely, I was riding the tram home the other night with my recently purchased 'Slow Burn' CD single and a stranger started talking to me about Bowie and Romy Haag - the transexual DB had a love affair with in 70s.

Anyway, this particular person had recently witnessed a local drag queen that had some connections back to Germany. From what I understood, Bowie and Romy lived in that same little district in Berlin.

Bowie Downunder

EJ
(byroad singer)
10/16/08 12:41 PM
Not Romy's Room new [re: Adam]  

No, it's not the club Romy Haag ran. It's not a club anyway, it is a very normal street cafe and bar, nothing glam or flash, and that normality apparently was what made the "normal" people angry. A place where gay people met just like anyone else would do was too much to take.

This is it:



TW GOD OF FOOTBALL


ziggfried
(acolyte)
10/16/08 05:46 PM
Re: Not Romy's Room new [re: EJ]  

In reply to:

(EJ) it is a very normal street cafe and bar, nothing glam or flash, and that normality apparently was what made the "normal" people angry.


I guess, perhaps ironically, those "normal" people wouldn't have been so offended if the cafe was actually much gayer looking.

In reply to:

(globule2) ziggfried: do you know what Ziggfried's official title was in C.H.A.O.S.?


My Get Smart-watching days are a couple of decades behind me, so I don't remember!



EJ
(byroad singer)
10/17/08 04:27 AM
All New new [re: ziggfried]  

I just saw on that photo that the "Anderes Ufer" has been renamed to "Neues Ufer" - new (river) bank. Just to get the facts right.

TW GOD OF FOOTBALL


globule2
(cracked actor)
10/17/08 09:19 AM
Re: Not Romy's Room new [re: ziggfried]  

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(globule2) ziggfried: do you know what Ziggfried's official title was in C.H.A.O.S.?
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My Get Smart-watching days are a couple of decades behind me, so I don't remember!
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Would you believe "Vice President of Public Relations and Terrorism"?
http://www.wouldyoubelieve.com/siegfried.html




ziggfried
(acolyte)
10/17/08 11:45 AM
Re: Not Romy's Room new [re: globule2]  

In reply to:

Would you believe "Vice President of Public Relations and Terrorism"?


I guess as Vice Presidents go, Siegfried combined the villainy of Spiro Agnew with the comedic stupidity of Dan Quayle.



EJ
(byroad singer)
04/17/12 04:50 AM
Bowie in Berlin - hope the DVD is better new [re: ziggfried]  

A new documentary named " Bowie in Berlin" is about to be released in Germany and maybe has already been in other parts of the world.

I hope it is not done by the same guy who wrote that terrible book which I reviewed in the initial post of this thread.

Anybody seen the DVD yet?

TW GOD OF FOOTBALL


Quills
(kook)
04/17/12 09:48 AM
Re: Bowie in Berlin - hope the DVD is better new [re: EJ]  

Same old, same old

http://www.network54.com/Forum/8980/thread/1332870476/Bowie+in+Berlin

I went to a restaurant that serves 'breakfast at any time'. So I ordered French Toast during the Renaissance.


EJ
(byroad singer)
04/18/12 07:42 AM
Re: Bowie in Berlin - hope the DVD is better new [re: Quills]  

It's claimed - but not proven.

The given length is different, so is apparently the studio that produced it.

Has anyone seen the "Under Review" DVD?

TW GOD OF FOOTBALL



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