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EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
06/17/04 05:54 PM
What You Need Is A Remix Album Not A Live Record new [re: Sysiyo]  

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I listen to the album to hear the wonderful arrangements and performance, not crowd noises.


You should listen to "Hunky Dory" - it is full of great arrangements and performances.

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AdamAdministrator
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06/17/04 06:39 PM
Re: Sound And Order new [re: pablopicasso]  

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They could always mix in the crowd from a Faces live album.


Or as I posted earlier in the week, The Sense of Adelaide (1978) bootleg. Think of how much better Stage would be with a few "Jesus fucking christ! That is amazing!"'s during the instrumentals?

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pablopicasso
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06/17/04 07:00 PM
Re: Sound And Order new [re: Adam]  

I like it!

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poorsoul
(acolyte)
06/18/04 02:52 AM
Execute new [re: Sysiyo]  

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And with the exception of Station To Station, all covers have reverted back to the originals in the most recent reissues.



And the original release of Space Oddity (or David Bowie, as it was actually called). The vinyl version of Tin Machine also depicted the band in different positions than on the CD but since they were released simultaneously, they could both considered to be originals.

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bowiefanpeter
(the voyeur)
06/18/04 03:44 AM
Re: Sound And Order new [re: Adam]  

Was it Visconti that once said that he mixed down the audience levels to cut out some booing during the first couple instrumentals of the show?

What's odd, is that fan accounts from 78 talked of potheads(and otherwise) were in stoner bliss during the instrumentals. It's like the chill out rooms that have on the upper floors of some rave clubs.

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pablopicasso
(cracked actor)
06/18/04 03:57 AM
Re: Sound And Order new [re: bowiefanpeter]  

I imagine some people booed, some people were blissfully stoned and some said
"Jesus fucking christ! That is amazing!"

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SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/18/04 05:24 AM
Re: Execute new [re: poorsoul]  

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And the original release of Space Oddity (or David Bowie, as it was actually called).


If I'm not too much mistaking (and I'm not ), David Bowie (1969) was originally released in the UK with the 'bubbles' cover it sports in the most recent reissue. In the US Man Of Words / Man Of Music was released with a somewhat similar cover that has a blue backround without the bubbles. The first issue to be called Space Oddity (RCA 1972) had a different Ziggy-era cover, which was used in all subsequent re-releases until EMI 1999 reissues.

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Dara
(acolyte)
06/18/04 08:03 AM
Re: The Signs Are Good new [re: dukewhite]  

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one reason it was originally released with a chronological tracklisting was that the songs fit better on the LP's that way. With vinyl, there were time constraints to what would physically fit on an album side that are significantly less than those on CD.


I find it difficult almost to the point of impossibility to believe that this was a factor. While it was often the case that the running order of vinyl albums had to take into account how much you could fit on a side (about 25 minutes if I remember correctly), fact is Stage was a double album, and there was plenty of time to spare no matter how they cut it.

It's difficult to believe they couldn't have run the album in show order, but that somehow magically by putting it in chronological order, it all fitted. And in fact, if we look at how the album ended up chronologically, we can see they had plenty of time to play with, and didn't end up particularly balanced over the four sides.

Side 1: 15 and a half minutes (approx)
Side 2: 17 and a half
Side 3: 19 and a half
Side 4: 19 and a half

Personally, I believe the real reason is that someone (probably RCA, but maybe Bowie too) felt that the more closely it resembled a "Greatest Hits" type compilation, the better it would sell (this would also explain why they took out the crowd sounds). By putting, for example, all the Ziggy era songs on one side, and all the mid 70s soul funk on another, they could make it more attractive to people who preferred one particular version of Bowie.

Slan libh,

Dara


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SysiyoModerator
(thunder ocean)
06/18/04 08:20 AM
Re: The Signs Are Good new [re: Dara]  

I was going to say that... But yeah, putting the tracks on correct order in the first place should have posed no difficulty.

Also, I think it's actually possible to queeze 30 minutes on one side of a vinyl. Mike Oldfield's 60-minute Amarok was released on vinyl, simply cut to half without any editing.

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AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
06/18/04 09:00 AM
Re: The Signs Are Good new [re: Sysiyo]  

It's hard to know seeing that Amarok was released much later. Technology usually means that things can become more and more condensed (one of the reasons why hard drives keep increasing in size). That said, the 45 minute Sgt. Peppers certainly indicates that 22 or 23 minutes was achievable.

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