Claude (big brother)
07/27/05 04:24 PM
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Fashion Rocks
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I just looked up Radio City Music Hall online. It does have something called Fashion Rocks coming in September and it lists Bowie.
Fashion Rocks The Fashion Of Music Talent line up includes David Bowie, Destiny’s Child, Duran Duran, Billy Idol, Alicia Keys, Tim McGraw, Gwen Stefani, Joss Stone, Rob Thomas and many more! Talent line up subject to change.
Tickets go on sale Friday, July 29 @ 10:00am.
Category: Special Events
Venue: Radio City Music Hall City, State: New York, New York To purchase tickets, click on your desired date and time. Event Date / Time: GS = Group Sales PT = Peak Time SO = Sold Out Sep 8, 2005, 8:00 PM $69.50 ( GS )
___________________ Claude
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ArdentDesir (electric tomato)
07/27/05 05:25 PM
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yup Bowienet confirmed it- very good news it is :)
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Claude (big brother)
07/27/05 07:41 PM
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___________________ Claude
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Shoes (wild eyed peoploid)
07/27/05 10:52 PM
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wow... that's a great venue, that wide, wide stage and all the atmosphere. wasn't expecting that eh!!!!
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BigFatDog (kook)
07/28/05 04:08 AM
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Last year Bowie sang Fashion elsewhere and it was shown to the audience on screens. Could be much the same case.
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"Hating Bowie in 1997 means hating everything overblown, theatrical, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual and jarringly progressive in the past 25 years of pop. In other words, everything great about pop. It also means hating yourself."
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
07/28/05 04:41 AM
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On TV it's a 2 hr show with each performer doing one song.
bfp
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Nature_Boy (crash course raver)
07/28/05 05:58 AM
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Yes, I imagine he'll dust off 'Fashion' again. It'd be nice if he was there in person this time. Still it is great news that he is finally performing again. Welcome back Dave!
Its about time I had a signature
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
07/28/05 07:53 AM
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In reply to:
Last year Bowie sang Fashion elsewhere and it was shown to the audience on screens. Could be much the same case.
Firstly this is great news and about time too, Im not so sure he'll just go along with singing Fashion, Im sure this be a glimpse of the new Bowie, the Bowie that will hopefully tour next year, as for the song he'll sing? well he could just surprise us all with a new song and not "( She Can ) Do That", maybe it's my wishful thinking.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
07/28/05 08:12 AM
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He will be singing predominantly to a none bowie audience, he will have to sing something they might know.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
07/28/05 08:20 AM
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In reply to:
he will have to sing something they might know.
Yeah I know but the eyes of the world will be on him considering this will be his first live performance since his illness, he'll take advantage of this situation and who wouldn't blame him? Is it written in stone only one song per artist, I really hope they let him sing at least three as in Live 8s schedule, or am I being greedy 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
07/28/05 08:54 AM
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Yes, you are being greedy, and only the Bowie eyes of the world will be on him, let's be fair, most people couldn't care.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
07/28/05 09:07 AM
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In reply to:
and only the Bowie eyes of the world will be on him, let's be fair, most people couldn't care.
I admit in my eyes the man is a rock god and always will be, but I remember many of the tabloids taking note of his recent visit to some fashion awards ceremony and that film awards event.
So Mr Bowie still carries some considerable clout.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Adam (cricket menace)
07/28/05 09:10 AM
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I'll be in LA on September 8 but I don't fancy crossing the country for one song (would for a full concert, however).
The other performers look pretty awful.
The Last of the Disco Kings MP3 by Adam D Versus David B
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Vanessa_Y (kook)
07/29/05 00:55 AM
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I love david bowie of course..i like rob thomas and Duran Duran and Billy idola nd for some unfathomable reason just love gwen stefani...
looks great to me.
suicide is like saying to god...YOU CANT FIRE ME I QUIT!" Vanessa
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emptysmellmetal (mortal with potential)
07/31/05 00:00 AM
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This is exciting news....Bowie's first TRUE comeback after his surgery. Hope he goes balls-out like he did when he previewed "Little Wonder" at VH1 Fashion Awards (?).....one of his liveliest performances. The big question> who's in the band?......he'll either confidently showcase a new song or re-work an oldie!?
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BigFatDog (kook)
07/31/05 01:54 PM
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Thinking about it, they might even show the old version of Fashion from last time.
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"Hating Bowie in 1997 means hating everything overblown, theatrical, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual and jarringly progressive in the past 25 years of pop. In other words, everything great about pop. It also means hating yourself."
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
07/31/05 03:34 PM
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In reply to:
Thinking about it, they might even show the oldversion of Fashion from last time.
That's right James, cheer us all up why don't ya 
btw neat avatar 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Claude (big brother)
07/31/05 03:45 PM
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Wow, I'm so happy!!!! I got two tickets for the show!!!!! and so my wife and me will be there.......in NEW YORK!!!!! I have never seen New York.....so I will stay there for a week!!!!
___________________ Claude
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Sysiyo (thunder ocean)
07/31/05 04:40 PM
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In reply to:
That's right James, cheer us all up why don't ya 
A small point: not everyone likes being called by their real-life names on these boards, even if the name does appear in a person's profile. That's why we have these things called "usernames".
Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal
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FastChanges (electric tomato)
07/31/05 05:02 PM
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Yes, but Anthony needs that intimacy.
I'll have a small port, thank you. Greedy, Madam! For most people one sailor would be enough.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/01/05 07:38 AM
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In reply to:
A small point: not everyone likes being called by their real-life names on these boards
Why not open yet another poll and let's see Sys, for goodness sakes when someone tells me they don't like their name being used! then I shall stop it, you are coming across as a nag Sys 
Oh and Clude Im very pleased you got two tickets 
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Sysiyo (thunder ocean)
08/01/05 11:02 AM
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Being a nag seems to be my job here these days.
I happen to know that several users in addition to myself dislike this habit. Some people don't mind it, others do; you can't make a general rule about using or not using people's real names. It might be advisable to use a person's real name only if you know the person in question does not object to your using it.
Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal Edited by Sysiyo on 08/01/05 11:04 AM (server time).
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/01/05 11:45 AM
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In reply to:
It might be advisable to use a person's real name only if you know the person in question does not object to your using it.
And to the best of my knowledge? that is excatly what I do.
I really couldn't care less how people address me, sure I like my real name from members who want to use it, other than that "usernames" it shall be 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Vanessa_Y (kook)
08/01/05 04:08 PM
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..Thats why..mine may be unoriginal, but its my name, and i like my name..so...ya know, no questions asked, simple.
" If we're all gods children..whats so special about Jesus? " Vanessa
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zigbot (stardust savant)
08/01/05 08:38 PM
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Sooooooooooooo . . . is this Fashion Rocks thingy broadcast on US TV? If so, what channel? What time?
Nice to see Bowie back--regardless of what he sings.
zigbot
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/01/05 08:57 PM
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I believe last years version was aired on A&E at one time or another.
bfp
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carsten (kook)
08/03/05 09:57 AM
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Firstly this is great news and about time too, Im not so sure he'll just go along with singing Fashion, Im sure this be a glimpse of the new Bowie, the Bowie that will hopefully tour next year, as for the song he'll sing? well he could just surprise us all with a new song and not "( She Can ) Do That", maybe it's my wishful thinking.
I guess so. Maybe they will just show last year's "Fashion" video again?
/Carsten
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russellmael (electric tomato)
08/03/05 10:50 AM
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I just hope he hasn't been reduced to a lopsided feeble old man following his heart ~thing~.
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Vanessa_Y (kook)
08/03/05 05:52 PM
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Yes; I REALLY hope he is healthy and ok...but I wouldnt be suprised if it did have an effect on him-he is human, despite what it seems some people belief; and he wasnt exactly young...
I suppose all we can do is hope for the best and see...
" If we're all gods children..whats so special about Jesus? " Vanessa
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russellmael (electric tomato)
08/04/05 06:07 AM
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When I wrote that, it did actually ram it home how horrid it would be to see Bowie just deteriorate... crumb to death over the next couple of years. I'm a cynical git, but that would break my heart.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/04/05 06:56 AM
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In reply to:
I'm a cynical git, but that would break my heart.
Boy it would break my heart too but I don't think Bowie would ever perform if he thought he wasn't giving it his best shot.
I've mentioned this before but look at Sinatra, the guy was very old but still had that Charisma, style and fantastic voice, as long as his voice holds out? I can see Bowie going on for a long time yet.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
08/04/05 07:58 AM
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To be honest, Sinatra's voice started to go in the mid 80s, my mother has a set of videos and in a concert in 1982 he sings New York New York and hits the high notes at the end, in 1985 in Japan, the whole section is removed as he can no longer hit them. Obviously by this stage Sinatra was getting on so it is no suprise. One day I would like to see Bowie do a final televised concert where he sings a mixture of well loved favourites and some things he has never sung, or rarely sung. Then says, that's it. Then his memory can be untarnished by comebacks and embarrasing appearances. Dignity is valuable.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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russellmael (electric tomato)
08/04/05 08:09 AM
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...but you just know it would be shit, no matter how emotional it ~should~ be.
''Remember when he finished his retirement show by playing 'I'm Afraid Of Americans'? ... not a dry eye in the house.''
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/04/05 08:11 AM
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Yeah I've got those concerts on DVD, I do know what you mean but boy he still looks the part eh? Only one Sinatra and only one Bowie, he did record two albums with other singers very late in his career and the albums were big hits, you may remember the Duets albums? he recorded a really FAB version of "I've Got You Under My Skin" with Bono and the accompanying video was just brilliant.
Duets Vol.1
Duets Vol.2
Im not so sure about the idea of a final television concert, the idea sounds nice I grant you, but can you really see Bowie caving in to such a meduim as mass appeal television?
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
08/04/05 08:52 AM
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Well what I was thinking of was a final farewell live concert that was shown live. He used TV for his birthday and he also appeared on Storytellers.
Let's not be snobby about TV now 
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/04/05 09:01 AM
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In reply to:
Well what I was thinking of was a final farewell live concert that was shown live. He used TV for his birthday and he also appeared on Storytellers.
Were they both mainstream television companies or cable? and I agree both are FAB.
In reply to:
Let's not be snobby about TV now 
Television has a terrible name now you have to admit that? but I think maybe a very special MTV or VH1 company could handle this well.
What of the comeback concert "Old Odd Eyes is Back" ITV or BBC 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
08/04/05 09:05 AM
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Give it to MTV and it would be all style and no content, Let the BBC do it, no adverts, straight concert.
Storytellers was VH1, the birthday concert was pay tv in the states and on BBC2 over here.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/04/05 09:13 AM
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In reply to:
Let the BBC do it, no adverts, straight concert
Granted the idea does sound lovely, but I wouldn't want it to end This might sound daft to you but I cannot imagine a world without Bowie performing/recording, good lord it's been an enormous part of my life this past 30 years.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
08/04/05 09:19 AM
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So you would prefer him to become an embarrasment? I would prefer a dignified exit myself..
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/04/05 10:33 AM
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So you would prefer him to become an embarrasment? I would prefer a dignified exit myself..
Such as whom?
I think Bowie himself will know when to exit the show business world, perhaps you and I see him differently Alan, to me he wasn't an artist I stumbled across in the early 80s, he's been in my sound/vision life since I was 10 years old.
It's not just his music or his image for me, It's the whole package.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
08/04/05 10:40 AM
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You said you wanted him to go on forever. That is not an option, so I would prefer him to some time in the not so soon future to call it a day and to go out with a bang. And what is all this stumbling on him in the 80s crap? I have been a fan for 22 year, I EVEN bought Tin Machine 
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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russellmael (electric tomato)
08/04/05 10:44 AM
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I make that '83? Wasn't that in the 80's? ;o)
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
08/04/05 10:49 AM
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Alas it seems if I didn't get Starman with my pocket money in 1972, I am not a proper fan...
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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russellmael (electric tomato)
08/04/05 10:55 AM
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...you would've loved to have seen me trying to work out what 2005 minus 22 was.
It's funny.. all those old fans who went to the Ziggy tour with sun discs on their heads. Where are they now? I assume they jumped ship when the Bay City Rollers came along. Longevity means nothing.
(Though you know where I draw the line with newbies!)
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/04/05 10:59 AM
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In reply to:
I EVEN bought Tin Machine 
In reply to:
I am not a proper fan...
I rest my case 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/04/05 02:00 PM
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<<Sinatra>>
Frank apparently drank scotch and smoked right up until his death. Even though his doctors told him otherwise. His habits even made him functially blind via cataracts.
I'm sure his lifestyle would have had an adverse affect on his vocal range.
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/04/05 02:30 PM
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In reply to:
Frank apparently drank scotch and smoked right up until his death
He drank Jack Daniels and smoked Lucky Strike Cigarettes up until his death, he was even buried with a bottle of Jack Daniels in his coffin and a pack of the cigs.
In reply to:
I'm sure his lifestyle would have had an adverse affect on his vocal range.
For sure it did but nobody cared, he was Frank Sinatra and sounded great just grumbling almost, Sinatra had that certain special style like Bowie has, some do, some don't.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/04/05 07:51 PM
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Just before he quit touring Frank had 3 teleprompters onstage. He was also doing really bad mistakes like forgetting the chorus to "New York, New York".
I think his family was annoyed that he didn't quit any of his vices.
Similarly, BB King's doctor told him to re-arrange his diet if he wanted to performed for years to come. This meant no more fired chicken.
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/05/05 07:24 AM
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In reply to:
I think his family was annoyed that he didn't quit any of his vices.
In a way I suppose I can understand the families thoughts, but to deny Sinatra these pleasures I fear would have killed him much earlier simply through boredom, that was his lifestyle and his life.
How ever he ended up be it with teleprompters etc... he was still Mr Cool and bloody great.
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/05/05 05:00 PM
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Did anybody here ever see Frank in person?
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/06/05 09:18 AM
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In reply to:
Did anybody here ever see Frank in person?
Phew! the tickets were way too expensive when I last saw some advertized years ago, but it would be nice if any of the older members could let us know.
Watched an excellent docu on Sinatra on BBC the other night, yet again linking him to the mafia, but I couldn't care less to me Sinatra was the Bowie of his day *untouchable* 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/06/05 01:13 PM
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Frank had Vegas/Opera styled pricing for is shows in the 80's and 90's.
I have a couple FS cds and Bios, but one thing that bugged me was what he said about Elvis presley in the 50's. That one quote has dated poorly.
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/06/05 03:21 PM
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I've got quite a lot of Sinatra's CDs and some DVDs, well a shelf full actually, I adore the guy such class/style 
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but one thing that bugged me was what he said about Elvis presley in the 50's. That one quote has dated poorly.
You're gonna have to refresh my memory please Peter, I seem to have forgotten what Sinatra said about Elvis.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/06/05 04:38 PM
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"Rock 'n Roll smells phony and false. It is sung, played and written for the most part by cretinous goons.... and by means of it's imbecilic reiteration and sly, lewd - in fact, plain dirty - lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every sideburned delinquent on the face of the earth. it is the most brutal, ugly, desperate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear"
Frank Sinatra, 1957
(The Elvis quote I was thinking of was from a vancouver Sun interview from around this time period)
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
08/06/05 04:42 PM
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Ironic, when the same things were probably said about him by the parents of the 'bobbysoxers' who would go wild wherever he went in the early days.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/06/05 04:49 PM
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It's also ironic that sinatra had Elvis on his tv show in 1960.
Sinatra also called Bowie a "limey fag", but that quote only be a 2nd hand source.
bfp
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Claude (big brother)
08/06/05 05:09 PM
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BOWIE is the modern crooner.......just like Sinatra during his era............
___________________ Claude
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/06/05 06:29 PM
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Why does Bowie put his voice through filters?
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russellmael (electric tomato)
08/08/05 04:24 AM
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I was just preparing to go into the Sinatra monologue by the limo driver in Spinal Tap. But can't be bothered.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/08/05 06:15 AM
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In reply to:
Sinatra also called Bowie a "limey fag", but that quote only be a 2nd hand source.
On that famous so-called quote of Bowie, I don't know if its true either? but would love to find out, the story goes as far as I can remember...
Sinatra was asked if he would mind that Bowie portrayed him in a film, apparently Sinatra replied back with "Im not having that fucking creepy wierdo fag playing me" I'm sure over the years these words have become exaggerated as do most.
Enjoyed the quote about Rock'n'Roll 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Claude (big brother)
08/09/05 09:23 AM
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http://www.vogue.co.uk/vogue_daily/story/story.asp?stid=28110
___________________ Claude
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/09/05 09:34 AM
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In reply to:
Destiny's Child, who have said that their appearance will be their final televised performance ever
Something to look forward too 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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dukewhite (stealing for that one good rush)
08/10/05 06:52 PM
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In reply to:
Zigbot: Sooooooooooooo . . . is this Fashion Rocks thingy broadcast on US TV? If so, what channel? What time?
According to Bnet, it will air the next day (9/9) on CBS at 9:00 pm.
In reply to:
BFP: I believe last years version was aired on A&E at one time or another.
It did indeed. I was working there at the time, and have a near-master quality recording of it that I can put on DVD if anyone's interested.
In reply to:
Claude: I got two tickets for the show!!!!! and so my wife and me will be there.......in NEW YORK!!!!! I have never seen New York.....so I will stay there for a week!!!!
I got myself a single ticket (in the far balcony--no more front row for me, I'm afraid.) I'll see you there, Claude!
Oh, and yes, this reemergence of Bowie to the stage might just be enough to bring me out of semi-retirement, assuming the news continues...
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/11/05 01:14 PM
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This from Bowienet just now...
There's no smoke without Arcade Fire, You're exactly who I want to be with...
Speaking of Montreal, (see yesterday's news) rumours abound that David Bowie will be backed by Montreal outfit The Arcade Fire at Fashion Rocks in New York next month. (07.27.05 NEWS: DB WILL PLAY FASHION ROCKS AT RADIO CITY)
Well, if it's true that some things are worth waiting for, I think you'll agree that David Bowie and The Arcade Fire together onstage would definitely be one of those things. Therefore, you'll just have to wait and see!
Who likes the idea of Bowie performing with the Arcade Fire? and why.
In reply to:
Why does Bowie put his voice through filters?
I think Lennon did the very same thing, that and multi-tracked vocals, I've heard Beatles fans say this is because Lennon didn't like his own voice.
Extra 'n's courtesy of Sys 
London Bye Ta-Ta...  Edited by diamondogz74 on 08/11/05 01:46 PM (server time).
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Sysiyo (thunder ocean)
08/11/05 01:27 PM
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Lennon, two "n"s in the middle.
I for one like filtered vocals very much. They make a vocal delivery much more interesting.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/11/05 01:49 PM
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In reply to:
I for one like filtered vocals very much. They make a vocal delivery much more interesting.
DITTO 
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Pablo-Picasso (crash course raver)
08/11/05 01:51 PM
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As a rule I don't mind treated vocals, however, I find them very irritating on some of the hours tracks.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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Sysiyo (thunder ocean)
08/11/05 02:00 PM
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Like with everything in music, treated vocals can be used well or poorly. And like almost every feature on Hours, they have been executed poorly.
Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal
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FastChanges (electric tomato)
08/11/05 02:41 PM
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I found it hard to listen to "Zoo station" in the beginning, but I got used to it rapidly. Then I loved it.
One thought-murder a day keeps the psychiatrist away.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/11/05 02:56 PM
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In reply to:
As a rule I don't mind treated vocals, however, I find them very irritating on some of the hours tracks.
It has always been my dream that Bowie recorded an album using Phil Spector as producer or even Brian Wilson, can you imagine the sound? Bowie's vocals would be heaven, one day maybe or is it too late now?
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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zigbot (stardust savant)
08/11/05 03:03 PM
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Ha ha . . . the return of the thin white duke. Good to see you about, dukewhite! Enjoy the show! I, for one, would love to see you come out of semi-retirement.
Cheers,
zigbot
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/11/05 07:25 PM
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Arcade Fire do their second ever live TV appearance.....and they do a duet with Bowie!!!
I wonder if it will be a new DB song, old DB, cover, AF song or a new AF song?
bfp
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dukewhite (stealing for that one good rush)
08/11/05 07:27 PM
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semi-retirement? It's just been over a year. He's gone longer than that before. To you and I who devoted months of our lives to his last tour, I guess it does seem like that to an extent.
As for Arcade Fire, I had heard rumors for some time, but official word is nice. I am excited. While I like AF a reasonable amount, I am mainly excited to hear Bowie with a different band than the one I've heard the last 18 times I've seen him. I don't think a whole show with AF would be good, but for one song, it will be fun. I saw the Flaming Lips play backup to Beck in 2003 and it added an extra element to the music, so I am anxious to see how this effects Bowie.
I am no longer an active member of Teenage Wildlife
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poorsoul (you will pay mr jones)
08/12/05 03:26 AM
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In reply to:
It has always been my dream that Bowie recorded an album using Phil Spector as producer
Well, he will be needing something to occupy his time in gaol.
Thrush
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b_mardle (wild eyed peoploid)
08/12/05 02:18 PM
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I was watching the film, 'seven' a couple of days ago and i was shocked to hear 'the heart's filthy lesson' in the finishing titles! A fantastic track for a fantastic movie. They should haved used 'a small plot of land' also...
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/12/05 02:34 PM
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In reply to:
I wonder if it will be a new DB song, old DB, cover, AF song or a new AF song?
I questioned this earlier in this thread and was told it would have to be a well known song, because of the audience, I don't agree with this idea at all, why can't he sing a brand new song? perfectly reasonable to me.
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Well, he will be needing something to occupy his time in gaol.
Only IF and thats a big IF in america these days with celebrity court cases.
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FastChanges (crash course raver)
08/12/05 03:37 PM
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Yes, it fits the movie perfectly. It's the only song that's not on the soundtrack album, though.
The symphonic piece by Bach for the library scene is a very good choice too.
One thought-murder a day keeps the psychiatrist away.
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zigbot (stardust savant)
08/12/05 04:32 PM
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Duke! I wasn't saying BOWIE is in semi-retirement, I was saying YOU are in semi-retirement given your sparse attendance here at TW. It's good to have you back!
As for Arcade Fire and Bowie teaming up . . . I'm not so thrilled. Here's what I posted about it at BWW after someone suggested how much Arcade Fire would benefit from having Bowie perform with them and how Bowie's "patronage" of the band have benefitted them: ________________________________ OK, I have a different spin on the Bowie/AF thing.
I had read a bunch of very positive (gushing, even) reviews of AF's Funeral in a number of music mags, but what made me go get the album was Bowie's endorsement (gushing as it was, as well).
But the "average" AF fan is not a Bowie fanatic in his/her 40s. So, I highly doubt Bowie's "patronage" has meant squat to AF's young fans.
I'm fine if they team up for one-off thing, but I, like Spidey, don't want to see them mix it up too much together. I adore AF, and I adore Bowie, but I wonder if the PERCEPTION by younger fans (or by cynical Bowie fans) might be along the lines of what many thought when Bowie collaborated with NIN a while back: "There goes Bowie again, the aging rocker affixing himself to the coattails of the up-and-coming hipsters in his relentless and pathetic effort to remain 'relevant'."
I don't want to hear that shit, so I don't want them to team up.
And if Bowie actually SINGS an AF song with AF as backing band on Fashion Rocks, it isn't AF who benefit in my view. It's Bowie. And if he does this, so help me God, much as I love the man, he will be making himself AF's BITCH! If AF provided instrumentation for his performance of one of his OWN songs, that's fine. But if he sings one of THEIR songs, he's merely a "guest vocalist" on a performance that is duly and rightly THEIR performance, not his own. ________________
zigbot
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/12/05 08:25 PM
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<<gotta be a well known song>>
That's 95% true, but what did Bjork do in 2003?
I think it's going to be a cover song ie: Bowie/Placebo-20th Century Boy, DB/Bono-Gloria, DB/Morrissey-Cosmic Dancer.
I imagine AF will do 2 songs, one alone and one with Bowie. AF are also doing a Letterman appearance the same month.
Zig,
In every article I've seen about AF, Bowie has been mentioned. Bowie was hip to them, perhaps before Funeral was released in North America - I'm not even sure the album had US distribution.
I would say AF have about as much to gain as DB. The saddest thing is I doubt this show would touch AF without a celebrity cameo of some kind. Remember the Grammy's demanding a OK Computer era radiohead do a duet with Bowie?
I cannot recall Leno ever touching an indie(DIY) act as a musical guest.
As for the NIN/DB tour - I would say Bowie was the highlight of the night and few open minded poeple have disputed that. And I've been vocal about Bowie's attempts to remain hip(**moby who?**) I'm in the NIN/Moby demographic.
When I think of vintage rockers trying to be hip, I think of Jimmy Page performing with Lymp Bizzkyt, Santana performing with Everlast or Stevie Wonder performing with Will Smith.
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/13/05 07:09 AM
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In reply to:
or Stevie Wonder performing with Will Smith
Or even this bunch 

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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/13/05 07:59 AM
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He also did that disney tune with jessica simpson's husband
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/13/05 08:12 AM
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He also did that disney tune with jessica simpson's husband
I'd quite forgotten that, I wonder why ( no pun intended ) he feels it necessary to do these bit part acts? the guy is a genius and really doesn't need this baggage around his career.
I thought that record he made with Paul McCartney "Ebony and Ivory" was atroucious, now McCartney has sadly become a joke, I do not want this happening to Stevie Wonder and most definately not to Mr Bowie, Bowie does not need to appear with the AF, I would prefer him to just be himself and not hang around with these 9 day wonder groups.
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
08/13/05 08:28 AM
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I think Stevie Wonder became a joke when he sang ' I just called to say I love you'. He seems to have run out of ideas for the last 20 years or so, he is hardly prolific.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/13/05 08:35 AM
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In reply to:
' I just called to say I love you'.
That was chronic I concur, but you cannot tarnish a persons career over one lousy song, If that were the case? then everyone would become a laughing stock.
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
08/13/05 08:37 AM
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But what has he done of note since?
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/13/05 08:51 AM
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But what has he done of note since?
I say give the guy a break, he has recorded many fine albums and influenced thousands of aspiring young musicians, what is of note to others may not appeal to all, It's all a matter of personal taste, he has this new album coming out soon...
A Time 2 Love
But alas there will only ever be one of these
He has gone through a dull period but i'm sure his glory days are not over yet.
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poorsoul (you will pay mr jones)
08/13/05 10:20 PM
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I thought that record he made with Paul McCartney "Ebony and Ivory" was atroucious
Racist.
Thrush
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HopFrog (grinning soul)
08/14/05 06:49 AM
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*daydreams of Bowie's 2006 Contamination Tour with support act The Arcade Fire*
Well... ...it could happen.
Project cancelled Tumbling central Red Money
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/14/05 07:57 AM
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Racist.
I prefer the word *tasteless* 
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Claude (big brother)
08/16/05 05:11 PM
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Glad to meet you! 
___________________ Claude
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GoldenBoy (grinning soul)
08/22/05 02:32 AM
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roB thomas is kind of hot but not ass hot as bowie.
David Bowie is the sexiest man on the planet.
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tonyinsf (crash course raver)
08/24/05 00:05 AM
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Bowie is getting in shape for it.
small story
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ArdentDesir (electric tomato)
08/24/05 11:25 AM
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"Hier ŕ Nantes, avant un concert ŕ l'Olympic, le chanteur d'Arcade Fire Win Butler a confirmé le "duo" entre Bowie et son groupe le 8/9 ŕ New York pour le Fashion Rocks. Il a précisé que le titre joué serait soit Queen Bitch soit Five years"
Yesterday in Nantes, before a concert at the Olympic, Arcade Fire singer Win Butler confirmed the duet between Bowie and his band on the 8th of september for "Fashion Rocks". He said that the song played would either be "queen Bitch" or " Five Years"
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/24/05 01:04 PM
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In reply to:
either be "queen Bitch" or " Five Years"
Not highly original but better than "Fashion" again, my money is on "Five Years" much the better vocal wise.
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ArdentDesir (electric tomato)
08/24/05 05:09 PM
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Oh, i think It'll be Queen Bitch! ;)
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/25/05 06:47 AM
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Oh, i think It'll be Queen Bitch! ;)
Only time will tell be nice if they could sing them both, I'm still sticking with "Five Years" because it will stretch them vocally, let's see who wins 
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
08/25/05 07:39 AM
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Don't you think the more upbeat queen bitch would be a better crowd pleaser though? Five years is a pretty depressing song on its' own.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/25/05 07:54 AM
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Don't you think the more upbeat queen bitch would be a better crowd pleaser though? Five years is a pretty depressing song on its' own.
To be honest with you Alan I couldn't give a toss about crowd pleasers, I'm thinking what would stretch them vocally as an act, If all the acts are performing crowd pleasers to simply perform another would be boring IMO.
No I find "Five Years" a most lovely song, not at all depressing to me.
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
08/25/05 08:16 AM
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Maybe you wouldn't care about crowd pleasers, but with you (and me) he is preaching to the converted, HOWEVER, at this event, there will be a large portion of the audience, who are NOT hard core Bowie fans, and he has to please them as much as us (moreso, as they are in attendance). Five years, although a great song, takes its' time to get going and is (and this isn't putting it down) a bit dirgelike, to the non-converted. Whereas Queen bitch can be a high powered, rocking track, guaranteed to get people excited. If one song is all he has, on his first live appearance in over a year, he wants to make people prick up their ears and put down their flutes of Champagne.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/25/05 08:50 AM
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So we're talking business here not art?
Surely someone with as much standing as Bowie can sing what he pleases? Bowie has built his career of being not run of the mill, I do realize he is attempting to please a bunch of fashion police though.
I hope he doesn't end up doing gigs like this forever more, to me it is boring.
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Emil (acolyte)
08/25/05 08:52 AM
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haven't the two of you had exactly the same exchange once before? Or is this just a false déjŕ vu phenomenon on my behalf?
I'm sorry I ate your fish!
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/25/05 08:58 AM
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In reply to:
haven't the two of you had exactly the same exchange once before?
Probably
In reply to:
Or is this just a false déjŕ vu phenomenon on my behalf?
Possibly 
Nowt wrong with good healthy discussion 
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
08/25/05 09:00 AM
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One song at a fashion event cannot be considered art can it? Of course he can choose what he sings, if not he would be doing Let's Dance after all. Either song is a little adventurous, a lot of the audience may have not heard it before. But you have got to accomodate an audience, it is different if it is your own show, but this isn't, Bowie, is just one of the turns.
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
08/25/05 09:04 AM
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Why is Arcade Fire making it's major US TV debut singing someone else's song? Or will they be doing one of their own?
I vote towards 5 Years - it's fits in better with what AF does best, and there's less Bowie footage of that song.
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/25/05 09:07 AM
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In reply to:
One song at a fashion event cannot be considered art can it?
It is in my world.
In reply to:
Bowie, is just one of the turns.
THE WHEELTAPPERS AND SHUNTERS SOCIAL CLUB VARIETY SHOW

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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/25/05 09:12 AM
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In reply to:
I vote towards 5 Years - it's fits in better with what AF does best, and there's less Bowie footage of that song.
Horray! 
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CharlieManson (wild eyed peoploid)
08/25/05 09:23 AM
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Fucking hell, is this how bad it has got, squabbling over which song he's gonna do? Like he is gonna take any notice of you lot!
But the way Doltz, it isn't a vote, he has prolly decided by now!!!
I'll slash them cold, I'll kill them dead I'll break them gooks, I'll crack their heads I'll slice them till they're running red But now I've got the running gun blues
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russellmael (electric tomato)
08/25/05 09:34 AM
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*I vote towards 5 Years - it's fits in better with what AF does best, and there's less Bowie footage of that song.*
Ermmm...
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
08/25/05 09:36 AM
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In reply to:
Fucking hell, is this how bad it has got, squabbling over which song he's gonna do?
Yeah pathetic ain't it Charlie me old mucker thing is with Bowie news per se so thin on the ground, we have no other choice than to squabble, so there *raspberry*
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Claude (big brother)
09/05/05 02:47 PM
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OMG! I'm so sad! I cannot go to the Show! I sold my tickets! 
---------------------- Claude
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/05/05 03:01 PM
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In reply to:
OMG! I'm so sad! I cannot go to the Show! I sold my tickets! 
Why on earth would you do this Claude, are you ill?
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Claude (big brother)
09/05/05 03:05 PM
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Damned work!! 
---------------------- Claude
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/05/05 03:13 PM
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In reply to:
Damned work!! 
Shame, still there is the consolation that you may have made a small profit on selling them?
Was it eBay or to a friend?
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Claude (big brother)
09/05/05 03:20 PM
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....to a friend at the same price......
---------------------- Claude
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/05/05 03:29 PM
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....to a friend at the same price......
Then that makes you a very nice person, It is not nice to exploit ones friends 
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dukewhite (stealing for that one good rush)
09/05/05 10:47 PM
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Sad to not get to meet you at the show. I'll tell Bowie you said "hi," though.
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BigFatDog (kook)
09/08/05 04:07 AM
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Fucking hell, I bet "hi" would be the last thing Claude would say to him. Tell Bowie that Claude said "I am nice meeting us, can we lick your spunky rim?"
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"Hating Bowie in 1997 means hating everything overblown, theatrical, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual and jarringly progressive in the past 25 years of pop. In other words, everything great about pop. It also means hating yourself."
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/08/05 04:10 AM
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That is great bullshit.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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Nature_Boy (crash course raver)
09/08/05 07:17 AM
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does anyone know if this is being broadcast on UK tv?
Its about time I had a signature
The Thin White Duke: David Bowie Tribute Band
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/08/05 07:24 AM
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In reply to:
does anyone know if this is being broadcast on UK tv?
The whole event? I doubt it but we should see some footage tomorrow morning on the entertainment section of sky news interactive.
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/08/05 07:36 AM
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It is on Channel four at some point, but someone I know is recording it, when he has it on his site I will let you all know, in the meantime you can download the interview from the serious moonlight videos there.
Mist. Enter the site and click on downloads.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/08/05 07:48 AM
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In reply to:
but someone I know is recording it, when he has it on his site I will let you all know

In reply to:
can download the interview from the serious moonlight videos there
Wonderful thanks Alan.
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Claude (big brother)
09/08/05 01:24 PM
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http://www.cbs.com/specials/fashion_rocks/
---------------------- Claude
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/08/05 01:46 PM
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Thank you so much Claude 
I'm really excited at the prospect of Bowie performing again after what seems like an eternity.
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dukewhite (stealing for that one good rush)
09/09/05 02:33 AM
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Just got back form the show and an afterparty with a ton of Bnetters. It was a lame show overall, but that's to be expected from any multi-artist extravaganza coming out of the states these days. there was very little rocking, and even less fashion. Anyway, after suffering through Destiny's Child and Joss Stone and Rob Thomas, Bowie came on. First he did an amazing version of Life on Mars? with just him and Mike Garson. Absolutely stunning. Then there were some other artists and I was bored. Then Arcade Fire and Bowie performed Five Years and it was wonderful to hear the classic with the new instrumentation brought by AF's various constituants (mainly the violins and cello.) I thought that would be it, but then they did the AF song Wake Up with Bowie singing lead. It was the highlight of the night and definitely the song that rocked the most. I feel bad for AF, though. In what I think is their first US television performance, they don't even sing their own song--one of the most established artists around does it instead. I hope they get the recognition they deserve from it, though. After that it was pretty much crap. I hung around to see Billy Idol, but he was a major disappointment. It's worth watching on tv, but I'd advise taping it and fastforwarding through everything but Bowie, Duran Duran, Gwen Stefani, and maybe Shakira, if only t osee her shake her sexy thang. I will have it recorded and on DVD (assuming all goes well with the recording) if anyone can't see it and wants to.
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/09/05 06:24 AM
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<<life on mars? Garson and Bowie duet>>
Wow!!!
<<5 years>>
Who was singing?
<<first US television>>
USA network TV. AF also do Letterman next(?) week. They did some minor american music news show, plus some MuchMusic thing that would have been seen in american homes.
<<Shakira>>
One of the very few things that made the VMAs worthwhile.
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 07:55 AM
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I am over the moon that Bowie is back, not only back but back in FULL BOWIE swing, he decides to enter into Oliver Twist character for "Life On Mars?" this is the BOWIE i've been wanting for some time, not the reality, but the surreal where he belongs 

You better look out below!
David Bowie returned to the concert stage this evening for the Fashion Rocks show at Radio City Music Hall in New York, and he stole the show with trademark cool and unmatched passion.
First up, Alicia Keys introduced our man for an emotionally charged rendition of Life On Mars?. His voice sounded stronger than ever and he looked strangely surreal, but nevertheless stunning with a blackened right eye and a bandaged left hand.
David was dressed in a charcoal grey suit by new American designer, Thom Browne, with matching grey tie and white shirt and a stars n stripes lapel pin. (see detail below, all pix kindly supplied by Kevin Mazur of WireImage.com) The overall strangeness of David's appearance was completed with trousers that don't go quite all the way down...you know, Oliver Twist length.
Mike Garson accompanied DB for this sublime performance of Life On Mars?, which echoed the similarly brilliant version the pair performed at the Yahoo Internet Music Awards in July 2000. David and Mike left the stage to thunderous applause and a standing ovation, leaving no doubt that Bowie was back in tremendous style.
 
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Emil (acolyte)
09/09/05 08:39 AM
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I'm sorry I ate your fish!
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 08:45 AM
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Except that one is a burnt out fag 
Just look at Bowie's magnificence...

My hair will change this afternoon 
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/09/05 08:46 AM
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I really don't think Gwen's 'do' will suit you Anthony, although, please show results.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 08:52 AM
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In reply to:
I really don't think Gwen's 'do' will suit you Anthony, although, please show results.
Stomach now aching with laughter   
Shelle described you as having a bite, I second that 
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SoulLoveChild (acolyte)
09/09/05 08:57 AM
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Whatcha waiting whatcha waiting whatcha waiting whatcha waiting whatcha waiting whatcha waiting FOR?????
HOT DAMN!! 
Get Bowie Back Downunder! GBBD 2005 !!!!
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/09/05 09:02 AM
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And this is one of me with my good friends on Holiday in Turkey

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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 09:07 AM
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WICKED! 
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/09/05 09:11 AM
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By the way, looking at the signs I can see where you get your spelling lessons.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 09:22 AM
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In reply to:
By the way, looking at the signs I can see where you get your spelling lessons.
I wrote those signs for the restaurant NO kidding.
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/09/05 09:27 AM
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why the wrist-brace on Sir David?
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/09/05 09:30 AM
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For the song he also had a black eye, not sure exactly why.

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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 09:35 AM
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In reply to:
For the song he also had a black eye, not sure exactly why.
"Take a look at the Lawman Beating up the wrong guy"
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/09/05 09:39 AM
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Well he has managed to sing it for the last 33 years without it 
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 09:42 AM
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In reply to:
Well he has managed to sing it for the last 33 years without it 
Changes.
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Nature_Boy (crash course raver)
09/09/05 09:44 AM
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Has anyone found a picture full length, with the supposed "too short" trousers?
Maybe Bowie is making a visual commentary on the Fashion Industry, or something.
Its about time I had a signature
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Claude (big brother)
09/09/05 09:54 AM
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Thanx for the report!!! 
---------------------- Claude
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/09/05 09:58 AM
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<<too short trousers>>
is the proper term "flood pants"?
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 09:58 AM
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In reply to:
Has anyone found a picture full length, with the supposed "too short" trousers?
Maybe Bowie is making a visual commentary on the Fashion Industry, or something.
I am looking, the whole performance of "Life On Mars?" was making many statements to the world, even down to this lapel pin...

This the Bowie I remember, truly the man who sold the world.
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/09/05 10:07 AM
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Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/09/05 10:10 AM
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Is the AF singer from Texas?
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/09/05 10:12 AM
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Motreal I think.
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/09/05 10:17 AM
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IIRC,he went to college in Montreal, but originated from Texas.
I was curious as to what part of Texas.
The violinist is from Vancouver.
I also find the choice of "Wake Up" interesting since it wasn't one of their first 2 singles/videos. But it was used as the warm up song before u2 hits the stage this year.
bfp
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Claude (big brother)
09/09/05 11:09 AM
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---------------------- Claude
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Lorenzo (mortal with potential)
09/09/05 11:31 AM
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------------------------ Lorenzo
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Claude (big brother)
09/09/05 11:42 AM
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Wow!!! Thank you Lorenzo, those pics are terrifics!!!!
---------------------- Claude
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zimmo (wild eyed peoploid)
09/09/05 12:46 PM
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he looks like mr bean
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/09/05 01:41 PM
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Re: He should put some jam on his shoes
[re: Claude]
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FANTASTIC pictures Claude and Lorenzo 
And I notice Mr Bowie is still wearing his crucifix 
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Shoes (wild eyed peoploid)
09/09/05 04:22 PM
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Re: He should put some jam on his shoes
[re: Claude]
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I love love love that picture of David hugging Lisa Marie, she looks so happy and herself .... she's been sorta getting lost lately in between her mother and her daughter.. iman almost looks like a hangar-on! lol
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Claude (big brother)
09/09/05 04:46 PM
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Tony, I think he never cast off the crucifix!
---------------------- Claude
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SoulLoveChild (acolyte)
09/09/05 05:30 PM
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Is it just me, or do those pants look really weird? His lower half looks like a garden gnome 
I'd love to see a different shot of them to see if he is wearing shoes or not. It certainly is an immaculate suit, and I was surprised to see the crucifx back on, haven't seen it in ages.

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dukewhite (stealing for that one good rush)
09/09/05 06:06 PM
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Re: He should put some jam on his shoes
[re: Shoes]
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In reply to:
that picture of David hugging Lisa Marie .. Iman almost looks like a hangar-on!
I don't see any pictures of either of them.
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SoulLoveChild (acolyte)
09/09/05 06:24 PM
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http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1126263457.GIF
Get Bowie Back Downunder! GBBD 2005 !!!!
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Claude (big brother)
09/09/05 07:04 PM
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---------------------- Claude
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Claude (big brother)
09/09/05 07:16 PM
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---------------------- Claude
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dukewhite (stealing for that one good rush)
09/09/05 11:13 PM
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So they left Five Years out of the televised broadcast. Good thing they had the time to still include the Joss Stone/Rob Thomas duet. If it hadn't been for Bowie and my having been at the taping, I would have turned that shit off almost immediately. Mark McGrath and Poppy Montgmery were the worst hosts I've ever seen for any events like this. What a shambles. Bowie was wonderful, though, and I guess that makes it ok.
I have the show on DVD, like I mentioned I might, if anyone wants to see it that didn't get a chance.
I am no longer an active member of Teenage Wildlife
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/10/05 01:10 AM
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Maybe '5 Years' will be run on the rebroadcast on other channels.
Or hope there was a taper in the audience.
bfp
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Claude (big brother)
09/10/05 05:52 AM
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In reply to:
I have the show on DVD, like I mentioned I might, if anyone wants to see it that didn't get a chance.
Can you share the DVD? It would be very appreciated. Thank you.
---------------------- Claude
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/10/05 06:21 AM
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http://www.mist001.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bowarc.wmv
and
http://www.mist001.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/lom.wmv
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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Sam_X (wild eyed peoploid)
09/10/05 06:49 AM
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*bows deeply*
"I can kill you!" ~ Claude
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/10/05 08:22 AM
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I know it's probably gonna take me five years to access these on my dialup connection, but thank you so much Alan 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Claude (big brother)
09/10/05 08:50 AM
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Wonderful!!!! Thank you, Alan!
---------------------- Claude
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/10/05 08:59 AM
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Well it is down to BillyPorter and Mist001 really from BWW.
Wake up is fabulous 
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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Claude (big brother)
09/10/05 09:23 AM
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In reply to:
Wake up is fabulous
Yeah! That live version of Life on Mars? is fantastic too! Garson is great!
---------------------- Claude
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Patches (cracked actor)
09/10/05 10:13 AM
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In reply to:
duekwhite: If it hadn't been for Bowie [...] would have turned that shit off almost immediately. [...] Bowie was wonderful, though, and I guess that makes it ok.
I agree with you, dukewhite. I thought the show was shit. I Enjoyed watching Bowie and Billy Idol. However, I was not too pleased with everything else. Unfortunately, I too, have the show on DVD. If I knew it was going to be shit, I wouldn 't have taped it.
__________________________________________ Jareth's speech: Love Me, Fear Me, Do as I say, and I will be your slave. Heathen track: Show me who you are And I would be your slave Coincidence? I think not.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/10/05 10:28 AM
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Wonderful I have both these video's saved now and can view them over and over 
Simply adore "Life On Mars?" wonderful rendition and fab video ( yes I love the long shorts ) 
"Wake Up" is a new song to me but great none the less.
I am very chuffed.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/10/05 10:29 AM
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I thought you had Funeral by the Arcade fire?
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/10/05 10:37 AM
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In reply to:
I thought you had Funeral by the Arcade fire?
Alas no I do not how could I let this slip my library of wonderful music, I truly had no idea how brilliant they were and are.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Claude (big brother)
09/10/05 10:40 AM
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/10/05 10:54 AM
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Great photo Claude, do you happen to have a photo of Mr Bowie with one of my old time heroes? Mr Billy Idol.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/10/05 02:23 PM
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Did Bowie do an 'Elephant Man' pose just before he bowed - within the first 5 seconds of the LoM? performance?
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/10/05 02:46 PM
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I'm not quite sure Peter, I've looked at it over and over and get your point, there maybe is a slight lean to his stance? who knows, you know him, anythings possible.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/10/05 03:19 PM
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Now I know where i've heard that wonderful track "Wake Up" the BBC are currently using that music in their autumn schedule trailer.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Claude (big brother)
09/10/05 04:15 PM
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My question is: Why BOWIE sings LIFE ON MARS? with bandage and a black eye???
---------------------- Claude
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Shoes (wild eyed peoploid)
09/10/05 04:20 PM
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*heartfelt eye-smile*
"thank you" :-D
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dukewhite (stealing for that one good rush)
09/10/05 05:14 PM
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I think he was playing the part of the "wrong guy"
I am no longer an active member of Teenage Wildlife
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Claude (big brother)
09/10/05 05:18 PM
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Singing LIFE ON MARS? Ok, he's a stranger on this world.
---------------------- Claude
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/10/05 05:19 PM
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There is a lot of them about.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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Claude (big brother)
09/10/05 05:28 PM
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Yes, I know very well, Alan. I'm a stranger too!
---------------------- Claude
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SoulLoveChild (acolyte)
09/10/05 05:47 PM
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In the 80's I loathed Duran Duran as much as I loved Bowie so that pic of them together is quite odd for me!
Pabs, I can't thank you enough for posting those video links. I've only seen Wake Up so far and can't wait to see the other shortly. Cheers for your propmpt efforts, they are greatly appreciated!!
Get Bowie Back Downunder! GBBD 2005 !!!!
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/10/05 05:49 PM
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Well it's BillyPorter and Mist001 who did all the work, but I will pass on all the thanks to them 
I really think Wake up should be a single, that is a fabulous song.
Dignity is valuable, but our lives are valuable too.
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Claude (big brother)
09/10/05 06:03 PM
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In reply to:
I really think Wake up should be a single, that is a fabulous song.
I'm with you!
---------------------- Claude
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ocean (wild eyed peoploid)
09/10/05 09:46 PM
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THANK YOU!!!!
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Shoes (wild eyed peoploid)
09/10/05 09:53 PM
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>>I think he was playing the part of the "wrong guy"
I sorta can see the elephant man element, but more like his bow to the designer and prob his kid watching at home, and the 'weight' of the shoes.
For some reason what struck me was the similarity to alex in clockwork orange (werent his pants that short?) . also it looks like he's wearing stockings (which tons of stage musos do apparently to keep warm) but with DB a bit of a drag show... (!) gosh its good hearing mike garson eh!!
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Wunda (mortal with potential)
09/11/05 03:24 AM
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Hi Claude,
I think it's in reference to the meterological/sociological/political disaster stirred up by Hurricane Katrina - America's all battered and bruised. And the Oliver Twist/flood pants (as someone mentioned on this HUGE thread) are perhaps a reference to poverty, given many of the victims of the crisis were poor. ???
I am hugely excited by what he is doing now, I hope it's just the beginning! Not only does he act and look fantastic, his voice is sounding superb!
Thank you Pablo for posting the thread, I was moping round the house yesterday trying to imagine him doing Wake Up so was thrilled when a friend alerted me to your thread today!
Wunda
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tzina (mortal with potential)
09/11/05 03:58 AM
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that reminds me the Lodger cover... yes right, a bandage and a black eye that could make a new topic, i guess
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/11/05 07:56 AM
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In reply to:
I am hugely excited by what he is doing now, I hope it's just the beginning! Not only does he act and look fantastic, his voice is sounding superb!
Me too! I'm very encouraged by this appearance, plus he has admitted he is writing his next album, given this appearance and his voice and wit in brilliant condition, I am more than ever convinced Bowie is returning to the obscure.
Probably the new album will be ready for release next spring?
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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SoulLoveChild (acolyte)
09/11/05 09:12 AM
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2 Contamination: Attempted Rock Star Murder Hyber Bole/Cycle?? 
Get Bowie Back Downunder! GBBD 2005 !!!!
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Claude (big brother)
09/11/05 09:32 AM
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Tony, I'm waiting for TOY!
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/11/05 10:02 AM
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In reply to:
2 Contamination: Attempted Rock Star Murder Hyber Bole/Cycle?? 
I wish, has he ever gone back to a project? I don't think so, the idea is wonderful.
In reply to:
Tony, I'm waiting for TOY!
Arn't we all Claude, arn't we all? 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Sam_X (wild eyed peoploid)
09/11/05 03:01 PM
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In reply to:
arn't we all?
Not really.
"I can kill you!" ~ Claude
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/11/05 03:07 PM
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Wake up!.
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Claude (big brother)
09/11/05 03:09 PM
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Why not? The bonus tracks on HEATHEN are fantastic!
---------------------- Claude
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/11/05 03:15 PM
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In reply to:
Not really.
Why? not heavy enough for you, you prefer more Bowie the rocker than the singer of quiter more thoughtful songs from the 1960s.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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jabow (kook)
09/11/05 04:33 PM
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I think the toy tracks are crap. David did the right thing putting some of the tracks as b sides. I would much rather have a fantastic album like heathen over the toy tracks.
"You'll have to take me just the way that you find me."
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Claude (big brother)
09/11/05 04:51 PM
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In reply to:
a fantastic album like heathen
I'm with you, HEATHEN is a fantastic album!
---------------------- Claude
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Sam_X (wild eyed peoploid)
09/11/05 04:53 PM
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Few of those bonus tracks were fine & I like 'Afraid' but a whole RETRO album? Christ, no, no, no.
Plus I really hate the sixties.
"I can kill you!" ~ Claude
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Claude (big brother)
09/11/05 05:17 PM
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Safe is a fantastic Toy song!
---------------------- Claude
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/11/05 05:24 PM
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Safe isn't a toy song, it was recorded for the rugrats soundtrack but was subsequently not used, it was then rerecorded for Heathen but used as a b side. The only Heathen B sides from Toy are; You got a habit of leaving me, Baby loves that way, Shadowman, Conversation piece..
Afraid and Slip away were also from Toy.
The Toy songs are as follows;
Afraid: has appeared on Heathen.
Baby Loves That Way: released on the Japanese 'Slow Burn' (Sony SICP-162) and UK and EC 'Everyone Says 'Hi' CD single (ISO/Columbia 673134 5 and ISO/Columbia COL 673076 2).
Conversation Piece: appeared on the bonus disc of the 2CD edition of Heathen.
Hole In The Ground: remains unreleased.
I Dig Everything: remains unreleased.
In The Heat of the Morning: remains unreleased.
Karma Man: remains unreleased.
Let Me Sleep Beside You: remains unreleased.
London Boys, The: in July 2002, a 1'26" excerpt was issued as a "secret B-side" on a section of BowieNet dedicated to Heathen, followed in August by another 1'30" excerpt. As the latter is faded out, both pieces still do not cover the entire song.
Shadow Man: included on both EC editions of the 'Slow Burn' CD-single (ISO/Columbia COL 672744 1 and COL 672744 2) and on the UK 'Everyone Says 'Hi'' single (ISO/Columbia 673134 3).
Toy: this track was later offered as a free download (re-titled 'Your Turn To Drive') to customers who ordered their copy of Reality online from HMV.
Uncle Floyd: this song was re-recorded for Heathen as 'Slip Away'; the Toy version remains unreleased.
You've Got a Habit Of Leaving: featured on the EC 'Slow Burn' (ISO/Columbia COL 672744 2) and UK 'Everyone Says 'Hi' singles (ISO/Columbia 673134 5).
Wake up!.
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Claude (big brother)
09/11/05 05:34 PM
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Heathen is like a Toy!  I want another Heathen/Toy album!
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Claude (big brother)
09/11/05 05:55 PM
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I want this BOWIE!
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Claude (big brother)
09/11/05 06:24 PM
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http://www.saloca.stardust.nom.br/1996Rockpalast_AllTheYoung.wmv
---------------------- Claude
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Wunda (mortal with potential)
09/11/05 08:45 PM
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2 Contamination: Attempted Rock Star Murder Hyber Bole/Cycle??
Oh yeah, that would be really really awesome ;)
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OleanderWhoosh (kook)
09/11/05 10:39 PM
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Fantastic! Is there an mp3 available of the Life On Mars performance? Man, DB looked wonderful. I thought the black eye/bandaged hand was brilliant, very clever. Only Bowie...
Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!!
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/12/05 06:15 AM
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In reply to:
Plus I really hate the sixties.
I really love the sixties Bowie and many other artists, but you say you really hate the sixties? fair enough that's your prerogative and that I respect, but if you read Pablos post you'll see it's the sixties brought up to date kind of.
Toy could be released anytime if Bowie chose? It wouldn't necessarily be his next album, more a treasure we all ( most of us ) would love to own.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/12/05 07:34 AM
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In reply to:
Heathen is like a Toy! I want another Heathen/Toy album!
Anyone got an English translation please?
Wake up!.
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icarusboy (electric tomato)
09/12/05 07:46 AM
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Any news yet on when/whether this is gonna be shown on TV in the UK??
It was broadcast on C4 last time, so i'm guessing it will this time?
iccy
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/12/05 08:01 AM
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I think Channel four are showing it and the good news is, is that the rest of the world have the option of showing Five years as well.
Wake up!.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/12/05 03:35 PM
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In reply to:
that the rest of the world have the option of showing Five years as well.
Oh to be that lucky, I somehow think CH4 will opt for the version without "Five Years", don't ask me why? just put it down to british crap luck 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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FastChanges (crash course raver)
09/12/05 05:13 PM
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What about "Wood Jackson"?
Man said, "Now we will make God, and He will be unlike us."
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/12/05 05:21 PM
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Heathen outtake.
Wake up!.
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Claude (big brother)
09/12/05 05:27 PM
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In reply to:
Anyone got an English translation please?
I really love your sarcasm! 
---------------------- Claude
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Lorenzo (mortal with potential)
09/12/05 06:13 PM
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Claudio, you are right HEATHEN is a version of TOY.
------------------------ Lorenzo
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/12/05 06:19 PM
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Yes it is a version of Toy without the sixties remakes.
Wake up!.
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Lorenzo (mortal with potential)
09/12/05 06:34 PM
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I think Heathen sounds like a sixties album!
------------------------ Lorenzo
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Sam_X (wild eyed peoploid)
09/12/05 07:18 PM
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Yeah - Sunday, especially. You wouldn't know a sixties album if it came down on you, Lor.
"I can kill you!" ~ Claude
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Lorenzo (mortal with potential)
09/12/05 07:26 PM
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I really like the sixties sound! 
------------------------ Lorenzo
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BigFatDog (electric tomato)
09/13/05 04:03 AM
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On the subject of the sixties, how do gays have a 69er? Whoever was on the bottom would surely choke to death.
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"Hating Bowie in 1997 means hating everything overblown, theatrical, pretentious, pseudo-intellectual and jarringly progressive in the past 25 years of pop. In other words, everything great about pop. It also means hating yourself."
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FastChanges (crash course raver)
09/13/05 05:40 AM
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The only Bowie albums that have a sixties sound are the first two. And for a good reason.
Man said, "Now we will make God, and He will be unlike us."
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/13/05 07:55 AM
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In reply to:
how do gays have a 69er?
James really! use your imagination 
Heathen is his best album this century thus far.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Claude (big brother)
09/13/05 04:29 PM
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Lorenzo, Heathen is a revisited sixties sound.
---------------------- Claude
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/14/05 09:05 AM
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Arcade Fire on Letterman tonite?
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/14/05 09:29 AM
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In reply to:
Arcade Fire on Letterman tonite?
Great news, just have to wait for it to reach our tvs, there's a very strong rumour going round that Bowie will play live with the AF in central park this coming thursday? 
From Bowienet...
Tickets are still available, and any BowieNetters in the area may want to attend - not just because Arcade Fire are such a magical live experience, but also because you just never know who might be the band's special guest!
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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icarusboy (electric tomato)
09/14/05 12:21 PM
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Why does thast have to be in Central Park. Why not the park at the bottom of my road.....that'd be better.
iccy
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/15/05 01:04 AM
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What song did AF perform?
It's yet to air here on the west coast.
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/15/05 07:58 AM
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In reply to:
What song did AF perform?
It's yet to air here on the west coast.
You mean at the Fashion Rocks? apart from "Five Years" and "Wake up" both with Bowie, I have no idea what song they performed on their own or if they did even?
Love to be in Central Park tonight, I just know Bowie's gonna be there he can't resist performing now he's started again.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/15/05 08:02 AM
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They only performed with Bowie.
Wake up!.
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/15/05 08:12 AM
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In reply to:
They only performed with Bowie.
As I thought! Peter says this show hasn't been broadcast in Canada yet! I take it Peter knows the video's are available to view on here? maybe he wants to record it properly, still no air date for the UK as yet.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/15/05 08:28 AM
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I saw fashion Rocks last friday - just like the rest of america.
Arcade Fire played letterman last night and were great. They did their first video song(their titles are impossible to remember)
Letterman and shaffer were actually blown away themselves and remarked about it afterwards - the seemed genuinely impressed.
bfp
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/15/05 08:34 AM
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In reply to:
Arcade Fire played letterman last night and were great. They did their first video song(their titles are impossible to remember)
We do have Letterman here only I'm not sure when it airs? great to know they were in good form.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/15/05 09:49 AM
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He's in the best selling show...
One of the nicest surprises of David's appearance at Fashion Rocks last week, (09.08.2005 NEWS: BOWIE STEALS THE SHOW AT FASHION ROCKS) was the beautiful rendition of Life On Mars? Part of its beauty is the simplicity of the arrangement, in that it is one vocal and one piano... But, what a singer and what a pianist!
I asked Mike Garson what it meant to him to have been a part of the performance:
"To play on a concert grand piano with David alone was an incredible feeling. I found that experience to be a very spiritual moment. It's hard to say why, but I felt blessed and honored to be in that space with David for those precious five minutes at Radio City Music Hall. I'm still savoring the moment.
We had played there with The Spiders From Mars in February 1973 and did a band version of Life On Mars? then. I remember Mick Ronson's inspiring solo in the middle and I always strive to get a similar essence. But, it's hard, as the piano is no guitar!
I found myself not being the usual flamboyant Mike Garson, but more in a surrender and truly supportive role. Maybe as I get older the old saying less is more is really true. I know I was good at the opposite! (lol)"
There ya go. David Bowie's longest-serving sideman and he still gets as big a kick from performing with David now as he did back in 1972. Thanx for that Mike.
(c) Bowienet
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Emil (acolyte)
09/15/05 10:58 AM
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In reply to:
the beautiful rendition of Life On Mars? Part of its beauty is the simplicity of the arrangement, in that it is one vocal and one piano... But, what a singer and what a pianist!
Stop touching yourself, Adam! 
... and I mean that in a sexual way.
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Strawman (acolyte)
09/15/05 11:01 AM
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Re: MIKE GARSON TALKS ABOUT FASHION ROCKS
[re: Emil]
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Stop thinking about Adam touching himself, Emil.
Seriously though...
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Emil (acolyte)
09/15/05 11:08 AM
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Got me there.
Shit, my new sig almost spoiled the joke. 
... and I mean that in a sexual way.
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Pablo-Picasso (cracked actor)
09/15/05 11:42 AM
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Adam? Adam? who the F*** is Adam?
Wake up!.
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jump93 (electric tomato)
09/15/05 06:41 PM
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It's a shame about Your Turn To Drive not appearing on Heathen though, it is a great song
__________________________________________
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/16/05 06:04 PM
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Did anyone else see Arcade Fire on Letterman?
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/17/05 06:55 AM
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In reply to:
Did anyone else see Arcade Fire on Letterman?
Not yet and I'm not really sure what channel it would be on? we have NBC on satellite, so it's just a matter of wading through the EPG in the hope of finding it 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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bowiefanpeter (the voyeur)
09/17/05 09:27 AM
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Letterman is on CBS
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/17/05 11:02 AM
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In reply to:
Letterman is on CBS
Then it must be syndicated over here?
Thanks
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/23/05 09:39 AM
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Have you all read this interview ( thanks BWW ) with Bowie?
Bowie Interview
Bowie comes across as being rather flippant and not giving a toss about much, perhaps it was the interviewer?
What say you?
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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carsten (kook)
09/23/05 04:45 PM
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For some reason what struck me was the similarity to alex in clockwork orange
Kudos for spotting this - in the meantime I guess we all read the interview where it is mentioned that this was in fact A Clockwork Orange look. I had never the idea before that Life On Mars could be referring to Kubrick, but now I realize that with some fantasy one could read this into the song.
I just now watched the video of Life On Mars - and I found it most important that this is again a boy's look - continuing the theme from Reality's cover. Then on the other hand the schoolboy's look also reminds me of Celliers' younger brother in Furyo. So Bowie is continuing the kid phase of Nietzsche's Uebermensch transformation - which is again a reference to a Kubrick movie.
I like this self referentialism in Bowie's work - somehow this guy is saying the same thing again and again in different ways. And people are again and again surprised and fascinated. Not a lot can do that.
/Carsten
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/24/05 07:44 AM
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In reply to:
I like this self referentialism in Bowie's work - somehow this guy is saying the same thing again and again in different ways. And people are again and again surprised and fascinated. Not a lot can do that.
How brilliant that wonderful songwriting ability is, Bowie is so clever to be able to write songs that fit into any decade and still refer to trends in life.
In reply to:
Not a lot can do that.
I do not know of any other contempory artist with this abilty, do you?
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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gopherwartz (grinning soul)
09/26/05 03:42 AM
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Here's Arcade Fire performing Five Years the other night. No Bowie~
http://www.bkemp.com/AF/07 Five Years.mp3
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/26/05 07:38 AM
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Many thanks for that, I noticed they take the song a tad faster than Bowie's version? but It sounds good, even though I'm the type of fan who is not comfortable with other people covering his songs ( It's just how I am ) nice version.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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jump93 (electric tomato)
09/27/05 10:13 AM
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I like this a lot. The Arcade Fire are brilliant, I only got around to buying the album the other day but it is really good music.
__________________________________________ Bound Music
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Sam_X (wild eyed peoploid)
09/27/05 12:33 PM
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I'm the type of fan who is not comfortable with other people covering his songs
Cure's Young Americans must be a real nightmare for you, I guess.
"I can kill you!" ~ Claude
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/27/05 01:23 PM
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Cure's Young Americans must be a real nightmare for you, I guess.
I thought that was going to be the case when I first ventured into hearing it, I actually don't mind their version surprisingly enough, I think it's because of Robert Smith's trademark squealing, It actually suits the song very much, but I could live without it 
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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Shoes (wild eyed peoploid)
09/28/05 05:04 PM
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>Bowie comes across as being rather flippant and not giving a toss about much, perhaps it was the interviewer?
in that other recent interview on the BBC jazz program, he sounded different, in a way a bit shyer - not like that over-the-top attitude when he was interviewing for that art magazine!!! lol
i think it's interesting cos of the talk about costumes etc... i mean it was obviously short, maybe just emailed questions and he chose some?
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diamondogz74 (freecloud)
09/29/05 07:26 AM
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in that other recent interview on the BBC jazz program, he sounded different, in a way a bit shyer
Yes he did and what's more he even mentioned he was writing for his next album the Jazz radio interview was much more respectable and interesting, as for that lousy Fashion Rocks talking about lounging around in the Catskills mountains and wearing Dior clothes, that is not the Bowie I've come to know over 30 years.
London Bye Ta-Ta...
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