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Adam
(cricket menace)
06/29/09 00:16 AM
It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released [re: ]  

Let us recall, that Roxy Music had a massive hit with 'Jealous Guy' following the death of John Lennon.



The song became a number 1 hit as Lennon's own sales went through the roof - something the music world is experiencing again now for the recently deceased Michael Jackson (according to reports, his sales have increased 80 fold in the last few days).

Another Lennon tribute was the song 'All Those Years Ago' by George Harrison. This song was also a massive hit (reaching US #2) and perhaps considering who it featured and that it was an original song, it was deemed more appropriate than Roxy's blatant cover.



Over the course of many years since, other original songs created as Lennon tributes have appeared - some of them I can immediately think of include Neil Young (Peace and Love), Queen (Life is Real - Song for Lennon) and The Cranberries (I Just Shot John Lennon).

So now we come to the Bowie song 'Wood Jackson', a song seemingly written with no market place in mind and a song that may or may not be about Michael Jackson. Different to 'Jealous Guy', this is Bowie's original words and music and here we have his own feelings as they appeared some 7 years ago. It is also considered to be one of Bowie's most gorgeous songs of the last two decades and as we know too well, it was criminally relegated to bside obscurity.



The somber, organ intro seems even more fitting following the death of Jackson. Of course, it may not be about him at all but some lyrics fit very well including the title that evokes the changed physical appearance of Jackson, the references to critics and haters and a chorus that may reference the children he was fond of but ultimately caused his demise. All this with a subtlety and lack of finger pointing that only Bowie can really muster. Finally, Bowie says "Jackson took the beating every day .... given out .... passed away .... another way".

A video for the song could simply be a montage of Michael Jackson images. At the same time, it would also be fantastic to see some images of the current Bowie, stepping out from behind the curtain of a self imposed retirement from his own heart attack 5 years ago.

'Wood Jackson' has the capacity to be one of the most brilliant comebacks and tributes ever released. So go ahead Bowie/EMI/Columbia/ISO ... finally give this song the proper release it deserves!



Well, 100% Brit (and apparently proud of it) is being a bit over the top when he says 8 hours [of Outside outtakes]. I'd love to know the truth concerning what 100% git really has ~ Reeves Gabrels, 2003

schizophrenic
(acolyte)
06/29/09 03:01 AM
Flaccid new [re: Adam]  

In reply to:

A video for the song could simply be a montage of Michael Jackson images.


With all due respect, this is the kind of preposterously tacky "tribute" you see thrown up on youtube in five minutes, not the "brilliant comeback" of a major artist. I wouldn't want to see anyone do this, much less David Bowie.



Adam
(cricket menace)
06/29/09 03:53 AM
montage new [re: schizophrenic]  

Yes, there are far better ways to create a rock video. Unfortunately to do so, Bowie's comeback would need to be dual layered seeing he announced his retirement from the video form around Heathen (his lack of personal involvement or appearance in the 'New Killer Star' video seemed to be evidence of him keeping his word).

That said, things have changed since '02. 'Wood Jackson' is already written and recorded so in some respects, the hard part of the work is already done.


Well, 100% Brit (and apparently proud of it) is being a bit over the top when he says 8 hours [of Outside outtakes]. I'd love to know the truth concerning what 100% git really has ~ Reeves Gabrels, 2003

infidel
(cracked actor)
06/29/09 01:02 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Adam]  

Wood Jackson is a great Bowie song, however ...

Considering Bowie’s long absence from the music scene, to release this song right now as a tribute,
could be seen as a desperate attempt to cash in on MJ’s death.



Adam
(cricket menace)
06/29/09 02:10 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: infidel]  

Probably.

Still it doesn't seem to stop anyone else.

Elton John even danced on the grave of one dead media icon (Marilyn Monroe) to make way for the latest dead flavour of the month (Princess Di). Of course it worked - 'Goodbye England's Rose became the biggest hit single of all time.



Well, 100% Brit (and apparently proud of it) is being a bit over the top when he says 8 hours [of Outside outtakes]. I'd love to know the truth concerning what 100% git really has ~ Reeves Gabrels, 2003

Monkeyboy
(band intro)
06/29/09 02:50 PM
Re: montage new [re: Adam]  

In reply to:

things have changed since '02. 'Wood Jackson' is already written and recorded so in some respects, the hard part of the work is already done.


Well "someone" has clearly never seen the Dancing In the Street video, then!

I'd hate to see Daddy resort to this kind of pandering. Maybe if he were in the middle of, or had just come out of, a period of creative goodness he'd have the fan community capital to pull it off (see: Little Drummer Boy, Labyrinth, Omikron...) but doing it now would reek of desperation.

Maybe the way to do it would be to release a collection that was a shit-load of b-sides and unreleased material. Clean out the vaults, like the fans have been begging him to do since there were vaults to clean out. If one of the songs, say Wood Jackson, should just happen to be released as one of two or three singles - well, that's just the record company doing their thing. Or better yet, have Wood Jackson be the song that is mysteriously highlighted in all the promotional packages.

Or, hell, just have Daddy make an appearance on Conan in which Conan says "there's a song you recorded a few years ago that I think would be really interesting to hear in light of current events..." If it becomes a You Tube sensation, instant comeback.

I'm a genius.

"OK, I quit. You win. Last post. The end. Goodbye." - Stu, 1 October 2007

Forgotten_Boy
(crash course raver)
06/29/09 11:38 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Adam]  

I like Monkeyboy's idea the best, with the Conan/b-sides thing.

But let's be honest, there's more chance of Michael rising from the dead then this happening.

I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't it, and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me.

Monkeyboy
(band intro)
06/30/09 00:14 AM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Forgotten_Boy]  

In reply to:

But let's be honest, there's more chance of Michael rising from the dead then this happening.


How so?

"OK, I quit. You win. Last post. The end. Goodbye." - Stu, 1 October 2007

Forgotten_Boy
(crash course raver)
06/30/09 10:18 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Monkeyboy]  

Well he did it in Thriller, what makes you think he can't do it again?

If we were going to get a look into Daddy's vaults, we would have heard about it by now. It's not something that's going to be able to done within a month. There'd be remastering jobs, track selection etc etc, it'd be big news.

Plus one feels that with Neil Young recently raising the bar with his own Archive series, Daddy would be much less inclined to push something out half-arsed. Yes, he has done it before (DD30 et al), but ultimately that's been more the record company's folly, rather than his own.

Daddy's in the rather powerful position of owning, or at least part owning, everything he's put his name on since 1969. That's where the gold is. However, it's also a source of frustration as fans, because ultimately HE decides whether or not the material languishing in the vaults is up to a "releasable" standard, regardless of how long its been floating around (and garnering popularity) on the bootleg circuit. Case in point: the inital Ryko re-issues. Daddy vetoed the release of Shadowman, Rupert The Riley etc. despite some of these being remixed and remastered for inclusion in that series. Also, the reason the Mainman Rykos were packed heavier then the post-Mainman Rykos is cos Daddy didn't own (at the time) those masters, so the folks at Ryko did their own tape research, perhaps pulling stuff out that might of otherwise been left in the dark. That Low, Heroes and Lodger were filled out in the bonus material stakes by re-recordings and shitty remixes are no fault of Ryko's, but the fault of the Daddy. From Low onwards, Ryko had no access to the tapes, other than album masters and the bonus material Daddy himself selected.

To be honest, I don't believe there to be anywhere near as much in the vault as Daddy boasts there is, which could be part of the reason he is reluctant to expose them. But I also believe we're only gonna really know for sure when he shuffles off the mortal coil. It's a bitch, but we're still probably 10 years away (at least) from even getting a whiff of this stuff.

I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't it, and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me.

Chinchilla
(kook)
07/01/09 04:07 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Forgotten_Boy]  

Please stop calling him Daddy. It makes me sick.



schizophrenic
(acolyte)
07/01/09 04:47 PM
Slow on the uptake. new [re: Chinchilla]  

You've been here for how long now?



Monkeyboy
(band intro)
07/01/09 09:16 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Chinchilla]  

In reply to:

Please stop calling him Daddy. It makes me sick.


But...he's our daddy.

"OK, I quit. You win. Last post. The end. Goodbye." - Stu, 1 October 2007

Forgotten_Boy
(crash course raver)
07/01/09 09:27 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Chinchilla]  

In reply to:

Please stop calling him Daddy. It makes me sick.


Piss off back to WankerWorld, fag.

I used to be with it, but then they changed what "it" was. Now, what I'm with isn't it, and what's "it" seems weird and scary to me.

Mxy
(cracked actor)
07/02/09 02:17 AM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Forgotten_Boy]  

I could only imagine someone being disgusted by this if they're like in the middle of wanking to a Bowie photo in TW and then they see someone refer to him as "Daddy", and they think of their own dad (who's this old bald guy) and it kills their boner. Which begs the question: does anyone even wank to Bowie anymore?

YOUR TROUSERS HAVE SET FIRE TO THE ZEBRA.

Monkeyboy
(band intro)
07/02/09 02:46 AM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Mxy]  

In reply to:

does anyone even wank to Bowie anymore?


yes.

"OK, I quit. You win. Last post. The end. Goodbye." - Stu, 1 October 2007

tv eye
(acolyte)
07/02/09 05:13 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Monkeyboy]  

In reply to:

Please stop calling him Daddy. It makes me sick.

But...he's our daddy.


but doesn't that freak chooch...




oh nevermind.



boguswoman
(crash course raver)
07/03/09 05:31 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Chinchilla]  

In reply to:

Please stop calling him Daddy. It makes me sick.


To me, as a long been gone, never been a true member (although, I've always been a true member of Bowie world), it seems quite silly and unfounded, but it doesn't bother me (or make me sick, at that) at all.


''I like reality a lot! I'm hungry for it.'' - David Bowie

Monkeyboy
(band intro)
07/03/09 10:18 PM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: boguswoman]  

In reply to:

never been a true member (although, I've always been a true member of Bowie world)


Bowie world? Is that some new startup fan site? If so, they're probably assholes.

"OK, I quit. You win. Last post. The end. Goodbye." - Stu, 1 October 2007

Emil
(acolyte)
07/11/09 10:43 AM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-relea new [re: Chinchilla]  

In reply to:

Please stop calling him Daddy. It makes me sick.


Try calling him Sailor and see how long you survive on these boards.



It's LABRYNTH, idiot!

Monkeyboy
(band intro)
07/15/09 06:28 PM
toot! toot! new [re: Emil]  

In reply to:

Try calling him Sailor and see how long you survive on these boards.


Call him Sailor 3 times and he just might make an appearance!

"OK, I quit. You win. Last post. The end. Goodbye." - Stu, 1 October 2007

quadrophenia
(crash course raver)
07/18/09 07:27 AM
Re: It is imperative that WOOD JACKSON is re-released new [re: Adam]  

Dear Adam,

As one of the moderators of these forums, i would assume that you'd be more aware of which threads would belong along with all the rest of Bowie blabbering (to views and questions), and which are actually threads containing news on Mr D.Bowie.
You have recently posted at least 4 threads in the news section, threads which in fact contain no news what so ever on the man in question, if you intend on carrying on like this then perhaps you should re-name this section of the forums as 'pointless speculation', instead of carry the news.

Get a grip old man.

Baby, i've been breaking wind in your room again
Listen...


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