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EJSundayModerator
(acolyte)
03/26/04 10:09 AM
Steve Jones (Sex Pistols) / Chrissie Hynde  

“I saw Bowie recently, and he was tellin’ me he don’t get played on the radio no more,” says Jones. “So I did it for him.”

Steve Jones, after having played The Jean Genie, Drive In Saturday and Blue Jean at a live radio show in Los Angeles. LA Weekly, March 2004.


"What gives me optimism is that if this corporate monopolising continues then the same alternative means have to be taken again [referring to the punk days]. There's no reason why that can't come from me or David Bowie. There's no reason why we can't say 'we're artists' and we're not going to play your game anymore."

Chrissie Hynde on the same subject of senior artists not getting airplay anymore. tssmusic, September 1999

AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
03/27/04 08:56 AM
Steve Jones new [re: EJSunday]  

Iggy definitely listens to what Bowie says. He goes along with it. I think 'cause he's gettin' older and he doesn't know which way to swing. I know that he likes the harder edged stuff, but he's got a real hang-up about gettin' old. He thinks that if he does the more mellow stuff he'll be accepted. Blah, Blah, Blah did sell more records then Instinct, but that's maybe 'cause Bowie had something to do with it. But who knows, I don't care, I just worry about me own records.

Steve Jones, 1989, NEON Interview with Lorry Doll


AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
03/27/04 09:06 AM
Sid Vicious / John Lydon (Sex Pistols) new [re: Adam]  

Before the Pistols, (Sid Vicious) was a huge Bowie fan. He'd just spend his entire life trying to look like David Bowie. And he obviously didn't look anything like him. It was pointless, stupid and hilarious. And then he tried to look like a punk, and he got that wrong. Then he tried to live that New Your lifestyle, and that …mmm…was a temporary situation.

John Lydon, 1996, Interview with Alan Di Perna, Guitar World August.

ziggfried
(acolyte)
03/27/04 10:09 AM
John Lydon again new [re: Adam]  

"Hunk Dory I didn't mind. Actually, I think the's the best thing he's done is Diamond Dogs. I really liked it....I liked Roxy Music. They were good. Loony. Ferry singing his songs in the dinner jacket was completely berserk. And then he took his image seriously. Funny that. They all crack up over that. End up believing in their publicity themselves. Completely out of it. The same with Bowie doing his Ziggy bit and then changing and thinking “Oh, I am like that. A person of many roles."

John Lydon, NME, 23 December 1978

ziggfried
(acolyte)
03/27/04 10:25 AM
John Lydon & pals new [re: ziggfried]  

Excerpts from Rotten: No Irish, No Blacks, No Dogs by John Lydon (1994)

"Sid was an absolutely goofy kid with a David Bowie hairdo, dyed red at the top…He’d wear sandals in the snow with no socks when he wanted to show off his toenail varnish. It was a Dave Bowie thing."

John Lydon, p.59

"Sid was also a mad Bowie fan, obssessed with David Bowie beyond all reason."

John Gray, p.60

"Musically I was into Alice Cooper, and Hawkwind at the time. T-Rex gets in there, too. Bits of Bowie, but not too much. I didn’t find his stuff very interesting."

John Lydon, p.60

"If Bowie was important, he was important to Sid. I didn’t quite get it. Sid thought he was God. What was odd was that all the football hooligans would be deeply into Bowie. Bowie did bring all different sorts together. A Bowie concert would be quite an event. All walks of life were there. You’d have to go because the social aspect of it all was phenomenal. In London, I don’t think people took David Bowie’s gay thing seriously. It didn’t mean anything at all. But of course he had many years to practice his art. That’s what’s so unfair about the way punk was judged. We were judged in the same light as those who had been learning their craft for ten years. We weren’t given any breaks for being young."

John Lydon, p.69

"Soon the soul boys actually changed their fashion and mixed in a lot of Bowie influences and effeminacy. You started to get a crossover with the arty kids and the tougher soul boys era. Because their were so few people who dressed like that, they all went to the same clubs and you had this incredible intermingling. I think it was Bowie more than anybody that made punk acceptable to the soul element, much more than Roxy music. Bowie was the soul boys’ rock act. Everybody liked Bowie, and it was through him that punk became acceptable to the soul boys element."

Paul Stahl, p.218

"When I first started playing guitar at home, I didn’t fit in anywhere musically. All I wanted to play was “Rebel Rebel” and Velvet Underground songs. I got into the Velvet Underground in early 1973 through Lou Reed’s Transformer album, which I bought because David Bowie and Mick Ronson were on it. I did the same with Iggy Pop’s Raw Power…The big thing that made the early seventies so exciting was David Bowie and Roxy Music. Those were the people I emulated. But even they were still very slick musicians, and at the time I could never hope to play with them."

Marco Pirroni, p.221

"Oh, God. David Bowie mentions the Sex Pistols in a lyric on his Tin Machine album. Well, how strange for him! This is the man who had me thrown out backstage. I was at an Iggy Pop gig at Camden Palace in London, and I went backstage to say hello because I had met Iggy a year before. Mr. Bowie wanted me removed – thrown out, in fact. He wasn’t touring with Iggy, he was just backstage. I thought it was odd. It was Iggy’s gig, and Mr. Bowie got his personal bouncers to have me removed.

I’ve had an utter loathing for Bowie since then. What a pompous prat! A couple of years later, PiL were playing a nice nightclub in Switzerland. In trots Mr. Bowie. He made his way backstage. It’s two minutes before we go on. “Hi, I’m Dave Bowie, and this is my son. He’d like to meet you.” I don’t know anyone who could deal with this shit two minutes before going on. We were just going up the stairs, and I had to cope with this. I wasn’t rude to his son. His son had never done me any harm. But to him – blank. “Now if this was your gig and I came back, would you have me thrown out?” I walked away and left it at that. And I’ll bet he would have. Again and again."

John Lydon, pp.200-201

ziggfried
(acolyte)
03/27/04 10:38 AM
Lydon reveals whether or not he's a Bowie fan new [re: ziggfried]  

"Yeah, of course. Come on, I mean - the man, you know, he has delivered the goods, you know? And you can't take that away. He might be making a load of silliness at the moment but there's always the potential for that bit of genius, you know? That's what it is - you can't be pleasing everyone all the time with every record you release."

John Lydon, The Jonathan Ross Show, 23 March 2002

ziggfried
(acolyte)
03/27/04 10:47 AM
Bowie on Lydon & the Pistols new [re: ziggfried]  

“I was in the dressing room - wearing a suit, as it happened - and Johnny Rotten came in, turned to Iggy and said, 'Oo the fuck's that - your fucking manager or something ? Then he took a second look and said, Oh it's fucking Bowie in a fucking suit. I nearly melted through the floor! My street credibility's Madison Avenue.”

David Bowie (source unknown), 1977

“Whether it was my befuddled brain or because of the lack of impact of the English variety of punk in the US, the whole movement was virtually over by the time it lodged itself in my awareness. The few punk bands that I saw in Berlin struck me as being sort of post-1969 Iggy and it seemed like he’d already done that. Though I do regret not being around for the whole Pistols circus as that kind of entertainment would have done more for my depressed disposition than just about anything else I can think of..."

David Bowie, Uncut, April 2001

“John was obviously quite in awe of Jim [Iggy], but Sid was near catatonic and I felt very bad for him. He was so young and in such need of help.”

David Bowie, Uncut, April 2001

ziggfried
(acolyte)
04/20/04 01:02 PM
Bowie describes a PiL gig from October 1986 new [re: ziggfried]  

"[My son] really liked PiL, until he saw them, which was unfortunate. I thought the last album was great, but we went to a bad show. The whole thing was so tired. There was no enthusiasm in the band or the audience."

David Bowie, February 1987



Emil
(acolyte)
09/03/04 08:49 AM
Sex Pistols new [re: EJSunday]  

Steve Jones:
I was totally into music, Roxy Music and Bowie. I thought that musicians fell from the sky at that point, I didn't think anyone could be a musician.

John Lydon:
My mother loved Alice Cooper as much as I did. She had an extremely varied taste for everything from Irish folk music to T. Rex, to some early Bowie, lots of heavy metal that was around at the time, everything. Extremely catholic taste.

Paul Cook:
Steve [Jones] was a kind of cleptomaniac, really. I'm sure he would have been diagnosed as that, because he couldn't keep his hands in his pockets. Which was quite handy, really. We'd always know a way in around the back of Hammersmith Odeon, being in our local area. David Bowie was playing this Ziggy Farewell ting, and while the roadies was asleep in the front row, he'd be going around the stage picking all the microphones up. We had great guitars, amplifiers, great drumkits, PA system, everything. But you know, we couldn't play it properly.

The Filth and the Fury, directed by Julian Temple

ziggfried
(acolyte)
10/05/05 11:23 AM
Re: Steve Jones (Sex Pistols) / Chrissie Hynde new [re: EJSunday]  

"I met Bowie at an Iggy Pop gig. I thought he was Iggy's manager or something. 'Hunky Dory' was OK but he's just a prat really. He got into believing his own publicity. 'Oh, I'm a man of many parts.' He can't act either."

John Lydon (1978), cited in David Bowie: The Starzone Interviews (1985)




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