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isabelleguns
(grinning soul)
10/09/03 08:30 PM
I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE  

Basically I will organize this as best I can so that people can get an idea of what is going on. Basically I really wanted to get the Vancouver bowie show from Chissy and have had problems. For the record, I think that he demands were a little too high and I have been warned by NoControl not to go through with this but I had faith in another Bowie fan. Here is the original I said/She Said e-mails. I have made them into MS word attachments from my site so that I do not need to have to make a long post. This is to serve as a warning that this person is a dead beat trader and that others shouldn”¦t make the same mistake that I have done with this.

She had a high demanding trade from me listed below.

THIS IS MY E-MAIL TO HER:
I am very intersted in trading for the bowie show. I am huge Bowie fan
> and have been lookign for this show. I do not have much to trade but
> what I do have to trade can be seen on my site at the bottom of the
> page under "bootlegs" I also have some video boots with Bowie stuff.
>
> I am looking for the Bowie Vancouver 97 show




HER RESPONSE:
hey shila,
how are ya.
ok. i am willing to trade u bowie vancouver 97 only if ure willing to
make a big trade with me. so its more worthwhile for me and u.
there are about 8 things i like in ure list. in return i will give u
shows from toronto.
from u i like
1). bruce springsteen 2003
2). depeche mode 2001
3), depeche mode 98
4), eagles 2002
5). roxy music 2003
6). U2 1992
7). U2 97
8). U2 '01 ....................check below and tell me which u want

1). bowie 97 vancouver...this one checked
2). bruce springsteen toronto skydome sept 2002
3). Dandy warhols opera house toronto...2003
4). Roxy Music Molson amphitheater torontojuly 2003
5), Peter gabriel Air canada Center toronto 2002
6). Sex Pistols Molson Amphitheater toronto aug 2003
7). Iron maiden Molson amphitheater toronto aug 2003
8). Bryan Adams Molson Amphitheater toronto aug 30th 2003
9). Mariah carey Air canada center toronto aug 2003
10). BB King Molson Amphitheater aug toronto 2003
11 ). Jeff Beck aug molson amphitheater toronto aug 203
12.) bryan ferry frantic tour 2002-3 Hummingbird center toronto Nov 2002
these are the most recent shows i have.
let me know.
its better for me to trade more than one trade. saves time .
im from vancouver too ! i missed the place.
well let me know.
Chriss


What really pisses me off other than my promptness is that I was planning on surprising NoControl with some of these as an anniversary gift and tried to keep it quiet. Sorry hunny ƒ¼ but it was more than a trade for me.

In conclusion, don”¦t trade with this chicky. I have received many PVT messages from other members of this forum who are not happy and haven”¦t had a smoothful transaction. Names I will not mention here as it is up to them if they want to post.

In the event that the item is received by Monady, I will make a public apology to Chrissy but if I am getting over 3 PVT messages from others who are trying to trade from her, something smells fishy. I have had otherwise a wonderful trading experience from everyone else here on TWL and for that, thanks.




ermacowns
(grinning soul)
10/09/03 11:58 PM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: isabelleguns]  

Hum, I may have missed something up there but...I really don't see what's gone wrong with this trade.

If your idea of a bad trader is someone who asks for an 8-tape trade instead of just 1, well maybe it's time you should review your policy. Asking only for high trades is perfectly understandable. If you don't like it, just don't trade! But at least don't bad-mouth someone else for nothing.

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Smells like coffee in here!

tv eye
(stardust savant)
10/10/03 01:31 AM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: ermacowns]  

yup, i usually do no less than 6 or 8 cds at a time. it would be different if she wanted 8 cds for that one cd though.



isabelleguns
(grinning soul)
10/10/03 03:21 AM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: tv eye]  

She wanted 8 CD's of mine for 1 of hers. I trade a lot of found this a little un-usual at first but there is a first for everything. My other trades have gone awesome and frequent communication. I am just a little worried after being messaged by 3 members of TWL in PVT about this person. That is all. I just don't like to be ripped off. I only posted 'cause a lot of people have felt the same way. If it turns out that my CD (S) is on it's way, than she will get an apology.



NoControl
(kook)
10/10/03 03:27 AM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: tv eye]  

IG traded 8 boots for 1 Bowie recording, for fuck's sake! The point is that the Bowie show she was supposed to receive isn't in her possession yet. Even though IG and the other trader both live in Vancouver and it was supposed to be sent last week!!! What part of that don't you understand? She's obviously getting ripped off!

...don't tell god your plans...

isabelleguns
(grinning soul)
10/10/03 04:48 AM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: NoControl]  

We came to an agreement and she threw in some extras as in recordings but the point is, I haven't received anything yet and I have been PM'd a lot from other folks. She was going to trade me more than 1 after she was happy that I agreed.



russellmael
(wild eyed peoploid)
10/10/03 07:14 AM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: isabelleguns]  

1) Only trade like for like (1 hour of audio for 1 hour of audi etc) unless you know the person or can strike a deal that you feel fair

2) if you instigate the trade, explain that you feel more comfortable sending out on receipt

3) No one forces you to trade a swap you don't want. You are entitled to ask for more.

4) If the other person gets funny and it falls through, it doesn't matter.... Why are they getting funny?

5) With the artists mentioned here, they aren't exactly rare, so just move onto the next person who has them

6) You know her address.... do something about it.



ermacowns
(grinning soul)
10/10/03 11:41 AM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: NoControl]  

In reply to:

IG traded 8 boots for 1 Bowie recording, for fuck's sake!


It wasn't very clear. The way I read it, she only wanted to trade 8 for 8 instead of 1 for 1, and I saw nothing wrong with that.

If she did agree to an 8 for 1 trade well...too bad.

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Smells like coffee in here!

hallospacepint
(grinning soul)
10/10/03 01:48 PM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: isabelleguns]  

Proper bastards I tell thee!
I remember when I ordered some Bowie ear muffs, they cost me $24 from a Yokel. When I studied them closely I noticed that he'd stuck a picture of David Bowie eating an ice cream on them. Sick joke, it was a strawberry ice cream.

"...Do sit down sergeant, shocks are so much better absorbed with the knees bent!..."

isabelleguns
(grinning soul)
10/10/03 03:00 PM
Re: I THINK I HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF ON A BOWIE TRADE new [re: hallospacepint]  

LOL, that made me laugh thanks man. So basically in the end no matter who instigates the trade it is okay to rip someone off, nice, you guys are fucked in the head if you find ripping off someone acceptable, no matter who instigated the trade. Obviously you guys don't trade then or knowing trading rules etc. I wasn't posting to look for agreement or anything just pointing out to be careful not to trade with this person but now I am wondering about most of the people on here who are more fucked in the head to find this acceptable than Chrissy for ripping me off. What I find even more pathetic is the people who PVT Messaged me haven't even responded to the thread but continue to make PVT messages 'cause they are too pussy to say something, for that, they deserve to be ripped off and I am laughing at them but I don't see why I should let things like this slide especially since not only has she posted here, she posted on wonderworld looking for trades that she hasn't completed.





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