I was hoping that the Bowie experts here might help me out a bit. I'm trying to get my hands on all the different versions of The Hearts Filthy Lesson. There seem to be a few overlaps of different titles, and I haven't found sufficient explanations on any site. Also, I would appriciate it if some could help me get my hands on the mixes I'm missing. I've bolded the ones I'm looking for.

So, which ones of these mixes are the same?

Alt. Mix (aka NIN/Trent Reznor mix)
Bowie Mix
Simenon Mix
Good Karma Mix
Rubber Mix
Simple Text Mix
Filthy Mix

(I hope that made sense. It seems I'm not quite in my most coherent today.)

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Well the Bowie mix is the album version if thats any help.
And it is better than hunky dory

And the wrong words make you listen
In this criminal world
Remember it's true, loyalty is valuable
But our lives are valuable too

Thanks, that's one track off my list.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Ok here goes



Alt. Mix (aka NIN/Trent Reznor mix) 5:20 on both uk and us cd singles
Bowie Mix 4:57 AKA album version
Simenon Mix 5:01 on the us cd single
Good Karma Mix 5:00 on the 2nd Dead man walking cd
Rubber Mix not heard this but it is on the Japan Hallo spaceboy cds and is a different mix to the others
Simple Text Mix
Filthy Mix
The last three are all on the UK 12" side b, and as such they must all be different mixes to the above. They must also be different to the alt mix and bowie mix as they make up the a side of the aforementioned 12".

Hope this helps






And the wrong words make you listen
In this criminal world
Remember it's true, loyalty is valuable
But our lives are valuable too

Full details on http://www.illustrated-db-discography , go here for more info about the individual remixes and where to find them: http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/SongGH.htm#H (Scroll down a little).

There is an Argentinean promo cd that contains most of these mixes, some of them are only available on cd on that promo.

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Rubber Mix - not heard this but it is on the Japanese Hallo Spaceboy CDS and is a different mix to the others

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Seven minutes and forty-four seconds of the best Bowie remix ever. As much as I like the original, this version is so much better than Hunky Dory.

I Forgot To Change It Before

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Full details on http://www.illustrated-db-discography , go here for more info about the individual remixes and where to find them: http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/SongGH.htm#H (Scroll down a little).

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Thank you very much. It seems my skills of navigating the illusitrated discography need to be improved a bit.

Thanks to everyone else.

Now I'll have to try to find the Simenon/Good Karma mix and Filthy mix.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

I can try and provide you with the Simenon mix, if you want. I warn you though, it's not really that different from the album mix. I can also provide you with an amazing live version from Earthling In The City.

I'm a DUMBASS!

Do you have the HFL singles?

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I can try and provide you with the Simenon mix, if you want. I warn you though, it's not really that different from the album mix. I can also provide you with an amazing live version from Earthling In The City.

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Even if it isn't very different I'd still like to hear it... and I would be interested in hearing the EITC version as well. If you can provide them for me it would be great.

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Do you have the HFL singles?

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Nope. Apart from 'hours...' era, Bowie CD singles are practically impossible to find in Finland.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

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Even if it isn't very different I'd still like to hear it... and I would be interested in hearing the EITC version as well. If you can provide them for me it would be great.

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I'll see what I can do. If I can't provide them, however, I still suggest you seek the live version as it is, IMO, even better than the original.



I'm a DUMBASS!

Mmkay. I'm PMing you.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

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Well the Bowie mix is the album version if thats any help.

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Thanks, eventually a mystery is solved. I have sat skipping CDs back and forth, trying to hear even the slightest audible difference between the two versions without success.

Dog 1: Humans aren't that stupid after all.
Dog 2: They invented cheese spread.

I must admit, not though I have gone to such extremes, to finding most of the HFL mixes similar.

And the wrong words make you listen
In this criminal world
Remember it's true, loyalty is valuable
But our lives are valuable too

The Rubber mix is, of course, distinctive and if you've heard it you know it and you know why it's called that. Still pretty good.

Dog 1: Humans aren't that stupid after all.
Dog 2: They invented cheese spread.

I am scouring eBay all the time for thay one

And the wrong words make you listen
In this criminal world
Remember it's true, loyalty is valuable
But our lives are valuable too

The three mixes I've heard (NIN/Alt, Rubber and Simple Text) all sound quite distinctive to me.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

As did the Good Karma mix, now that I've heard it.

Still looking for the Filthy Mix.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Does one of the mixes feature Ice Cube?

Isn't that just I'm afraid with Americans?

And the wrong words make you listen
In this criminal world
Remember it's true, loyalty is valuable
But our lives are valuable too

Ah, I knew one of the 90s tracks featured a rap from him. What's the name of the mix?

It is V3 on the american single.

And the wrong words make you listen
In this criminal world
Remember it's true, loyalty is valuable
But our lives are valuable too

Of course, there was no other release than the american (and canadian ones that were identical)...

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Afraid of Americans was only released America? Is this irony intentional?

I always wondered how it was reviewed.


And the wrong words make you listen
In this criminal world
Remember it's true, loyalty is valuable
But our lives are valuable too

All I know is that it was a hit in Canada.

KArt | Project Michelangelo | LiveJournal

Can anyone point me to a good source for the Rubber Mix? I'd love to hear that one. :D Thanxs

You can try this; I'm pretty sure that's where I got it from but results aren't guaranteed. Just make sure to check the length before you start a download - it should be about 7:42.

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